Climate Change Deniers Are Lying

[cnm]

Exactly WHAT are climate skeptics "lying about" as this thread implies?

Leftist plans by climate scientists for one thing.

 

[cnm]

Obviously a lot of scientists at the EPA don't know the diff.

So, no names eh?

Oh well.

 

[Old Rocks]

At this point, 'leftist plans' are all they have now. Most of the leaders of the Christian Denominations are behind the push the reduce emissions and mitigate the effects of the present GHG load. Most of the world leaders now publically recognize that the changes we are seeing in the climate are the result of the GHGs that we have put into the atmosphere. What they can do about it is dependent on the support they can get from their citizens.

In the meantime, the very wealthy corperations are seeing their money tree dry up, and are using the same tactics as the tobacco companies. Remember the 7 CEO's of the tobacco companies sitting in front of Congress and swearing under oath that nicotine was not addictive? That is the morality of the mega-corporations.

 

[flacaltenn]

Obviously a lot of scientists at the EPA don't know the diff.

So, no names eh?

Oh well.

Do I need names???? The EPA has spoken.. I would assume on the advice of their scientists. Or maybe ----- they are just blowing smoke out their asses..

I don't think the EPA has a whole stable of world-reknown scientists. Could be wrong.

 

[flacaltenn]

Exactly WHAT are climate skeptics "lying about" as this thread implies?

Leftist plans by climate scientists for one thing.

Because I don't know you well and you get the benefit of the doubt that you actually giveashit...

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Program

Maurice Strong - Wikiquote

If we don't change, our species will not survive... Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse.
Maurice Strong, September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine
What if a small group of world leaders were to conclude that the principal risk to the Earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? The group's conclusion is 'no'. The rich countries won't do it. They won't change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?
Maurice Strong, Interview 1992, concerning the plot of a book he would like to write[1]
It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the imperatives of global environmental cooperation.
Maurice Strong, 1992 essay entitled Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation[specific citation needed]
"Our concepts of ballot-box democracy may need to be modified to produce strong governments capable of making difficult decisions." [2]

Is that a good start? Want another???

 

[flacaltenn]

Exactly WHAT are climate skeptics "lying about" as this thread implies?

Leftist plans by climate scientists for one thing.

Here's another.. I leave it to you to go read the link and see who Edenhofer is...

Climate Talks or Wealth Redistribution Talks

NZZ: De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.

Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.


Still fuzzy on the concept? It's not a conspiracy theory or a lie.. It's right in your face..

 

[WelfareQueen]

The 'settled science' is the consensus that human activity emitted greenhouse gases are the primary driver of climate change.

Climate change is caused by many things. The variables are nearly endless. To suggest CO2 is the primary driver of daily changes in climate is ridiculous.

Climate changes due to changes in atmospheric pressure....or due to changes in ocean currents as two specific examples.

 

[cnm]

Do I need names????

Yes. You imply climate scientists are taking part in a campaign to confuse pollution with AGWarming and confuse carbon with carbon dioxide. So who are they?

 

[cnm]

Is that a good start? Want another???

It's complete crap, Maurice Strong is not a climate scientist.

 

[cnm]

Still fuzzy on the concept? It's not a conspiracy theory or a lie.. It's right in your face..

Edenhofer is an economist, not a climate scientist.

 

[cnm]

Climate change is caused by many things. The variables are nearly endless. To suggest CO2 is the primary driver of daily changes in climate is ridiculous. .

'Human activity emitted greenhouse gases'. Yes, we know you deny the scientific consensus, you are a flat earther denier who cannot be told by the scientists you believe and use for every other category.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Interesting the club of Rome...


The Political Agenda Behind Man-Made Global Warming

s.Taxing CO2 production on a worldwide scale, and the establishment of a new, privately owned international bank to handle these taxes, seems to be one of the major tools they plan to use in order to achieve this goal of global financial and political control.

[The global governance plan that the Club of Rome promotes, the plan that is currently being promoted by the UN, is mainly in the interests of the top several hundred or a few thousand of the wealthiest people on earth.

 

[cnm]

Any climate scientists there?

 

[Wyatt earp]

More.....

• David de Rothschild
  

We see that a junior member of the Rothschild clan and one of the heirs to the vast Rothschild banking and investment fortune, David de Rothschild is very activein promoting the cause of "man-made climate change", as well as having several investments that are intended to profit from this movement. An internet search will find many articles about his connection to the movement. For example, he was very much involved with the mass propaganda event, the Live Earth Concert of 2007 and wrote "The Live Earth Global Warming Survival Handbook".
The following short video clip shows him at the time of the 2009 Copenhagen Conference mentioning the difficulty of instituting the "global governance agenda" relating to a worldwide CO2taxation scheme at Copenhagen:.

Below is a four-part video showing David de Rothschild giving a talk at a company called Climate Change Capital.

 

[IanC]

If people contrasted the sane AGW-lite version of climate science with the catastrophic version of the warmers, I think many others would also agree.

Which climate scientists are 'catastrophic warmers'?

James Hansen, former head of GISS, who was an integral part of transforming global temperature datasets into the distortions of the present, for one. When he wasn't out protesting global warming and collecting cash prizes and awards from environmental groups.

 

[flacaltenn]

Still fuzzy on the concept? It's not a conspiracy theory or a lie.. It's right in your face..

Edenhofer is an economist, not a climate scientist.

Edenhofer is a lead author with the UN IPCC -- The whole IPCC show is managed and driven by non-climate-scientists. Without the socio-economic leaders of the IPCC there would be NO UN Climate Change program. The scientists are hired help and SELECTED to support the UN mission of studying ONLY the MAN-MADE causes of Global Warming --- look it up..

The prez chief science advisor CONTINUOUSLY mangles carbon and CO2 because that's what he's been to do.. look it up..

I'm sure the Chief Tribal Witchdoctor James Hansen has CONTINUOUSLY on purpose confused Carbon with CO2.. Same with Michael Mann. Know who these scientists are????

 

[hadit]

Who denies climate change? Now, if you want to talk about man caused global warming, that's the real issue. This "climate change" malarkey is just a bunch of hot air (see what I did there?).

 

[flacaltenn]

If people contrasted the sane AGW-lite version of climate science with the catastrophic version of the warmers, I think many others would also agree.

Which climate scientists are 'catastrophic warmers'?

James Hansen, former head of GISS, who was an integral part of transforming global temperature datasets into the distortions of the present, for one. When he wasn't out protesting global warming and collecting cash prizes and awards from environmental groups.

Exactly ---- CNM needs to understand how the politcians and eco-frauds leading the movement are given cover by complicit "superstar" scientists.

Here's a prime example. With WitchDoctor Hansen putting his name as lead author..

PLOS ONE Assessing Dangerous Climate Change Required Reduction of Carbon Emissions to Protect Young People Future Generations and Nature

Abstract

We assess climate impacts of global warming using ongoing observations and paleoclimate data. We use Earth’s measured energy imbalance, paleoclimate data, and simple representations of the global carbon cycle and temperature to define emission reductions needed to stabilize climate and avoid potentially disastrous impacts on today’s young people, future generations, and nature. A cumulative industrial-era limit of ~500 GtC fossil fuel emissions and 100 GtC storage in the biosphere and soil would keep climate close to the Holocene range to which humanity and other species are adapted. Cumulative emissions of ~1000 GtC, sometimes associated with 2°C global warming, would spur “slow” feedbacks and eventual warming of 3–4°C with disastrous consequences. Rapid emissions reduction is required to restore Earth’s energy balance and avoid ocean heat uptake that would practically guarantee irreversible effects. Continuation of high fossil fuel emissions, given current knowledge of the consequences, would be an act of extraordinary witting intergenerational injustice. Responsible policymaking requires a rising price on carbon emissions that would preclude emissions from most remaining coal and unconventional fossil fuels and phase down emissions from conventional fossil fuels.

Note the conversion of CO2 molecular weight to a CARBON weight. Done ON PURPOSE to allow the warmists to confuse Carbon emissions to CO2 emissions.

That's all the "scientific" justification they need to intentionally confuse the public. Now Carbon emissions is the same thing as CO2... It's well orchestrated propaganda with the lead star scientists giving cover to the lies..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

More.....

• David de Rothschild

We see that a junior member of the Rothschild clan and one of the heirs to the vast Rothschild banking and investment fortune, David de Rothschild is very activein promoting the cause of "man-made climate change", as well as having several investments that are intended to profit from this movement. An internet search will find many articles about his connection to the movement. For example, he was very much involved with the mass propaganda event, the Live Earth Concert of 2007 and wrote "The Live Earth Global Warming Survival Handbook".
The following short video clip shows him at the time of the 2009 Copenhagen Conference mentioning the difficulty of instituting the "global governance agenda" relating to a worldwide CO2taxation scheme at Copenhagen:.

Below is a four-part video showing David de Rothschild giving a talk at a company called Climate Change Capital.

Big money driving the AGWCult

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Still fuzzy on the concept? It's not a conspiracy theory or a lie.. It's right in your face..

Edenhofer is an economist, not a climate scientist.

Yea, not even Crick tries that one anymore