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LBJ was whatever got him ahead. Just like Trump.No, blacks remember quite well it was right wing reactionaries who were responsible.Blacks have a very short memory on who was responsible for Jim Crow laws
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Yeah, LBJ was a right wing reactionary. LMAO
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That has nothing to do with it.As I mentioned earlier, none of the Democratic candidates were from the South.Again which Democrat was more conservative than the republican in a presidential election?
In fact, John Nance Garner came the closest to snagging the nomination in 1940. He was from Texas, and was very conservative. He was FDR's vice president.
Garner was sick of FDR's liberal policies and rose to challenge him in 1940. He nearly pulled it off. But the stigma of being from the racist South did him in.
Because he challenged FDR, he was replaced as vice president by Henry Wallace.
That has nothing to do with it.As I mentioned earlier, none of the Democratic candidates were from the South.Again which Democrat was more conservative than the republican in a presidential election?
In fact, John Nance Garner came the closest to snagging the nomination in 1940. He was from Texas, and was very conservative. He was FDR's vice president.
Garner was sick of FDR's liberal policies and rose to challenge him in 1940. He nearly pulled it off. But the stigma of being from the racist South did him in.
Because he challenged FDR, he was replaced as vice president by Henry Wallace.
you said the republicans were more liberal,
So what.Did you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
Fair critique, I’m not saying that none could vote. There were a small percentage that could vote and a large percentage restricted by law, which is why critiquing their voting history during that time seems both tone deaf and disingenuous as they didn’t exactly have a fair and free voice during that time. That very significant fact seems glossed over to make a cheap dig on blacks and the democrats.well expect now you're kinda playing games so you can say trump said something stupid.I get it we all mess up at times... the difference between stating the wrong number and criticizing the way an oppressed race was voting is rather largeDid you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
Which of Obama's 57 states did he say that in?
on paper have blacks had the right to vote since 1870?
yes.
was trump correct in what he said?
yes.
has reality made exercising that amendment difficult?
yes.
1965 was done to ensure that the 1870 actions were enforced.
were ALL BLACKS denied voting between 1870 to 1965? you seem to be saying, in order to bash trump, that no black person was legally able to vote before 1965.
that wouldn't be very accurate from what i can tell.
We see racist posts on this forum on a daily basis from far right wingers, yet you NEVER see a person claiming to be a right winger slapping them down for it.
And that's all you need to know about which party is the racist party today, boys and girls.
The blacks who they constantly attack for being stupid are smarter than these idiots who cling desperately to the pathetic meme about LBJ Democrats from over half a century ago.
The blacks know which party hates them today, and so does everyone else.
if true, it's not careless is it?Fair critique, I’m not saying that none could vote. There were a small percentage that could vote and a large percentage restricted by law, which is why critiquing their voting history during that time seems both tone deaf and disingenuous as they didn’t exactly have a fair and free voice during that time. That very significant fact seems glossed over to make a cheap dig on blacks and the democrats.well expect now you're kinda playing games so you can say trump said something stupid.I get it we all mess up at times... the difference between stating the wrong number and criticizing the way an oppressed race was voting is rather largeDid you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
Which of Obama's 57 states did he say that in?
on paper have blacks had the right to vote since 1870?
yes.
was trump correct in what he said?
yes.
has reality made exercising that amendment difficult?
yes.
1965 was done to ensure that the 1870 actions were enforced.
were ALL BLACKS denied voting between 1870 to 1965? you seem to be saying, in order to bash trump, that no black person was legally able to vote before 1965.
that wouldn't be very accurate from what i can tell.
I hear a sound bite from Trumps rally that made me laugh and shake my head at how oblivious he is about certain issues and I posted about it. In a different thread I also gave Trump kudos for the medical bill he signed yesterday, FYI.
It is just very interesting to me that in the heat of all this controversy with race going on that careless statements like these get made.
Yeah, I should have taken more time with that statement. I’ve since explained itWell they didn’t receive the right to vote until 1965 so it would be sometime after that... right?When did they start voting democrat?Did you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
#Clueless!!
ah shit, there you go educating a poor leftist again.You're not serious...…Well they didn’t receive the right to vote until 1965 so it would be sometime after that... right?When did they start voting democrat?Did you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
The 15th amendment gives them the right, passed by republicans in the 1860s.
Yeah, I should have taken more time with that statement. I’ve since explained itWell they didn’t receive the right to vote until 1965 so it would be sometime after that... right?When did they start voting democrat?Did you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
#Clueless!!
only a leftist no apology, just an aw-shit, look what I did. So kill the thread right?
couldn't the controversy be that we nitpick so much that we find things to get mad at cause we expect to be mad at someone?
Funny you bring up the super predators. If your interpret Clinton’s statement to be towards all blacks then you’d have to consider Trumps “rapists and murders” and “animals” statement to be directed towards all Mexicans and immigrants, right? Is that the case?All this bullshit about LJB and Klan Democrats from over 50 years ago is a giant smokescreen attempting to conceal the fact that it is the GOP today which contains the bulk of the racists.
Everyone knows this.
Who called black "super predators"?
Who called Latinos "needy"?
no it's a lie. the thread should be shut down. I thought this place had morals. Lying hacks to make a point isn't allowed.You are wrong, that's the point. It is propagandaI think most republicans were more Liberal than their democratic counter parts back in Lincoln’s day. Southern democrats were absolutely conservative during Jim Crow. Those roles flip flopped during the mid 1900sWrong, we've been over thisMaybe not republicans but yes conservatives. Efforts to free slaves and progress their rights was a Liberal effort by definition. And the actions by the southern states, and yes southern Democrats, and Jim Crow laws were not a result of the way blacks were voting. Like I said a few posts ago, that is completely tone deafWrong man, blacks voted in the inbetween years, if they could jump through the hoops, and who put up those barriers? hint:NOT conservative republicansThat amendment was in 1870 not 1860 and a few years after it passed blacks were striped of their citizenship rights and rights to vote by southern state governments. It wasn’t until the civil rights act of 1965 that banned those discriminatory laws. But who cares about history, right?
there were conservatives in lincolns time. Watch the movie
if you don't like that
then what did Horace Greeley run as and what year? Who did he run against? What party were they?
And of course let me know the last democrat more conservative than the republican for President?
Again which Democrat was more conservative than the republican in a presidential election?
Guys they talked about the republicans as a conservative party during mckinley
who was that conservative faction? Rockerfeller, Carnegie and all the captains of industry, but it was there during Lincolns time.
The LBJ rule. And why Bill Cosby was arrested.all this support and the Democrats haven't done one fkn thing for them
Dems did three things for blacks:
Public schools
Public housing
Replaced the male head of household with a government check
Keeps blacks in a cycle of dependence and poverty so they mush vote for the democrats
I did some digging and found that there were approx 10 million blacks living in America in 1912 (year of Woodrow’s election) and at that time there were about 600k who were eligable to vote. Couldn’t find stats for how many actually voted or who they voted for.We playing word games now? Do you not recognize the barriers that were in place from 1870s - 1965. Do you not understand my point or do I need to spell it out for you?Good for you, I’m sure you’d also be cheering him on if you heard him say that at his rally. That shit just makes me laugh in a sad kind of way. #patheticBlacks have been eligible to vote for 148 years, I'm sure some have been voting for commiecrats during that time.
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I've got the 15th Amendment, passed in Feb 1870, you?
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No word games, you tried to deride me for pointing out a fact. Blacks have a very short memory on who was responsible for Jim Crow laws, and who pushed the VRA across the finish line in spite of commiecrat opposition. Hell racist Woodrow Wilson got massive black support for his time, it was only about 7% but that was big back then. BTW that was the 1912 election, more than 100 years ago.
President Woodrow Wilson: Pro-Segregationist Democrat--African-Americans & the Presidency
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technically there have been blacks voting for Dems for over 100 years, so that part is correct. But the entire statement is completely tone deaf and irresponsible considering the state of our union and the circumstances surrounding those votes until 1965. To reference that time period as a critique to their voting record for a political demonization sound bite is absurd in my opinion.so trump was correct.I did some digging and found that there were approx 10 million blacks living in America in 1912 (year of Woodrow’s election) and at that time there were about 600k who were elibable to vote. Couldn’t find stats for how many actually voted or who they voted for.We playing word games now? Do you not recognize the barriers that were in place from 1870s - 1965. Do you not understand my point or do I need to spell it out for you?Good for you, I’m sure you’d also be cheering him on if you heard him say that at his rally. That shit just makes me laugh in a sad kind of way. #pathetic
I've got the 15th Amendment, passed in Feb 1870, you?
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No word games, you tried to deride me for pointing out a fact. Blacks have a very short memory on who was responsible for Jim Crow laws, and who pushed the VRA across the finish line in spite of commiecrat opposition. Hell racist Woodrow Wilson got massive black support for his time, it was only about 7% but that was big back then. BTW that was the 1912 election, more than 100 years ago.
President Woodrow Wilson: Pro-Segregationist Democrat--African-Americans & the Presidency
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not absolute but correct.
correct?
cause it doesn't fit the kkk dems created. so they have to sell it like the reps have been in charge for fking ever.They didn't, that's the point. WH Taft was more conservative than either Roosevelt or Wilson in 1912I think most republicans were more Liberal than their democratic counter parts back in Lincoln’s day. Southern democrats were absolutely conservative during Jim Crow. Those roles flip flopped during the mid 1900sWrong, we've been over thisMaybe not republicans but yes conservatives. Efforts to free slaves and progress their rights was a Liberal effort by definition. And the actions by the southern states, and yes southern Democrats, and Jim Crow laws were not a result of the way blacks were voting. Like I said a few posts ago, that is completely tone deafWrong man, blacks voted in the inbetween years, if they could jump through the hoops, and who put up those barriers? hint:NOT conservative republicansThat amendment was in 1870 not 1860 and a few years after it passed blacks were striped of their citizenship rights and rights to vote by southern state governments. It wasn’t until the civil rights act of 1965 that banned those discriminatory laws. But who cares about history, right?
there were conservatives in lincolns time. Watch the movie
if you don't like that
then what did Horace Greeley run as and what year? Who did he run against? What party were they?
And of course let me know the last democrat more conservative than the republican for President?
As for the south, what really happened was AC.....once it became widely available, republicans moved south for lower taxes and better weather? why republicans? because they had jobs they could transfer to and they had enough money to move.
I moved to TN in 1992 with my parents, better weather, lower taxes....
Did you know that TN house and senate wasn't controlled by republicans until 2009 (they had one term in the late 60s, but it was an outlier)?
List of Speakers of the Tennessee House of Representatives - Wikipedia
List of Speakers of the Louisiana House of Representatives - Wikipedia
Party control of Alabama state government - Ballotpedia
Alabama has become more Republican in the last 30 years. 30 years would be 1988
look at others, most senators and house members and state legislatures didn't go republican until the 1980s, roughly 20 years after the civil rights act,why?
Because people didn't switch, it was population movement and people growing up with different attitudes(aka non racist attitudes).
Sorry guys that switch stuff is total bunk.....it didn't happen.
your ploy was to be a liar and post fake news like trump had lied and was a boob. it's what a staunch leftist does. disingenuous.We playing word games now? Do you not recognize the barriers that were in place from 1870s - 1965. Do you not understand my point or do I need to spell it out for you?Good for you, I’m sure you’d also be cheering him on if you heard him say that at his rally. That shit just makes me laugh in a sad kind of way. #patheticDid you all hear Trump say this at his last rally? Another brilliant tag line from our dear leader
#clueless
Blacks have been eligible to vote for 148 years, I'm sure some have been voting for commiecrats during that time.
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I've got the 15th Amendment, passed in Feb 1870, you?
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