Boy........Did we ever get Schlonged

[gipper]

The failure to regulate came from Barney Frank and other libs who supported giving unqualified people mortgages.

Which means we had a lack of regulation that allowed banks to bury these loans in with solid loans and sell them as prime investments

foolish...to think big gov can effectively regulate big business, is one of the biggest and dumbest things anyone can think.

Big gov and big business ALWAYS collude.

Big business cannot function without big government

Government cannot function without big private business… Because there is no creativity, no innovation in big government.

The government is not allowed to do that type of R&D anymore. They used to be very good at it......remember the Manhatan Project?

Government sucks...always has and always will.

 

[Rustic]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

Seriously?

Q. Who builds bridges, tunnels and highways an other public sector projects?

A. Private sector contractors who hire private sector employees.

The dollars come from government revenue from selling bonds and treasury bills more so than from tax dollars.

You and ChirsL must both frequent the same Kool-aid bar.

The fact remains the government itself does not build things, it does not create jobs, it does not do anything but take tax money from people… Fact

 

[rightwinger]

Corporations, especially banking, see the door opening to go back to fewer pollution controls, fewer regulations protecting consumers, back to poor banking practices. You learned nothing from TARP.

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

It amazes me that you do not understand that the government functions as an agent of the people.
The people say......we want you to build schools
The people say....we want you to build roads
The people say....we want a strong defense

The government collects the money and does it

 

[Rustic]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

The companies that build for the Defense Department are private sector companies, you know like a subcontractor… LOL

 

[rightwinger]

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

Seriously?

Q. Who builds bridges, tunnels and highways an other public sector projects?

A. Private sector contractors who hire private sector employees.

The dollars come from government revenue from selling bonds and treasury bills more so than from tax dollars.

You and ChirsL must both frequent the same Kool-aid bar.

The fact remains the government itself does not build things, it does not create jobs, it does not do anything but take tax money from people… Fact

Doesn't create jobs?

Teachers, police, firemen, construction, the entire defense industry

 

[Wry Catcher]

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

Seriously?

Q. Who builds bridges, tunnels and highways an other public sector projects?

A. Private sector contractors who hire private sector employees.

The dollars come from government revenue from selling bonds and treasury bills more so than from tax dollars.

You and ChirsL must both frequent the same Kool-aid bar.

That is not the issue we are discussing though. The public sector does not help with job growth or creation because it is based off tax payer dollars.

You don't think, try it sometime.

First open you eyes and see a bridge built by government revenue, employees who built that bridge paid taxes as did the contractor. Now. look at who is on the bridge, commuters going to work, trucks moving goods and trucks of plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc. Imagine how effective it would be if only the private sector decided when and where to build a bridge, and how long it would take for them to realize a profit?

Imagine you are a traveler in the 18th century moving from the East Cost to the new lands in the west. No public roads, so at each private land, or land under the control of the state you hoped to travel through, you would pay a fee, and at each crossing another fee, sometimes paying four or five fees a day? Such was the reality under the Articles of Confederation.

Major projects are not built on tax dollars, they are built on the revenue from those who buy bonds and treasury bills, a safe investment for them, and a debt paid out in the future by revenue from tolls and fees paid by the users.

BTW, what I described is Capitalism at work, not the socialism or Ponzi Scheme you and other biddables have been brainwashed to believe.

 

[Rustic]

The failure to regulate came from Barney Frank and other libs who supported giving unqualified people mortgages.

Which means we had a lack of regulation that allowed banks to bury these loans in with solid loans and sell them as prime investments

foolish...to think big gov can effectively regulate big business, is one of the biggest and dumbest things anyone can think.

Big gov and big business ALWAYS collude.

Big business cannot function without big government

Government cannot function without big private business… Because there is no creativity, no innovation in big government.

Really, so you say. JFK had a different opinion:

http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html

Have another cup of kool-aid, or go to he same bar as Rustic and ChrisL and buy a round.

JFK did not put anyone on the moon, the private sector companies building the products are the ones that put someone on the moon.… Fact

 

[rightwinger]

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

The companies that build for the Defense Department or private sector companies, you know like a subcontractor… LOL

And they do not exist without the government telling them what to do and funding their entire operation

 

[ChrisL]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

Yes, the private sector does build them. Lol.

General Dynamics Electric Boat - Wikipedia

 

[rightwinger]

Which means we had a lack of regulation that allowed banks to bury these loans in with solid loans and sell them as prime investments

foolish...to think big gov can effectively regulate big business, is one of the biggest and dumbest things anyone can think.

Big gov and big business ALWAYS collude.

Big business cannot function without big government

Government cannot function without big private business… Because there is no creativity, no innovation in big government.

Really, so you say. JFK had a different opinion:

http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html

Have another cup of kool-aid, or go to he same bar as Rustic and ChrisL and buy a round.

JFK did not put anyone on the moon, the private sector companies building the products are the ones that put someone on the moon.… Fact

Did they just do that on their own?
Private industry did not pay to do any part of it. There was no profit in it

 

[gipper]

7 Reasons Why Liberals Are Incapable of Understanding The World

1) Liberalism creates a feedback loop. It is usually impossible for a non-liberal to change a liberal's mind about political issues because liberalism works like so: only liberals are credible sources of information. How do you know someone's liberal? He espouses liberal doctrine. So, no matter how plausible what you say may be, it will be ignored if you're not a liberal and if you are a liberal, of course, you probably agree with liberal views. This sort of close-mindedness makes liberals nearly impervious to any information that might undermine their beliefs.


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2) Liberals sources of information are ever present. Conservatives are regularly exposed to the liberal viewpoint whether they want to be or not. That's not necessarily so for liberals. Imagine the average day for liberals. They get up and read their local newspaper. It has a liberal viewpoint. They take their kids to school, where the teachers are liberal. Then they go to work, listen to NPR which has a liberal viewpoint on the way home, and then turn on the nightly news which also skews leftward. From there, they turn on TV and watch shows created by liberals that lean to the left, if they have any political viewpoint at all. Unless liberals actively seek out conservative viewpoints, which is unlikely, the only conservative arguments they're probably going to hear are going to be through the heavily distorted, poorly translated, deeply skeptical lens of other liberals.

3) Liberals emphasize feeling superior, not superior results. Liberalism is all about appearances, not outcomes. What matters to liberals is how a program makes them FEEL about themselves, not whether it works or not. Thus a program like Headstart, which sounds good because it's designed to help children read, makes liberals feel good about themselves, even though the program doesn't work and wastes billions. A ban on DDT makes liberals feel good about themselves because they're "protecting the environment" even though millions of people have died as a result. For liberals, it's not what a program does in the real world; it's about whether they feel better about themselves for supporting it.


4) Liberals are big believers in moral relativism. This spins them round and round because if the only thing that's wrong is saying that there's an absolute moral code, then you lose your ability to tell cause from effect, good from bad, and right from wrong. Taking being non-judgmental to the level that liberals do leaves them paralyzed, pondering "why they hate us" because they feel incapable of saying, “That's wrong," and doing something about it. If you're against firm standards and condemning immoral behavior, then your moral compass won’t work and you’ll also be for immorality, as well as societal and cultural decay by default.

5) Liberals tend to view people as parts of groups, not individuals. One of the prejudices of liberalism is that they see everyone as part of a group, not as an individual. This can lead to rather bizarre disparities when say, a man from a group that they consider to be powerless, impoverished victims becomes the leader of the free world -- and he's challenged by a group of lower middle class white people who've banded together because individually they're powerless. If you listen to the liberal rhetoric, you might think Barack Obama was a black Republican being surrounded by a KKK lynching party 100 years ago -- as opposed to the single most powerful man in America abusing the authority of his office to attack ordinary Tea Partiers who have the audacity to speak the truth to power for the good of their country.


6) Liberals take a dim view of personal responsibility. Who's at fault if a criminal commits a crime? The criminal or society? If someone creates a business and becomes a millionaire, is that the result of hard work and talent or luck? If you're dirt poor, starving, and haven't worked in 5 years, is that a personal failing or a failure of the state? Conservatives would tend to say the former in each case, while liberals would tend to say the latter. But when you disconnect what an individual does from the results that happen in his life, it's very difficult to understand cause and effect in people's lives.

7) Liberals give themselves far too much credit just for being liberal. To many liberals, all one needs to do to be wise, intelligent, compassionate, open minded, and sensitive is to BE LIBERAL. In other words, many of the good things about a person spring not from his actions, but from the ideology he holds. This has an obvious appeal. You can be a diehard misogynist, but plausibly call yourself a feminist, hate blacks, but accuse others of racism, have a subpar IQ and be an intellectual, give nothing to charity and be compassionate, etc., etc., and all you have to do is call yourself a liberal. It's a shortcut to virtue much like the corrupt old idea of religious indulgences. Why live a life of virtue when you could live a sinful life and buy your way into heaven? If you're a liberal, why actually live a life of virtue when you can merely call yourself a liberal and get credit for being virtuous, even when you've done nothing to earn it?

So right!

Particularly point number 2. Liberals control the media. Those of us not liberal, must endure liberalism every day being pumped into our brains by the media, academia, Hollywood, etc. Liberals experience this too, but they are not smart enough to comprehend that it is all propaganda designed to promote liberalism. Conversely liberals seldom if EVER are exposed to non-liberal points of view.

 

[rightwinger]

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

Yes, the private sector does build them. Lol.

General Dynamics Electric Boat - Wikipedia

GD does not exist without the Government. I should know, I have managed contracts with them for decades. The Government establish the need, write the requirements, put out a RFP, award and manage the contract
GD does what we pay them to do.

Electric Boat does not build a sub and then see if the Government wants to buy it.

 

[ChrisL]

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

Yes, the private sector does build them. Lol.

General Dynamics Electric Boat - Wikipedia

GD does not exist without the Government. I should know, I have managed contracts with them for decades. The Government establish the need, write the requirements, put out a RFP, award and manage the contract
GD does what we pay them to do.

Electric Boat does not build a sub and then see if the Government wants to buy it.

Sure you did. Lol.

 

[Rustic]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

It amazes me that you do not understand that the government functions as an agent of the people.
The people say......we want you to build schools
The people say....we want you to build roads
The people say....we want a strong defense

The government collects the money and does it

Government does not build anything itself, all of those roads, all those schools are built by private contractors.
It's like saying Obama killed Osama bin Laden, no he did not, a private company built the weapons that a seal used to kill Osama bin Laden. Just like Northrop Grumman, Boeing and the like build the defense for this country. Fact

 

[ChrisL]

Anyways, companies that have government contracts are not the bulk of the economy, nor do they provide the bulk of jobs. That would be the private sector.

 

[Wry Catcher]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

No, the federal government does not create jobs, it uses the private sector to create jobs. But it itself does not create jobs.
Obviously military, police and fire are necessary jobs, but civilian public jobs are really not jobs at all. Because someone has to pay for those jobs in the form of taxes so they are really a liability… Fact

The entire Defense Industry does not exist without government. The private sector does not build these neat fighter jets and submarines and then come to the government and say.....would you like to buy one?

There is no use trying to inform/educate Rustic or Freewill, both have been completely brainwashed and have no ability to think on their own.

 

[Rustic]

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

Seriously?

Q. Who builds bridges, tunnels and highways an other public sector projects?

A. Private sector contractors who hire private sector employees.

The dollars come from government revenue from selling bonds and treasury bills more so than from tax dollars.

You and ChirsL must both frequent the same Kool-aid bar.

The fact remains the government itself does not build things, it does not create jobs, it does not do anything but take tax money from people… Fact

Doesn't create jobs?

Teachers, police, firemen, construction, the entire defense industry

Those are necessary government jobs but they are all still a liability because someone has to pay for them. But obviously we need military, police and fire Type of jobs. Taxes pay for all that stuff so it is a liability the government is not ever creating jobs. Fact

 

[Rustic]

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

Seriously?

Q. Who builds bridges, tunnels and highways an other public sector projects?

A. Private sector contractors who hire private sector employees.

The dollars come from government revenue from selling bonds and treasury bills more so than from tax dollars.

You and ChirsL must both frequent the same Kool-aid bar.

That is not the issue we are discussing though. The public sector does not help with job growth or creation because it is based off tax payer dollars.

You don't think, try it sometime.

First open you eyes and see a bridge built by government revenue, employees who built that bridge paid taxes as did the contractor. Now. look at who is on the bridge, commuters going to work, trucks moving goods and trucks of plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc. Imagine how effective it would be if only the private sector decided when and where to build a bridge, and how long it would take for them to realize a profit?

Imagine you are a traveler in the 18th century moving from the East Cost to the new lands in the west. No public roads, so at each private land, or land under the control of the state you hoped to travel through, you would pay a fee, and at each crossing another fee, sometimes paying four or five fees a day? Such was the reality under the Articles of Confederation.

Major projects are not built on tax dollars, they are built on the revenue from those who buy bonds and treasury bills, a safe investment for them, and a debt paid out in the future by revenue from tolls and fees paid by the users.

BTW, what I described is Capitalism at work, not the socialism or Ponzi Scheme you and other biddables have been brainwashed to believe.

Keynesian economics has never worked, it can't work because it's always a liability...
What comes after those ellipses?

 

[Rustic]

The fact remains the federal government cannot create jobs. That being said obviously military, police and fire And the like are necessary. But they are still a liability because those have to be paid by someone else through Taxes.
Just because the federal government prints paper and calls it money, that does not mean its wealth... quite the opposite is true… LOL

 

[Redfish]

More jobs.

How? What can the Congress do to create jobs in the private sector? Cut taxes? Will that trickle down to more jobs?

Will fiscal conservatism somehow create jobs, or will it cost jobs by putting civil servants out of work? Less cops, POs, Social Workers, teachers and health centers will have consequences, what do you see will be the effect?

Magical thinking is for children, we need adults to run the nation. Greed is a deadly sin, and I am not optimistic that Trump, McConnell and Ryan have the value system necessary to run a nation which will no longer be of the people, by the people or for the people.

The two words that haunt me, and may very well haunt all of us non elites are Plutocracy and Fascism, they go hand in hand and have become the new normal. Get used to it, those who celebrate today are sure to be disappointed. Will the willfully ignorant have the character to admit voter remorse? I doubt it, the revisionists will make sure to rewrite history and blame Obama and the Democratic Party for the Great Recession, high unemployment and killing the American Dream.

The federal government has never will never create jobs, it can't. It is up to the private sector.
With shitty numbers like two and 3% GDP one can see that when there is more government jobs then private jobs in certain areas that's a failure every time.

The federal government creates millions of jobs in both the public and private sector

the difference is that public sector job are paid for with tax collections, private sector jobs are paid by selling goods and services. It amazes me that you don't understand that.

It amazes me that you do not understand that the government functions as an agent of the people.
The people say......we want you to build schools
The people say....we want you to build roads
The people say....we want a strong defense

The government collects the money and does it

yes, show me where I ever disagreed with that. The government has functions and responsibilities as called out in the constitution. National defense is one of them. A court system is another one. the federal government does not build schools. It grants money to the states to build interstate highways.

No where in the constitution does it require the federal government to pass out money to citizens who are too lazy to work.