BREAKING: Steven Sotloff beheaded

[Statistikhengst]

This isn't a American problem it's a world problem. That said I agree with you Katz. ISIS is doing what Putin is doing. They know America, who has taken the unfortunate position of being world police, has a weak leader. They are simply promoting their agenda and taking advantage of the situation. It's like what happened with Jimmy Carter all over again.

That was, of course, stupid and shows you know nothing of the fucking history of how that all went down. But somehow, that doesn't surprise me.

 

[Statistikhengst]

that's what you deserve America for electing a feeble minded redneck Darkie

A beheading has nothing directly to do with our President.

Oh, and for calling him a "darkie", go fuck yourself, neanderthal.

 

[Peach]

And no people were beheaded during Bush, that would never be allowed....

A rehash of the Bush disasters saves no one from the brutality of today, Get in touch with BOTH the White House and Congress, it is urgent work SPEED UP angainst ISIS(.)

I agree, but we will have to wait to see if Congress can muster the effort to collectively support a full scale action, which is needed...I wonder if Syria would allow US ground troops in Syria? It would be to their benefit also...

Let both branches know Americans, and those of many other nations demand action, well planned action, as soon as possible; yesterday was too late.

 

[Statistikhengst]

#TimeForNewHashtags!!!

Yes like:

#ClintonJustSteamrolledCrusaderFrank

 

[Samson]

This isn't a American problem it's a world problem. That said I agree with you Katz. ISIS is doing what Putin is doing. They know America, who has taken the unfortunate position of being world police, has a weak leader. They are simply promoting their agenda and taking advantage of the situation. It's like what happened with Jimmy Carter all over again.

That was, of course, stupid and shows you know nothing of the fucking history of how that all went down. But somehow, that doesn't surprise me.

You don't recall that Jimmy Carter was beheaded?

 

[Statistikhengst]

People, more intervention and war only begets more intervention and war. The man shouldn't have been there. It wasn't his war. We need to stop the meddling and killing around the world. These are not our wars people.

Up until the Korean War, the United States had a VERY different view of what war is. War is terrible, brutal, people die. In World War I, 9 million soldiers died - 17 million civilians died. War was not a game, it was brutal. The goal was not to arrest the infantry and try them in court for following the orders of their superiors, as the fucking moron Obama seeks, war was waged to end the DESIRE of the enemy to fight. It was not limited, and collateral damage was an intended consequence of war. Basically the USA took the position that if you fuck with us, we will kill you, and kill your families. War was not intended to be nice.

IF we wish to win the war we are in now, we need to do several things,

1. Acknowledge that we are in a war
2. Recognize who are enemy is
3. Be willing to do what is needed to win
4. Draw a clear line between war and peace

Americans don't want war, and there is a delusion that if we pretend there is no war, it will go away. But whether we acknowledge reality or not, Islam is at war with us. Not "radical Islam," or some other bullshit modifier, just Islam. Islam and civilization are not compatible. Either Islam must change to accommodate civilization, as both Christianity and Judaism have, or it must fight the civilized world, For years, Turkey stood as testament that Islam could change, could evolve into a religion that exist among decent people. But that was the past, even Turkey is pulled into the cesspool that is Islam.

The United States has to power to win this war. Our weapons are great and terrible, our fighting men the best trained and equipped in the history of the world. What we lack is will.

To win, we must make the price of engaging us too great for the Muslims to be willing to pay - we must break their will - just as we did with the Axis, just as we did with the Triple Alliance. This means exacting a toll on Muslims that will create fear in their hearts. Strategic bombing of ISIS with robot drones does nothing to break the will on the enemy, in fact it strengthens their will by creating martyrs to be cherished by their sick and primitive religion. To break their will means utterly annihilating them. Unleashing the full wrath of America, leaving every inch of territory held by ISIS in a condition the Dresden never dreamed of in the worst nightmare of PTSD victims that somehow crawled out of that rubble. Civilians will die - many of them, just as they did in Dresden, and Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.I mean that we carpet bomb with MOAB's so that the thought of harboring or supporting ISIS and the other Muslims will create a fear in the hearts of people from Damascus to Tehran. That the price of engaging America will be one that Islam is unwilling to pay.

No boots on the ground, no nation building, no help with the aftermath. Just a flurry of death for those who fail to grasp that America is not to be fucked with.

This leads to my final point - we live in a state of limbo, neither war nor peace. We must return to the sanity that war and peace are mutually exclusive.

Don't pass out, but I agree with most every word of that. Well written, and well done.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't think Obama has the "ability to sell it" to our allies Sherry. Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not trustworthy. Like ISIS Obama runs on ideology. It may differ from theirs but it is ideology nonetheless. And the biggest problem he has outside of his ideology is NO BACKBONE. None. Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback.
We will have to wait for a REAL LEADER to take on this religious war. One not bound by polls or winds of change, but one grounded in what's right or wrong. One who can make tough decisions on our behalf regardless of what the price may be to "party"

The cowardly Cindy Shehans of America have done severe damage to our nation and many politicians fear them more than they do the terrorists.

Gotta disagree here: Obama promised to remove the USA from Iraq, without contingencies. He made no promise that it would be done while preserving the stability and alliance of any new Iraqi government. So now he's painted himself into the corner he cannot escape regardless of all the diplomatic skills he honed as a community organizer in Chicago. Even if he had a backbone, he could not do anything.

This is why the Germans and Brits are coming to his rescue. They will form a strategy for dealing with ISIS, and Obama will simply be following along with an alliance.

Disagree with what?

I don't think Obama will "change with the slightest blowback." If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass.

What does that have to do with my post or the history of Obama's flip flops?

• You said, "Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback."
• I disagreed.
• You wondered why I disagreed
• I said "I don't think Obama will 'change with the slightest blowback.' If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass."

Miller Time

Obama HAS made various threats or promises that he has renigged on. The red line in Syria comes to mind very easily. My post was accurate & to the point. No one fears or trusts Obama.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Of course RW's send their condolences. It's just very frustrating when you've been telling the libs Islam = bad for years and they don't listen because they have to be PC. And Guess what? We've allowed oodles of Koranimals in the USA. The beheading of these journalists is just the beginning. Anyone who doesn't think there is a terror cell living in every Islamic community in the USA is an idiot. Of course there is. The extremist groups may be crazy but they aren't dumb. My question is, How long is the left going to take to have the same epiphany about Islam that the RW's have? This crap will continue until we all either convert or fight for our way of life. There is no other option.

My condolences to the Sotloff family. His death will not be in vain.

Islam does not equal bad any more than Christianity equals bad.

Sorry, but around the world today Islam indeed is equaling "bad" much more of the time than Christianity.

It's too bad you stupid mother fucking goddamned idiot liberals couldn't one mother fucking time see the fucking difference !!!!!!!!!!!!!7

I know that you want everything to be simple. It is in your DNA. But it isn't. There are good and bad Muslims. Just like there are good and bad Christians. You idiot simpleton.

Of course there are good and bad in all religions, but the Crusades were not yesterday. When will one of you simpleton liberals acknowledge that around the world today there are many times over much more of a problem with the followers of Islam ?
Why is it that not one of you mentally challenged liberals concede this point ?
Why is it you're all fucking robots, and all come rushing in to breathlessly tell us when another Islamic terror incident occurs, that Christianity and Christians are just as bad ?
Well guess what skippy, today Islam is worse !! PERIOD !!!!

Sorry dickhead. I won't allow some idiot to say "Islam=bad" and not address it.

Muslim extremists are bad. They represent a small fraction of Muslims.

Be accurate in the way you speak and you won't be called a simpleton.

Well dickhead, guarantee you, you would gladly allow someone to claim Christianity is bad. While you personally might not believe that, as a good little lib you would never come to the rescue and correct another poster who made such a claim. It's just not in the DNA of an American liberal. You love trashing your own cultures majority religion, but let someone have something negative to say about Islam, and you guys trip over each other racing to your computer to the rescue.

Nope. You will never see me remain silent if someone says all Christians are bad. You are projecting.

I think all religions are fucked up. The people who follow them are not bad. They are lacking the ability to reason. Many are good.....even great....people.

Dumbass.

"The people who follow them are not bad". You seriously want to stick with that comment across the board ?

Sorry you colossal ignoramus, but someone who cuts the head off of another in the name of their god, IS a BAD person !! Got that ? They are bad. BAD BAD BAD !!!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Of course RW's send their condolences. It's just very frustrating when you've been telling the libs Islam = bad for years and they don't listen because they have to be PC. And Guess what? We've allowed oodles of Koranimals in the USA. The beheading of these journalists is just the beginning. Anyone who doesn't think there is a terror cell living in every Islamic community in the USA is an idiot. Of course there is. The extremist groups may be crazy but they aren't dumb. My question is, How long is the left going to take to have the same epiphany about Islam that the RW's have? This crap will continue until we all either convert or fight for our way of life. There is no other option.

My condolences to the Sotloff family. His death will not be in vain.

Islam does not equal bad any more than Christianity equals bad.

Sorry, but around the world today Islam indeed is equaling "bad" much more of the time than Christianity.

It's too bad you stupid mother fucking goddamned idiot liberals couldn't one mother fucking time see the fucking difference !!!!!!!!!!!!!7

I know that you want everything to be simple. It is in your DNA. But it isn't. There are good and bad Muslims. Just like there are good and bad Christians. You idiot simpleton.

Of course there are good and bad in all religions, but the Crusades were not yesterday. When will one of you simpleton liberals acknowledge that around the world today there are many times over much more of a problem with the followers of Islam ?
Why is it that not one of you mentally challenged liberals concede this point ?
Why is it you're all fucking robots, and all come rushing in to breathlessly tell us when another Islamic terror incident occurs, that Christianity and Christians are just as bad ?
Well guess what skippy, today Islam is worse !! PERIOD !!!!

Sorry dickhead. I won't allow some idiot to say "Islam=bad" and not address it.

Muslim extremists are bad. They represent a small fraction of Muslims.

Be accurate in the way you speak and you won't be called a simpleton.

Well dickhead, guarantee you, you would gladly allow someone to claim Christianity is bad. While you personally might not believe that, as a good little lib you would never come to the rescue and correct another poster who made such a claim. It's just not in the DNA of an American liberal. You love trashing your own cultures majority religion, but let someone have something negative to say about Islam, and you guys trip over each other racing to your computer to the rescue.

Nope. You will never see me remain silent if someone says all Christians are bad. You are projecting.

I think all religions are fucked up. The people who follow them are not bad. They are lacking the ability to reason. Many are good.....even great....people.

Dumbass.

"The people who follow them are not bad". You seriously want to stick with that comment across the board ?

Sorry you colossal ignoramus, but someone who cuts the head off of another in the name of their god, IS a BAD person !! Got that ? They are bad. BAD BAD BAD !!!

You aren't even certain that the guy who did that is devout. You are GENERALIZING and condemning hundreds of millions of people because you are frightened.

Try harder, dummy.

 

[LoneLaugher]

By the way DD,,,,would you....if given the opportunity...cut the head off of the man who did that to Foley or Sotloff?

Be honest.

 

[Samson]

I don't think Obama has the "ability to sell it" to our allies Sherry. Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not trustworthy. Like ISIS Obama runs on ideology. It may differ from theirs but it is ideology nonetheless. And the biggest problem he has outside of his ideology is NO BACKBONE. None. Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback.
We will have to wait for a REAL LEADER to take on this religious war. One not bound by polls or winds of change, but one grounded in what's right or wrong. One who can make tough decisions on our behalf regardless of what the price may be to "party"

The cowardly Cindy Shehans of America have done severe damage to our nation and many politicians fear them more than they do the terrorists.

Gotta disagree here: Obama promised to remove the USA from Iraq, without contingencies. He made no promise that it would be done while preserving the stability and alliance of any new Iraqi government. So now he's painted himself into the corner he cannot escape regardless of all the diplomatic skills he honed as a community organizer in Chicago. Even if he had a backbone, he could not do anything.

This is why the Germans and Brits are coming to his rescue. They will form a strategy for dealing with ISIS, and Obama will simply be following along with an alliance.

Disagree with what?

I don't think Obama will "change with the slightest blowback." If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass.

What does that have to do with my post or the history of Obama's flip flops?

• You said, "Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback."
• I disagreed.
• You wondered why I disagreed
• I said "I don't think Obama will 'change with the slightest blowback.' If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass."

Miller Time

Obama HAS made various threats or promises that he has renigged on. The red line in Syria comes to mind very easily. My post was accurate & to the point. No one fears or trusts Obama.

I was under the impression we were discussing ISIS in Iraq, not every single position Obama has taken since the day he was born. On this subject, he remains stubbornly devoted to his promise to remove the US from Iraqi affairs, regardless of the disastrous consequences.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

By the way DD,,,,would you....if given the opportunity...cut the head off of the man who did that to Foley or Sotloff?



Be honest.

Only if he were an American liberal.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't think Obama has the "ability to sell it" to our allies Sherry. Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not trustworthy. Like ISIS Obama runs on ideology. It may differ from theirs but it is ideology nonetheless. And the biggest problem he has outside of his ideology is NO BACKBONE. None. Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback.
We will have to wait for a REAL LEADER to take on this religious war. One not bound by polls or winds of change, but one grounded in what's right or wrong. One who can make tough decisions on our behalf regardless of what the price may be to "party"

The cowardly Cindy Shehans of America have done severe damage to our nation and many politicians fear them more than they do the terrorists.

Gotta disagree here: Obama promised to remove the USA from Iraq, without contingencies. He made no promise that it would be done while preserving the stability and alliance of any new Iraqi government. So now he's painted himself into the corner he cannot escape regardless of all the diplomatic skills he honed as a community organizer in Chicago. Even if he had a backbone, he could not do anything.

This is why the Germans and Brits are coming to his rescue. They will form a strategy for dealing with ISIS, and Obama will simply be following along with an alliance.

Disagree with what?

I don't think Obama will "change with the slightest blowback." If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass.

What does that have to do with my post or the history of Obama's flip flops?

• You said, "Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback."
• I disagreed.
• You wondered why I disagreed
• I said "I don't think Obama will 'change with the slightest blowback.' If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass."

Miller Time

Obama HAS made various threats or promises that he has renigged on. The red line in Syria comes to mind very easily. My post was accurate & to the point. No one fears or trusts Obama.

I was under the impression we were discussing ISIS in Iraq, not every single position Obama has taken since the day he was born. On this subject, he remains stubbornly devoted to his promise to remove the US from Iraqi affairs, regardless of the disastrous consequences.

Since he was born? WTF kind of stupid ass comment is that? I am referring to his international positions with regards to both our allies & our enemies. Neither of which have seen a history to which they would trust or fear Obama. Period, end of story despite your hyperbole.

Ps. Miller is piss water

 

[Uncensored2008]

Islam does not equal bad any more than Christianity equals bad.

Anyone ever clue you in to the fact that you're as stupid as a pile of bricks in a pile of shit?

Quick stupid fuck, name the last US Journalist beheaded by Christians?

Yeah, you fucking moron.

 

[Rotagilla]

Meanwhile as the partisans call each other cute names and chatter, the southern border is wide open....just as obama and the other treasonous politicians on both sides want it to be.

 

[Samson]

I don't think Obama has the "ability to sell it" to our allies Sherry. Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not trustworthy. Like ISIS Obama runs on ideology. It may differ from theirs but it is ideology nonetheless. And the biggest problem he has outside of his ideology is NO BACKBONE. None. Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback.
We will have to wait for a REAL LEADER to take on this religious war. One not bound by polls or winds of change, but one grounded in what's right or wrong. One who can make tough decisions on our behalf regardless of what the price may be to "party"

The cowardly Cindy Shehans of America have done severe damage to our nation and many politicians fear them more than they do the terrorists.

Gotta disagree here: Obama promised to remove the USA from Iraq, without contingencies. He made no promise that it would be done while preserving the stability and alliance of any new Iraqi government. So now he's painted himself into the corner he cannot escape regardless of all the diplomatic skills he honed as a community organizer in Chicago. Even if he had a backbone, he could not do anything.

This is why the Germans and Brits are coming to his rescue. They will form a strategy for dealing with ISIS, and Obama will simply be following along with an alliance.

Disagree with what?

I don't think Obama will "change with the slightest blowback." If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass.

What does that have to do with my post or the history of Obama's flip flops?

• You said, "Obama's promises & threats are viewed as empty rhetoric that is subject to change with the slightest blowback."
• I disagreed.
• You wondered why I disagreed
• I said "I don't think Obama will 'change with the slightest blowback.' If he did then he would have responded to his own party member's demands that he remove thumb from ass."

Miller Time

Obama HAS made various threats or promises that he has renigged on. The red line in Syria comes to mind very easily. My post was accurate & to the point. No one fears or trusts Obama.

I was under the impression we were discussing ISIS in Iraq, not every single position Obama has taken since the day he was born. On this subject, he remains stubbornly devoted to his promise to remove the US from Iraqi affairs, regardless of the disastrous consequences.

Since he was born? WTF kind of stupid ass comment is that? I am referring to his international positions with regards to both our allies & our enemies. Neither of which have seen a history to which they would trust or fear Obama. Period, end of story despite your hyperbole.

Ps. Miller is piss water

Well to be frank, my comment was directed more toward your absurd notion that EVERY position Obama takes ("since his birth") MUST "change with the slightest blowback." Because you have few real and imagined examples where you claim that's the fact, doesn't mean its ALWAYS the fact.

Obama's constituents will not allow him to take any serious action toward ISIS in Iraq.

On the bright side, Inductive Logic seems to be your strength.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Islam does not equal bad any more than Christianity equals bad.

Anyone ever clue you in to the fact that you're as stupid as a pile of bricks in a pile of shit?

Quick stupid fuck, name the last US Journalist beheaded by Christians?

Yeah, you fucking moron.

I can name you some abortion doctors shot dead by Christians, will that work for you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I wonder what the mother of Sotloff today thinks of Obama's "jr. varsity" comment ?

Just because someone can kill a journalist that makes them some sort of 'varsity' player?

What about those two rightwingers out west who killed the two cops? Did they make the rightwing Sovereign Citizens a varsity terrorist movement?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I can name you some abortion doctors shot dead by Christians, will that work for you?

Oh, you can compare ice cream to dogshit and think it's a match?

Well, there's a reason you're a leftist, isn't there?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Just because someone can kill a journalist that makes them some sort of 'varsity' player?

What about those two rightwingers out west who killed the two cops? Did they make the rightwing Sovereign Citizens a varsity terrorist movement?

It makes them evil, but it won't stop you leftists from sucking their cocks.

9/11 made Islam the eternal beloved of the left.