Black republicans...who are they really?

[JQPublic1]

Being bright doesn't give you the power to overcome large scale economic factors, like the vast supply of people just like you wiling to do the job cheaply.

But thanks for admitting that they are taking American jobs.

There you go off on a tangent again. Congress is giving the H-1B visa workers the power to displace less qualified native born American workers. You say it because foreign H1-1B employees are cheaper and I beg to differ.That is the key issue you and I have been hashing around for a while now. Before we continue let's settle this by putting linked facts on the table. I'll start with this:

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Is H1B visa bad for the USA? - Quora

Actually, H1B visas do harm Americans.
New H-1B bill will 'help destroy' U.S. tech workforce

New Data Show How Firms Like Infosys and Tata Abuse the H-1B Program

Lower wages

The principal reason that firms use H-1Bs to replace American workers is because H-1B nonimmigrant workers are much cheaper than locally recruited and hired U.S. workers. As Table 1 shows, Infosys and Tata pay very low wages to their H-1B workers. The average wage for an H-1B employee at Infosys in FY13 was $70,882 and for Tata it was $65,565. Compare this to the average wage of a Computer Systems Analyst in Rosemead, CA (where SCE is located), which is $91,990 (according to the U.S. Department of Labor). That means Infosys and Tata save well over $20,000 per worker per year, by hiring an H-1B instead of a local U.S. worker earning the average wage. But at SCE specifically, the wage savings are much greater. SCE recently commissioned a consulting firm, Aon-Hewitt, to conduct a compensation study, which showed that SCE’s IT specialists were earning an average annual base pay of $110,446. That means Tata and Infosys are getting a 36 to 41 percent savings on labor costs—or saving about $40,000 to $45,000 per worker per year.



They aren't bringing people in that are more skilled. There is no shortage in the US. That myth was debunked several years ago.


Incidently this is why it is absolutely necessary to keep Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and whites divided. So, we can all fight over the scraps at the bottom.

SO what does all of this have to do with Black Republicans? If you have a need for further discussion on this topic try one of these threads:
U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 workers

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I don't need those threads. I have posted in many. But, yeah it has everything to do with it.
Everything. Gates Clinton Foundation.

Gates to Congress: Microsoft needs more H-1B visas
Bill Gates makes the (bogus) case for more (cheap) foreign labor


Melinda Gates

Repubs:
Sessions criticizes Gates's call for visas amid Microsoft layoffs

Repubs acknowledging dillema:
Republicans Could Win Votes by Opposing Guest-Worker Programs, by Fred Bauer, National Review

Hillary In Favor of More H1B Visas:

Hillary Clinton made $3.2 million from the tech sector. Now she’s hitting it up for campaign dollars.

I didn't know Bill Gates was a Black Republican. He must be for you to be referencing him here in this op!

 

[BlackAsCoal]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Scott McClellan wrote a great book pretty much admitting what a bunch of neo cons bush/Chaney were.

But remember bush/Chaney are exactly what the GOP is if given the power. Pollute, push religious laws, start wars, tax breaks to the rich, stop funding social programs, cheap labor, send good jobs overseas

Government doesn't send jobs overseas, free American businesses do.

And I love how your side supported over taxation on businesses, overpowering unions, pages and pages of regulations on businesses, Commie Care, and when they leave, you blame Republicans.

As for Bush and taxation, he gave nearly everybody a tax break. Even sent some of our taxes back through the mail. I know I got two of those checks. And the last time the Republicans addressed taxes for the rich in this country, they increased the corporate tax rate, the capital gains tax rate, and anybody making over 450 K per year.

As for pollution, guess what President is responsible for us not being able to buy regular light bulbs today? That's right, all those energy saving bulbs you are forced to buy today are because of GW. And guess who greatly lowered sulfur content in diesel fuel? If you guessed GW, you did good once again. And guess which Congress (and President) gave energy companies a tax break so they could invest in renewable energy? I'm sure you know the answer.

So all these stereotypes of Republicans are what Democrat politicians love to lie about. So don't listen to them, because Democrats are born liars; it's in their blood.

Diesel Emissions Reduction Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Disir]

Being bright doesn't give you the power to overcome large scale economic factors, like the vast supply of people just like you wiling to do the job cheaply.

But thanks for admitting that they are taking American jobs.

There you go off on a tangent again. Congress is giving the H-1B visa workers the power to displace less qualified native born American workers. You say it because foreign H1-1B employees are cheaper and I beg to differ.That is the key issue you and I have been hashing around for a while now. Before we continue let's settle this by putting linked facts on the table. I'll start with this:

View attachment 79795

Is H1B visa bad for the USA? - Quora

Actually, H1B visas do harm Americans.
New H-1B bill will 'help destroy' U.S. tech workforce

New Data Show How Firms Like Infosys and Tata Abuse the H-1B Program

Lower wages

The principal reason that firms use H-1Bs to replace American workers is because H-1B nonimmigrant workers are much cheaper than locally recruited and hired U.S. workers. As Table 1 shows, Infosys and Tata pay very low wages to their H-1B workers. The average wage for an H-1B employee at Infosys in FY13 was $70,882 and for Tata it was $65,565. Compare this to the average wage of a Computer Systems Analyst in Rosemead, CA (where SCE is located), which is $91,990 (according to the U.S. Department of Labor). That means Infosys and Tata save well over $20,000 per worker per year, by hiring an H-1B instead of a local U.S. worker earning the average wage. But at SCE specifically, the wage savings are much greater. SCE recently commissioned a consulting firm, Aon-Hewitt, to conduct a compensation study, which showed that SCE’s IT specialists were earning an average annual base pay of $110,446. That means Tata and Infosys are getting a 36 to 41 percent savings on labor costs—or saving about $40,000 to $45,000 per worker per year.



They aren't bringing people in that are more skilled. There is no shortage in the US. That myth was debunked several years ago.


Incidently this is why it is absolutely necessary to keep Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and whites divided. So, we can all fight over the scraps at the bottom.

SO what does all of this have to do with Black Republicans? If you have a need for further discussion on this topic try one of these threads:
U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 workers

View attachment 79864

I don't need those threads. I have posted in many. But, yeah it has everything to do with it.
Everything. Gates Clinton Foundation.

Gates to Congress: Microsoft needs more H-1B visas
Bill Gates makes the (bogus) case for more (cheap) foreign labor


Melinda Gates

Repubs:
Sessions criticizes Gates's call for visas amid Microsoft layoffs

Repubs acknowledging dillema:
Republicans Could Win Votes by Opposing Guest-Worker Programs, by Fred Bauer, National Review

Hillary In Favor of More H1B Visas:

Hillary Clinton made $3.2 million from the tech sector. Now she’s hitting it up for campaign dollars.

I didn't know Bill Gates was a Black Republican. He must be for you to be referencing him here in this op!

You're embarrassed. I understand. It happens.

 

[Disir]

Scott McClellan wrote a great book pretty much admitting what a bunch of neo cons bush/Chaney were.

But remember bush/Chaney are exactly what the GOP is if given the power. Pollute, push religious laws, start wars, tax breaks to the rich, stop funding social programs, cheap labor, send good jobs overseas

Government doesn't send jobs overseas, free American businesses do.

And I love how your side supported over taxation on businesses, overpowering unions, pages and pages of regulations on businesses, Commie Care, and when they leave, you blame Republicans.

As for Bush and taxation, he gave nearly everybody a tax break. Even sent some of our taxes back through the mail. I know I got two of those checks. And the last time the Republicans addressed taxes for the rich in this country, they increased the corporate tax rate, the capital gains tax rate, and anybody making over 450 K per year.

As for pollution, guess what President is responsible for us not being able to buy regular light bulbs today? That's right, all those energy saving bulbs you are forced to buy today are because of GW. And guess who greatly lowered sulfur content in diesel fuel? If you guessed GW, you did good once again. And guess which Congress (and President) gave energy companies a tax break so they could invest in renewable energy? I'm sure you know the answer.

So all these stereotypes of Republicans are what Democrat politicians love to lie about. So don't listen to them, because Democrats are born liars; it's in their blood.

Diesel Emissions Reduction Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They leave so they can pay $2 an hour wages and in many instances pollute but it's the wages primarily. There is nothing that can compete with those wages. They want to retain all of the rights that come with the US.

 

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[JoeB131]

Stupid is believing that it's the 1% who are responsible for government goodies. Guess what? It's your liberal politicians responsible for that.

Without these government handouts, people might work more hours, do something to make themselves worth more money, get two jobs if that's what it takes, have some pride in supporting themselves with their own money instead of mine.

Yeah, here's the thing, guy. Once more fucking time, we have Adjunct professors on food stamps, we have airline pilots selling their blood plasma. No one should HAVE to work a second job to make ends meet. The fact they have to because the 1% are too fucking greedy is a shame on our country.

It's like Rush Limbaugh said so many times: If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't.

The fact you think a drug addled closeted homosexual is a good source for advice is laughable.

Oh, did you know Limbaugh collected Unemployment Insurance.

Unemployment and Rush Limbaugh

yup. But that was White people Welfare. SO it's okay.

Working in industry, we have customers that use temporary services for their workforce. When they need the temps to work more hours than expected, they refuse. Why? Because working more hours means bringing in more money, and bringing in more money means a slash in food stamps and welfare.

So let me get this straight. You want these people you won't even offer a full time job to work extra hours one week, and as a result they will lose their medical insurance (because you won't offer it to them) and other benefits, and you wonder why they aren't that keen on doing that? Really? Really?

And I don't need to retell the story of that couple I evicted from one of my apartments because they kept falling further and further behind on rent. I suggested that the woman get a part-time job on the weekends when her boyfriend was home so he could watch the kids. That way they could keep their apartment and get caught up on rent. She didn't consider it. Why? Because income would screw up her food stamp benefits. So I ended up throwing their worthless asses out on the street.

Hey, did you mention what a good Christian you are when you did that? So let me get this straight, you are rich enough to own properties you can throw poor people out of, but you whine that your employer won't provide health insurance anymore.

When you say Social Security, I think of a faulty government program that people are forced to pay into and (if they live long enough) take out later on. I think the same of Unemployment since your salary is based on what your employer has to pay on your behalf in costs and benefits. When I think of food stamps, I think of people milking a system based on what I see in my very own grocery store. I see what they buy with food stamps, see what they buy with their own cash, and see what kind of car they load those groceries in. I see how many kids they bring to the store with them.

But yet you only call for ending one of them. The one poor people of color use.

 

[JoeB131]

They are both disasters. It's just that we have to decide which one is going to be less of a disaster.

You said that Trump is too mentally unstable to have access to the red button. But Hillary imagines people shooting at her when she gets off of airplanes. She has regular conversations with dead people. Ask yourself which one is truly unstable.

So you have to go over a 20 years of public statements to find out of context statements by Hillary that make her look bad, but you ignore all the crazy shit Trump does every day.

Every. Fucking. Day.

Yesterday he announced that Mike Tyson and Mike Ditka were speaking at the GOP convention (because actually Republican politicians don't want to even go to it, much less speak at it.) Tyson and Ditka had no idea what he was talking about.

 

[Crixus]

Stupid is believing that it's the 1% who are responsible for government goodies. Guess what? It's your liberal politicians responsible for that.

Without these government handouts, people might work more hours, do something to make themselves worth more money, get two jobs if that's what it takes, have some pride in supporting themselves with their own money instead of mine.

Yeah, here's the thing, guy. Once more fucking time, we have Adjunct professors on food stamps, we have airline pilots selling their blood plasma. No one should HAVE to work a second job to make ends meet. The fact they have to because the 1% are too fucking greedy is a shame on our country.

It's like Rush Limbaugh said so many times: If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't.

The fact you think a drug addled closeted homosexual is a good source for advice is laughable.

Oh, did you know Limbaugh collected Unemployment Insurance.

Unemployment and Rush Limbaugh

yup. But that was White people Welfare. SO it's okay.

Working in industry, we have customers that use temporary services for their workforce. When they need the temps to work more hours than expected, they refuse. Why? Because working more hours means bringing in more money, and bringing in more money means a slash in food stamps and welfare.

So let me get this straight. You want these people you won't even offer a full time job to work extra hours one week, and as a result they will lose their medical insurance (because you won't offer it to them) and other benefits, and you wonder why they aren't that keen on doing that? Really? Really?

And I don't need to retell the story of that couple I evicted from one of my apartments because they kept falling further and further behind on rent. I suggested that the woman get a part-time job on the weekends when her boyfriend was home so he could watch the kids. That way they could keep their apartment and get caught up on rent. She didn't consider it. Why? Because income would screw up her food stamp benefits. So I ended up throwing their worthless asses out on the street.

Hey, did you mention what a good Christian you are when you did that? So let me get this straight, you are rich enough to own properties you can throw poor people out of, but you whine that your employer won't provide health insurance anymore.

When you say Social Security, I think of a faulty government program that people are forced to pay into and (if they live long enough) take out later on. I think the same of Unemployment since your salary is based on what your employer has to pay on your behalf in costs and benefits. When I think of food stamps, I think of people milking a system based on what I see in my very own grocery store. I see what they buy with food stamps, see what they buy with their own cash, and see what kind of car they load those groceries in. I see how many kids they bring to the store with them.

But yet you only call for ending one of them. The one poor people of color use.

That was gay on to many levels to go point by point, but the unemployment insurance is just that, INSURANCE, not an income. Your adjunct professors should have made themselves more valuble. No one really cares if they are unemployed. Matter of fact, we may be better off without them. And with the poor people of color you say you love, they would make much more money if they got a job and worked, but you libs keep them on the plantation by threatoning to pull their meal ticket. Then you pretend you care about their wellbeing. Enlighten us there joederp, how many folks of color did you libs let shoot eachother last weekend ?

 

[Crixus]

Thing is, democrats can't exist without hoodrats and white guilt. They will never encourage the hoodrats to better them selves because once they see what their paycheck k looks like after one 50 hour work week their beloved hoodrats all of a sudden will e republicans.

 

[JoeB131]

That was gay on to many levels to go point by point, but the unemployment insurance is just that, INSURANCE, not an income.

Exactly. It's to keep the engineer from taking a job at WalMart. It's to preserve the skills that they have acquired. So, yes, it is insurance.

Your adjunct professors should have made themselves more valuble. No one really cares if they are unemployed. Matter of fact, we may be better off without them.

Because you don't need you no learning, Cleetus! You've done fine without them.

Reality- if the universities are charging kids $60,000 for a piece of paper, then you really should pay the people who provide that a living wage.

And with the poor people of color you say you love, they would make much more money if they got a job and worked, but you libs keep them on the plantation by threatoning to pull their meal ticket.

Again- 40% of families on food stamps have at least one family member who holds a job. McDonald's and WalMart show their employees how to apply for food stamps. The idea if they just work a few more hours (which employers won't give them because they might have to provide health insurance) at their minimum wage jobs will make all the difference is just foolish.

Then you pretend you care about their wellbeing. Enlighten us there joederp, how many folks of color did you libs let shoot eachother last weekend ?

We aren't the ones who flooded the streets with guns. That would be you guys.

Thing is, democrats can't exist without hoodrats and white guilt. They will never encourage the hoodrats to better them selves because once they see what their paycheck k looks like after one 50 hour work week their beloved hoodrats all of a sudden will e republicans.

Right. A paycheck at minimum wage with 50 hours. Let's do the math on that.

50 hours at 7.25 minimum wage comes out to $398.75. After you take out taxes, it comes out to $319.00.

Yeah, that wouldn't get me to vote GOP any time soon. It might make we want to key the boss' Lexus.

 

[Disir]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

 

[JoeB131]

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

the problem is you think that the 'detrimental' policies are a cause, not a symptom.

personally, I would love it if NO ONE collected welfare because everyone had a job that put food on the table and a roof over their heads.

That's not the society we live in and the rich don't want to live in that society.

 

[Esmeralda]

IT is not the conservatives who look at color as much as libs do.

LMAO

 

[BlackAsCoal]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

 

[Disir]

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

the problem is you think that the 'detrimental' policies are a cause, not a symptom.

personally, I would love it if NO ONE collected welfare because everyone had a job that put food on the table and a roof over their heads.

That's not the society we live in and the rich don't want to live in that society.

The problem is you refuse to take the same group of people to task. That's the problem.

 

[Disir]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

 

[Disir]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

In the last 9 presidential elections, republicans have averaged a whopping 8.2% of the black vote.

There are your 'black republicans' .. all 8% of them.

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.