CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack

[edthecynic]

Nice try, Ed but the scenario you've put forward is NOT what happened that night.

First of all if you don't know that gunfire can be heard from a mile away then you have very little experience with firearms. The CIA operators that were at the Annex have testified that they heard the gunfire from the consulate.

Help did not come from the Annex until several of the CIA operators refused to obey the third order they had received to "stand down" and went to the consulate to try and rescue the Ambassador.

Reinforcements from Tripoli didn't arrive at the consulate...an eight member security team arrived at the Annex after midnight at which point they were attacked by a far stronger force of terrorists armed with heavy weapons such as mortars.

A Delta Force team was flown from where they were training in Europe to an air base in Italy where they sat waiting for an order to deploy that never came. Why is that, Ed? They could have been on the ground in Libya in approximately 2 hours but were never deployed. Neither were C-130 gunships nor US fighter aircraft which meant when CIA operators put lasers on the mortars that were targeting them no US missiles ever came to snuff them out. Why is that, Ed?

As for what the White House had for video? It was reported yesterday that there were not one but two drones overhead relaying real time streaming video back to the US chain of command including the President. They were also in direct communication with CIA personnel inside of the Annex during the entire attack. So kindly explain why Leon Panetta's excuse for not sending help was that they didn't know what the situation was on the ground?

I accept that they didn't know the entire situation on the ground. They had no idea how many people were involved, whether they had surface to air missiles, or if there were forces waiting reserve somewhere. That, however, is not an acceptable excuse for not doing something unless you are a politician that is more worried about reelection than American lives.

Are you sure they didn't know? There were two drones parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Somebody knew.

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood show why they are worthless lying scum who cannot be believed about anything when they make up such obvious lies like YOUR drone lie and show no SHAME in lying. Lying is the Holy Eucharist of the hate religion of CON$ervatism!!!

The first drone was not diverted from another part of Libya until 2 1/2 hours into the attack. It then has to fly to the scene once it is diverted. The second drone was not dispatched until 4 1/4 hours after the first drone was diverted and only was at the Annex for the last hour. To worthless lying America-hating scum that means 2 drones were parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired, and that is the smallest lie the GOP lying scum told!

All the GOP CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can do is lie, which they willingly do because their followers have no respect for truth.

Military response to Benghazi attack questioned - CBS News

Two and a half hours after the attack began, an unarmed predator drone was diverted from a surveillance mission over another part of Libya to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over.

 

[mex]

keep skating

 

[saveliberty]

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood show why they are worthless lying scum who cannot be believed about anything when they make up such obvious lies like YOUR drone lie and show no SHAME in lying. Lying is the Holy Eucharist of the hate religion of CON$ervatism!!!

The first drone was not diverted from another part of Libya until 2 1/2 hours into the attack. It then has to fly to the scene once it is diverted. The second drone was not dispatched until 4 1/4 hours after the first drone was diverted and only was at the Annex for the last hour. To worthless lying America-hating scum that means 2 drones were parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired, and that is the smallest lie the GOP lying scum told!

All the GOP CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can do is lie, which they willingly do because their followers have no respect for truth.

Military response to Benghazi attack questioned - CBS News

Two and a half hours after the attack began, an unarmed predator drone was diverted from a surveillance mission over another part of Libya to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over.

^^^
Your basic Hail Mary Pass

 

[mex]

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood show why they are worthless lying scum who cannot be believed about anything when they make up such obvious lies like YOUR drone lie and show no SHAME in lying. Lying is the Holy Eucharist of the hate religion of CON$ervatism!!!

The first drone was not diverted from another part of Libya until 2 1/2 hours into the attack. It then has to fly to the scene once it is diverted. The second drone was not dispatched until 4 1/4 hours after the first drone was diverted and only was at the Annex for the last hour. To worthless lying America-hating scum that means 2 drones were parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired, and that is the smallest lie the GOP lying scum told!

All the GOP CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can do is lie, which they willingly do because their followers have no respect for truth.

Military response to Benghazi attack questioned - CBS News

Two and a half hours after the attack began, an unarmed predator drone was diverted from a surveillance mission over another part of Libya to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over.

^^^
Your basic Hail Mary Pass

that never made it past the line of scrimmage

 

[BluePhantom]

And for those that question the source etc....ok, fine, but, so lets go this route-

who here believes that anyone in that compound and/or annex would NOT have asked for help?

Well who believes:

a) That they would not have asked for help

b) That there would be an attack on our consulate and Obama would not be immediately notified

c) That upon being notified he would not immediately be summoned to the situation room to get real time information

d) That the CIA lacked the ability to communicate with Washington during the attack.

No one in their right mind would believe any of that. We know emails were being sent during the attack. Obama would have been the very first person called in as Commander in Chief because he is the only one who can decide how to respond. Measures for this are in place. Whether in the Oval Office, on Air Force One, or standing on the 7th green there is someone there with apparatus that enables him to immediately communicate with commanders, State Department, DoD...whoever.

We had drones in the air feeding live video, and Obama and the Secretary of defense would have been in constant communication with the military leadership in the area.

There is simply no reasonable argument to be made that Obama was unaware of what was going on. The fact that no assistance was sent demonstrates conclusively that Obama simply chose not to send it because he is the only one who can make that decision. Had he ordered special forces to be deployed, their boots would have been on the ground within 90 minutes at the latest. He simply chose not to send them....end of story.

 

[edthecynic]

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood show why they are worthless lying scum who cannot be believed about anything when they make up such obvious lies like YOUR drone lie and show no SHAME in lying. Lying is the Holy Eucharist of the hate religion of CON$ervatism!!!

The first drone was not diverted from another part of Libya until 2 1/2 hours into the attack. It then has to fly to the scene once it is diverted. The second drone was not dispatched until 4 1/4 hours after the first drone was diverted and only was at the Annex for the last hour. To worthless lying America-hating scum that means 2 drones were parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired, and that is the smallest lie the GOP lying scum told!

All the GOP CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can do is lie, which they willingly do because their followers have no respect for truth.

Military response to Benghazi attack questioned - CBS News

Two and a half hours after the attack began, an unarmed predator drone was diverted from a surveillance mission over another part of Libya to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over.

^^^
Your basic Hail Mary Pass

Notice how the pathological liars try to cover for each other rather than admit that the lying shit stain Foxfyre was lying her ass off. Instead her fellow lying scum edited out her shameless and undeniable lie as if it never existed!

Here it is again to refresh your selective memory:

Are you sure they didn't know? There were two drones parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Somebody knew.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

And for those that question the source etc....ok, fine, but, so lets go this route-

who here believes that anyone in that compound and/or annex would NOT have asked for help?

Well who believes:

a) That they would not have asked for help

b) That there would be an attack on our consulate and Obama would not be immediately notified

c) That upon being notified he would not immediately be summoned to the situation room to get real time information

d) That the CIA lacked the ability to communicate with Washington during the attack.

No one in their right mind would believe any of that. We know emails were being sent during the attack. Obama would have been the very first person called in as Commander in Chief because he is the only one who can decide how to respond. Measures for this are in place. Whether in the Oval Office, on Air Force One, or standing on the 7th green there is someone there with apparatus that enables him to immediately communicate with commanders, State Department, DoD...whoever.

We had drones in the air feeding live video, and Obama and the Secretary of defense would have been in constant communication with the military leadership in the area.

There is simply no reasonable argument to be made that Obama was unaware of what was going on. The fact that no assistance was sent demonstrates conclusively that Obama simply chose not to send it because he is the only one who can make that decision. Had he ordered special forces to be deployed, their boots would have been on the ground within 90 minutes at the latest. He simply chose not to send them....end of story.

Obama was on the phone.

 

[boedicca]

What Obama did:

- Watched the live feeds of American citizens dying
- Ignored their pleas for help
- Went to sleep after they died
- Got up the next morning and headed to Las Vegas for a fund raiser

 

[MarcATL]

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood show why they are worthless lying scum who cannot be believed about anything when they make up such obvious lies like YOUR drone lie and show no SHAME in lying. Lying is the Holy Eucharist of the hate religion of CON$ervatism!!!

The first drone was not diverted from another part of Libya until 2 1/2 hours into the attack. It then has to fly to the scene once it is diverted. The second drone was not dispatched until 4 1/4 hours after the first drone was diverted and only was at the Annex for the last hour. To worthless lying America-hating scum that means 2 drones were parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired, and that is the smallest lie the GOP lying scum told!

All the GOP CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can do is lie, which they willingly do because their followers have no respect for truth.

Military response to Benghazi attack questioned - CBS News

Two and a half hours after the attack began, an unarmed predator drone was diverted from a surveillance mission over another part of Libya to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

That, plus a second unarmed drone dispatched four hours and 15 minutes later, were the only U.S. military forces sent to the scene of the attack. Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over.

^^^
Your basic Hail Mary Pass

Notice how the pathological liars try to cover for each other rather than admit that the lying shit stain Foxfyre was lying her ass off. Instead her fellow lying scum edited out her shameless and undeniable lie as if it never existed!

Here it is again to refresh your selective memory:

Are you sure they didn't know? There were two drones parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Somebody knew.

These RW bastards are lying as if it's going out of style.

 

[BluePhantom]

Notice how the pathological liars try to cover for each other rather than admit that the lying shit stain Foxfyre was lying her ass off. Instead her fellow lying scum edited out her shameless and undeniable lie as if it never existed!

Here it is again to refresh your selective memory:

Are you sure they didn't know? There were two drones parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Somebody knew.

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

 

[BluePhantom]

Obama was on the phone.

Pfft....I know why Obama refuses to talk about the Benghazi issue....because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

 

[edthecynic]

What Obama did:

- Watched the live feeds of American citizens dying
- Ignored their pleas for help
- Went to sleep after they died
- Got up the next morning and headed to Las Vegas for a fund raiser

Again another example of how once the lying scum CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood sink their teeth into a premeditated lie they keep exaggerating their lie every time their lie is exposed.

 

[MarcATL]

What Obama did:

- Watched the live feeds of American citizens dying
- Ignored their pleas for help
- Went to sleep after they died
- Got up the next morning and headed to Las Vegas for a fund raiser

Again another example of how once the lying scum CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood sink their teeth into a premeditated lie they keep exaggerating their lie every time their lie is exposed.

The lies of these RW Republican bastards know no bounds. Like I said...

Stop the presses! This just in: Obama PERSONALLY Killed Ambassador Chris Stephens!

 

[boedicca]

When the MSM refuse to inquire into something the Obama Admin has done, it's a sure bet they are covering up something disgusting.

 

[Serioususername]

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

...What? There's no possible way a Predator is that quick, it's max speed isn't even 200 MPH.

You're thinking more along the lines of the Reaper methinks.

 

[edthecynic]

Notice how the pathological liars try to cover for each other rather than admit that the lying shit stain Foxfyre was lying her ass off. Instead her fellow lying scum edited out her shameless and undeniable lie as if it never existed!

Here it is again to refresh your selective memory:

Are you sure they didn't know? There were two drones parked over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Somebody knew.

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

Now matter how fast the drone can fly, it can't fly fast enough to travel back in time!!! Notice how these lying scum continue to defend their fellow lying scum when one of them is caught in an obvious lie. The lying shit stain said there were TWO (2) drones over the scene from the time the first shot was fired. Any claim that there was a live feed to the situation room comes from the same lying scum and carries the same credibility.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

...What? There's no possible way a Predator is that quick, it's max speed isn't even 200 MPH.

You're thinking more along the lines of the Reaper methinks.

maybe the drone was there all along to spy on Stevens since his views were at odds with Obama's on the shipment of arms
after all this was not an ambassadors complex...it was a CIA complex. loaded with surface to air missiles and rpg's

 

[edthecynic]

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

...What? There's no possible way a Predator is that quick, it's max speed isn't even 200 MPH.

You're thinking more along the lines of the Reaper methinks.

maybe the drone was there all along to spy on Stevens since his views were at odds with Obama's on the shipment of arms
after all this was not an ambassadors complex...it was a CIA complex. loaded with surface to air missiles and rpg's

Again, the lying scum CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood will just make shit up rather than admit one of their fellow lying pieces of shit got caught in a lie. The craziest tin foil hat conspiracy theory is all it takes for them to reject the truth!

 

[MarcATL]

Obama put a hit out on Ambassador Stephens because he was sleeping with his wife.

Iths thimple.

 

[BluePhantom]

Dude......do you know how fast a predator drone flies? A predator UAV can hit 460 mph unclassified speed (which means in reality it can exceed that speed)...even if it was completely on the other side of the country it would have been there in about an hour max feeding real time video right to the situation room. Hell you can stream real time video of yourself jacking off in the shower over a cell phone...you think a fucking predator can't?

Unreal

...What? There's no possible way a Predator is that quick, it's max speed isn't even 200 MPH.

You're thinking more along the lines of the Reaper methinks.

A Predator C is jet powered. An MQ-1 is far slower. A Predator B is faster than the MQ-1. Just depends on what variant you are referring to....and a Reaper is a Predator.....it's a Predator B.

DailyTech - Air Force Debuts New Jet-powered UAV