JakeStarkey
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Sil, do you belong to any recognized Christian denomination or are you a free range Christian?
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yup, they squawk a bunch
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Sil, do you belong to any recognized Christian denomination or are you a free range Christian?
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You should absolutely have that right. You should have the right to put a sign in the window saying "Gay only" if you wish and not cite any religious right to do so. However, no one is refusing to serve gays, merely refusing to be in servitude TO gays.
You homophobes will jump through loops to justify your hate.
Just like the segregationists and slave owners, you bend and twist the bible to suit your sick little phobias.
Might be worth it to open a business there and refuse to serve fundamentalist christians, far right muslims and tea partiers due to my "newly found but deeply felt" religious beliefs.Jude 1 in the Bible urges the faithful to "earnestly contend" to defend the faith for the "common salvation" and tells them that if they fail, they will be condemned to the pit of fire forever along with the homosexuals, like what happened in Sodom. There is a major, mortal sin associated with failing to fend off a homosexual culture from making inroads into a faithful culture of christians. They are condemned along with those they failed to fend off. That's some pretty tough language and high stakes for not taking the passage seriously...
..Christian's freedom to practice their religion is inseperable from the freedom to not be forced to disobey passages like Jude 1. The language in it is clear and unmistakeable in its severity of warning..
Yeah, not so sure about that last bit:
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You should absolutely have that right. You should have the right to put a sign in the window saying "Gay only" if you wish and not cite any religious right to do so. However, no one is refusing to serve gays, merely refusing to be in servitude TO gays.
Stormtroopers outside a Berlin store posting signs with the words "Germans! Defend yourselves! Do not buy from Jews" ("Deutsche! Wehrt Euch! Kauft nicht bei Juden!").
Stormtroopers outside a Berlin store posting signs with the words "Germans! Defend yourselves! Do not buy from Jews" ("Deutsche! Wehrt Euch! Kauft nicht bei Juden!").
God/Jesus would be so proud of his followers.
Might be worth it to open a business there and refuse to serve fundamentalist christians, far right muslims and tea partiers due to my "newly found but deeply felt" religious beliefs.![]()
You should absolutely have that right. You should have the right to put a sign in the window saying "Gay only" if you wish and not cite any religious right to do so. However, no one is refusing to serve gays, merely refusing to be in servitude TO gays.
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Stormtroopers outside a Berlin store posting signs with the words "Germans! Defend yourselves! Do not buy from Jews" ("Deutsche! Wehrt Euch! Kauft nicht bei Juden!").
God/Jesus would be so proud of his followers.
Edited to add source link: Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ah you're back Sil, good to see you.
Can I ask a question? Why do you not rail vociferously against Gangster Rap? The 2 passages you were good enough to point me to very far more obviously critical of boastfulness and greed than they were of homosexuality and as you pointed out those passages also condem to the pit those who take please in the sins of others.
Given that modern rap music is no almost all just boasting and displays of how much money the performer has surely this type of music should be criticised in the most stong of terms, it openly and blatantly flies in the face of the passages of the bilbe where homosexuality is criticised and I'm pretty sure there will be even more other passages.
JUDE 1
3. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not...
..7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire...
...14. And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15. To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17. But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21. Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22. And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23. And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy..
ROMANS 1
22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Sil, you have no idea what Jude 1 and Romans 1 means, and your babbling on about the matrix is meaningless in a pluralistic, democratic society that guarantees minority rights.
The Bible has no standing in court.
Whether those "rights" violate your 1st Amendment rights is not up to you to decide.
You can have your opinion, and you can argue for it.
But it will SCOTUS that decides how it is going to work in our society.
Christian dominionism no longer has a legitimate place in American politics and society.
Whether those "rights" violate your 1st Amendment rights is not up to you to decide.
You can have your opinion, and you can argue for it.
But it will SCOTUS that decides how it is going to work in our society.
Christian dominionism no longer has a legitimate place in American politics and society.
Your apparent hatred or Christianity has blinded you to to the obvious .
This isn't about Christianity, it's about the government taking powers that they do not have. If SCOTUS says that the government is empowered to tell you who you must like and who you must do business with, they are wrong.
Did you miss the entire Civil Rights movement? It was in all the papers
There is no church of LGBT.
The Bible has no standing in court.
All good Christians believe fully in separation of church and state.
All good Christians believe fully in civil rights.
There is no church of LGBT.
The Bible has no standing in court.
All good Christians believe fully in separation of church and state.
All good Christians believe fully in civil rights.
Behaviors don't quailfy for civil rights, unless they are a recognized religion. Are you saying that LGBT is a recognized religion? Where's the federal recognition documentation? If not, they surely are not a race, since they span all races, and they are not a gender, for they span both genders. So what are they if not a set of random deviant sexual behaviors?
And BTW, good christians do object to them. That's why we are having this debate.