Can a store owner ask me if I am vaxxed?

[SassyIrishLass]

So the business owner can deny service to say Jews. “No Jews allowed”.

you would support that?

How about "No Muslim's"?

 

[Asclepias]

So the business owner can deny service to say Jews. “No Jews allowed”.

you would support that?

Thats stupid you retard. "Jews" would be covered under religion.

 

[Asclepias]

How about "No Muslim's"?

Same thing retard. Its a religion PALs say thats a no no.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why would asking for vaccination cards be racist when they give them out for free and you get them when you get your shot?

IDs are free too if you don’t have $$. And how do you know who is giving you the card without backup ID?

 

[Rigby5]

Public accommodations laws with provisions for sexual orientation are regulatory measures which benefit local markets pursuant to Commerce Clause jurisprudence – because public accommodations laws are Constitutional, they don’t violate the property rights of business owners.

Business owners are otherwise at liberty to accommodate whom they wish consistent with public accommodations laws – including denying service to those not vaccinated.

That is just a lie
Pubic accommodations laws are ancient and prevent any arbitrary discrimination at all.
For example, there are lots of good reason why people can not get vaccinated, such as already being immune, being at risk medically, against their religion or political beliefs, etc.

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This is a sophistic argument that ignores centuries of Anglo-American law, which has long limited the ability of certain businesses open to the public to decline service to willing customers.[2] Under the old English and early American common law, “common carriers” — that is, businesses that provided services deemed essential by the courts, like transportation and lodging — were required to take all customers unless they had a good reason not to, like the customer could not pay or presented a threat to other customers. In some states, this “duty to serve” extended to all businesses open to the public, such as restaurants, casinos, racetracks, malls, and stadiums.
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Proof-of-vaccination and public accommodations law

The CDC’s announcement on May 13 that people fully vaccinated against COVID-19 need not continue to wear masks in most public settings has put an intense focus on the question of whether businesses…

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[SassyIrishLass]

Same thing retard. Its a religion PALs say thats a no no.

Go flap your lips elsewhere.

You're nothing to me and my comment wasn't directed towards you anyway

 

[Magnus]

Thoughts? It's coming.

Yes. Next question?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Same thing retard. Its a religion PALs say thats a no no.

How about no fat people? So you would be banned. You d be cool with that?

 

[Asclepias]

IDs are free too if you don’t have $$. And how do you know who is giving you the card without backup ID?

No you have to fill out paper work to get a free ID and you have to be homeless. They also don't go into your neighborhood and give you free IDs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope. It’s just ensuring the person voting is the person who is registered.

The you are very gullible. Its not a secret anymore. Everyone knows what the new voter id push is for. So either you are gullible or running the con.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong.

Public accommodations laws prohibit discrimination only for classes of persons provided for in the law; they are not ‘comprehensive.’

Because no public accommodations law has a provision for those not vaccinated, business owners may lawfully refuse service to those who are not vaccinated.

Totally untrue.
Rights are infinite and so are possible groups that need protection, so you never could possibly ever list them all and you are never supposed to.
The principle of arbitrary discrimination is by itself totally illegal, and no particular groupings are ever required by legislation.
Historically discriminated against groups are specifically listed, but in no way does that ever remotely imply other discrimination would then be legal in any way.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Dude you're an idiot and I think you're a fcking conical clown

How's that?

We’ve seen the same hypocrisy from conservatives with regard to the right’s desire to use government to punish social media because social media are ‘mean’ to conservatives.

Just as social media can refuse to accommodate conservatives who spread misinformation and lies about the pandemic and vaccines, so too can private business owners refuse to accommodate those who are not vaccinated.

If the hypocritical right were consistent with its advocacy of private property rights, they’d support the right of private social media to edit their content as they see fit and the right of private business owners to not accommodate the unvaccinated.

 

[Asclepias]

How about no fat people? So you would be banned. You d be cool with that?

No you would be safe as fat people like you are protected under the disability clause.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We’ve seen the same hypocrisy from conservatives with regard to the right’s desire to use government to punish social media because social media are ‘mean’ to conservatives.

Just as social media can refuse to accommodate conservatives who spread misinformation and lies about the pandemic and vaccines, so too can private business owners refuse to accommodate those who are not vaccinated.

If the hypocritical right were consistent with its advocacy of private property rights, they’d support the right of private social media to edit their content as they see fit and the right of private business owners to not accommodate the unvaccinated.

Yawn, mommy probably has cookies. Go get one

 

[surada]

Go flap your lips elsewhere.

You're nothing to me and my comment wasn't directed towards you anyway

I wouldn't have a problem with a store owner asking me if I was vaccinated, but I'm not looking for trouble. Are you?

 

[surada]

Leftists on this site are not on my level. They are resilient though. Keep coming back for whoopings

Thank God they aren't on your level.

 

[Rigby5]

Private businesses can set up any sort of policy they want. They ask for IDs when serving alcohol if the patron looks too young, then they can ask for vax proof, too, idiot.

Wrong.
Anyone open to the public most certainly can NOT set up any policy they want.
Arbitrary discrimination, for any reason, is totally illegal and always has been, for thousands of years.
Asking for ID before serving alcohol is NOT up to the business owner, but is required by the local laws.
You can ASK for vax proof if you want, but there is nothing stopping anyone from just producing a fake.
That is only illegal if you are violating state law, like trying to visit Hawaii without a quarantine period.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So the business owner can deny service to say Jews. “No Jews allowed”.

you would support that?

This fails as a red herring fallacy.

It’s also unsurprisingly ignorant.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination in public accommodations with regard to religion.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I wouldn't have a problem with a store owner asking me if I was vaccinated, but I'm not looking for trouble. Are you?

I'd laugh and tell the owner I'll take my business elsewhere.

You're the one thinking someone else's private health history is somehow a prelude to shopping

You're kinda sad

 

[Rigby5]

Public accommodations laws with provisions for sexual orientation are regulatory measures which benefit local markets pursuant to Commerce Clause jurisprudence – because public accommodations laws are Constitutional, they don’t violate the property rights of business owners.

Business owners are otherwise at liberty to accommodate whom they wish consistent with public accommodations laws – including denying service to those not vaccinated.

There is no allowance in any public accommodations law that allowed for discrimination based on vaccinations, except by public schools.