Conservatives in Congress Introduce Legislation to End NFL Subsidies Following Protests

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nah! They're in stadiums packed with tens of thousands of people. Millions more watching on TV. They've already got attention. If you ignore them, you accept them. That can't be allowed to happen.

I accept their right to do it. That should be allowed to happen because of the Constitution.

It has nothing to do with the Constitution. The Constitution doesn't apply to private industry when it comes to freedom of speech.

/—-/ When I went to work at Verizon Wireless, I was handed a list of banned topics for discussion on or off the job (meaning if you met friends after work a time a party or bar) included on the list was any discussion of politics, religion, current events except the weather and most of all American sports that would alienate recent immigrants who don’t understand football.

How many of us would like to walk into work and tell our boss to go F himself? If we did that, we would get fired. The Constitution does not protect freedom of speech outside of government.

Protesting police brutality and racial injustice is not telling the boss to go f himself. And again, there is a coactive bargaining agreement between payers and ownership that is legally binding and gives players rights that was agreed to by ownership that they must follow for a legally specified time frame. I believe this agreement ends in 2021 so if owners want players to be required to stand for the anthem they must present this to the players union and have the players association agree with their demands by a players vote..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your job cannot stop you from doing anything while off work. So if you followed those rules you are a fool. I would have quit if I got a list of things telling me what I can't talk about when I'm not working.

I guess you never heard of drug testing on the job?????

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A police officer can use deadly force to protect himself or the public. If any case exists where an officer used deadly force otherwise, he will be held responsible for his actions.

The police have used this excuse to murder people for years. Again they are just killing with no threat that is obvious. These acts are caught on tale and the cops have generally not been held responsible. We need to quit making this excuse.

Then show me one case where that happened.....with the video you speak of; a case where an officer shot a suspect for no reason whatsoever, and was not held accountable.

No. I'm tired of you bitches wanting someone to show you shit that everyone knows has happened just because your bitch asses want to support wrong. And there are videos. Go look at the Walter Scott murder. The Garner murder. The Philando Castile murder. The Samuel Dubose murder. The John Crawford murder..The Alton Sterling murder. And the Tamir Rice murder just to name a few. Holding accountable means a real jury trial. Not paid leave for a bogus investigation.

Well let's take them one at a time. Pick your poison.

I don't know about all those cases, but being from Cleveland, I am familiar with the Rice shooting. The kid was pulling out a realistic looking gun and the officer fired. He was held for a grand jury and found not-guilty of any crime. Here are the two guns side by side: a real one, and the one Rice had:

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As for Garner, once again, a black guy that feels he doesn't need to respect the law. His death was caused by his poor physical condition and deadly force was not used. The officer was simply trying to arrest him.

Bullshit. In the Tamir Rice case the officer got out of his car shooting. He did not stand a real jury trial. In the Garner case the police used a banned procedure that killed him and he was doing nothing to be arrested for. Poor physical condition had nothing to do with this. That was not the ruling of the Medical examiner.

The move was not police procedure for that department but that doesn't mean he did anything illegal. The guy was huge and the officer did whatever he could to bring him down.

When the officer got out of his car, that's when Rice started to pull the gun out of his pants. The police used the video to show step-by-step what took place. No, he did not stand a real jury trial. To have a jury trial, you have to be charged with something. The Grand Jury ruled there was nothing there to charge the officer with. He acted in complete self-defense.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well let's take them one at a time. Pick your poison.

I don't know about all those cases, but being from Cleveland, I am familiar with the Rice shooting. The kid was pulling out a realistic looking gun and the officer fired. He was held for a grand jury and found not-guilty of any crime. Here are the two guns side by side: a real one, and the one Rice had:

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As for Garner, once again, a black guy that feels he doesn't need to respect the law. His death was caused by his poor physical condition and deadly force was not used. The officer was simply trying to arrest him.

The police arrived, jumped out, & killed a kid with a toy gun. What the fuck is wrong with you that you think that is right. How about assessing the situation?

A guy is standing outside a store, doing nothing, the cops kill him. Hey that's OK.

/—-/ what guy standing outside the store?

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
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He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

 

[protectionist]

He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Another Trump smear-lie. Trump only got a loan of $ ONE Million in the mid-70s, from his father, and paid it all back. He actually could have gotten h loan from bank.

He did not go bankrupt (Chapter 7). He filed Chapter 11, which is a reorganization, and even this was a drop in the bucket of all his business dealings (99% success)

 

[IM2]

Your job cannot stop you from doing anything while off work. So if you followed those rules you are a fool. I would have quit if I got a list of things telling me what I can't talk about when I'm not working.

I guess you never heard of drug testing on the job?????

And I guess you have never heard of a collective bargaining agreement.

 

[protectionist]

And I guess you have never heard of a collective bargaining agreement.

All this is moot. It is asinine for the players to directly insult the county and its national anthem by kneeling, and then insult the intelligence of everyone by claiming it has nothing to do with the national anthem..

Oh no! It's just a coincidence that every time the knuckleheads kneel, the national anthem happens to be playing. Right ? Right ? Right ?

 

[IM2]

The police arrived, jumped out, & killed a kid with a toy gun. What the fuck is wrong with you that you think that is right. How about assessing the situation?

A guy is standing outside a store, doing nothing, the cops kill him. Hey that's OK.

/—-/ what guy standing outside the store?

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
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He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

 

[IM2]

And I guess you have never heard of a collective bargaining agreement.

All this is moot. It is asinine for the players to directly insult the county and its national anthem by kneeling, and then insult the intelligence of everyone by claiming it has nothing to do with the national anthem..

Oh no! It's just a coincidence that every time the knuckleheads kneel, the national anthem happens to be playing. Right ? Right ? Right ?

There is nothing moot about it. This country has insulted them by the way people like them and others looking like them have been treated. The protest is not about the anthem.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The protest is not about the anthem.

Then why protest during it????

 

[Cellblock2429]

He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Another Trump smear-lie. Trump only got a loan of $ ONE Million in the mid-70s, from his father, and paid it all back. He actually could have gotten h loan from bank.

He did not go bankrupt (Chapter 7). He filed Chapter 11, which is a reorganization, and even this was a drop in the bucket of all his business dealings (99% success)

/—-/ Liberals probably know all of that but choose to twist and distort so they can bash Trump.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The NFL Kneelers are dumb racist who are being exploited by left wing demagogue pundits and politicians

Race has nothing to do with it. They kneel for the National Anthem yet don't do shit off the football field for their cause save for a few. It's all vanity more than race.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/—-/ what guy standing outside the store?

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
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He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

/—-/ Trump was not handed a $500 million company. Sure he had help but he broke away from his family business in Queens and took s chance in Manhattan

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

/—-/ what guy standing outside the store?

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
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He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

But news reports show that it’s a bit of a mystery how much Trump inherited from his father, Fred Sr. When he died in 1999, the New York Times reported that "his estate has been estimated by the family at $250 million to $300 million." The New York Daily News reported at the time that the estate was worth $100 million to $300 million based on family estimates.

But how was it divvied up? That’s something that reporters have tried to sort out during the 2016 race.

The New York Times reported Jan. 2 that Fred Sr.’s will "divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.’ "

A National Journal writer, S.V. Dáte, estimated Trump started with $40 million in 1974 when he became president of his father’s real estate company. By one estimate, the firm was worth about $200 million. Divided among Donald Trump and his four siblings, each would have received $40 million.

Did Donald Trump inherit $100 million?

 

[IM2]

He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Another Trump smear-lie. Trump only got a loan of $ ONE Million in the mid-70s, from his father, and paid it all back. He actually could have gotten h loan from bank.

He did not go bankrupt (Chapter 7). He filed Chapter 11, which is a reorganization, and even this was a drop in the bucket of all his business dealings (99% success)

Trump’s false claim he built his empire with a ‘small loan’ from his father

Trump’s false claim he built his empire with a ‘small loan’ from his father

As far as we can determine, the assets distributed to Fred C. Trump’s descendants before and after his death in 1999 has not been revealed. The Daily News in 2000 cited family estimates that his estate was worth $100 million to $300 million but The New York Times recently found documents in Queens Surrogate Court that show that Fred Trump, in his will, divided $20 million among his four surviving children, among other distributions after estate taxes. (The will was contested by the children of his oldest son, Fred C. Trump Jr., who had passed away.)

Trump’s father, like most wealthy individuals, also set up trusts before he died. Donald Trump admitted in a 2007 deposition that he borrowed at least $9 million from his future inheritance when he encountered financial difficulties. The documents (appended at the end of this article) suggest some property—worth, after expenses, about $30 million–was kept in trust after Fred Trump’s death to provide income to his wife, who died in 2000. So that also was presumably divided by the children after her death.

Moreover, Trump’s claim that he built a real-estate fortune out of a “small” $1 million loan is simply not credible. He benefited from numerous loans and loan guarantees, as well as his father’s connections, to make the move into Manhattan. His father also set up lucrative trusts to provide steady income. When Donald Trump became overextended in the casino business, his father bailed him out with a shady casino-chip loan—and Trump also borrowed $9 million against his future inheritance. While Trump asserts “it has not been easy for me,” he glosses over the fact that his father paved the way for his success — and that his father bailed him out when he got into trouble.

 

[Cellblock2429]

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
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He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

But news reports show that it’s a bit of a mystery how much Trump inherited from his father, Fred Sr. When he died in 1999, the New York Times reported that "his estate has been estimated by the family at $250 million to $300 million." The New York Daily News reported at the time that the estate was worth $100 million to $300 million based on family estimates.

But how was it divvied up? That’s something that reporters have tried to sort out during the 2016 race.

The New York Times reported Jan. 2 that Fred Sr.’s will "divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.’ "

A National Journal writer, S.V. Dáte, estimated Trump started with $40 million in 1974 when he became president of his father’s real estate company. By one estimate, the firm was worth about $200 million. Divided among Donald Trump and his four siblings, each would have received $40 million.

Did Donald Trump inherit $100 million?

/—-/ Ever notice the Libtards have no problem with the Kennedy or Rockefeller boys inheriting a fortune? and will they trash Chelsea when’s she inherits her parents fortune?

 

[IM2]

MY God you are as fucking stupid as Trump.

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
View attachment 157253 View attachment 157254 View attachment 157255

He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

/—-/ Trump was not handed a $500 million company. Sure he had help but he broke away from his family business in Queens and took s chance in Manhattan

Not so.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your job cannot stop you from doing anything while off work. So if you followed those rules you are a fool. I would have quit if I got a list of things telling me what I can't talk about when I'm not working.

I guess you never heard of drug testing on the job?????

And I guess you have never heard of a collective bargaining agreement.

I guess you never head that companies get a discount on their workman's compensation insurance if they have a drug testing program in their company.

 

[jillian]

It was bound to happen. NFL owners should have fired these overpaid loudmouths before they wound up costing the owners millions$$$. Now the owners will lose millions$$$ in subsidies, that are offered when NFL teams build or refurbish their stadiums.

Republican Congressman Steve Russell of Oklahoma is a highly decorated 21-year combat veteran who lost comrades in deployments overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait. He knows firsthand the sacrifices veterans have made for his country.

He, like many other Republican Congressmen, believe the current NFL protests, begun last year by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, have crossed the line in terms of lack of patriotism among spoiled football players. To that end, Russthe ell has introduced legislation that would end federal subsidies for the NFL.

Also, legislation, to do the same, is being introduced by Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz, who is now lead sponsor of the Pro Sports Act, which was introduced by former Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz,.

So NFL owners will lose Billions$$ because they couldn't (or wouldn't) control their bigmouth players .Should have gotten rid of these dopes before they caused all he trouble.

Trump calls for end to NFL tax breaks -- bill already in place!

Conservatives in Congress Introduce Legislation to End NFL Subsidies Following Protests

one nut bar isn't "republicans". and what do the sacrifices of the military have to do with prohibiting free speech unless you're an angry white male?

and why are we "subsidizing" rich football owners anyway?

you know Donald is only whining about this and trying to hurt the
NFL because they thought he was too pathetic to own a team

 

[IM2]

You mean he also has Billions of $$ of real estate wealth, a large private jet, nice family, starred I a TV show, and got himself elected POTUS. ?
View attachment 157253 View attachment 157254 View attachment 157255

He probably means Trump was handed daddys 500 million dollar business and went bankrupt a record number of times.

Good thing he was handed it not you...

I'd be Bill Gates rich if I was handed a 500 million dollar business.

But news reports show that it’s a bit of a mystery how much Trump inherited from his father, Fred Sr. When he died in 1999, the New York Times reported that "his estate has been estimated by the family at $250 million to $300 million." The New York Daily News reported at the time that the estate was worth $100 million to $300 million based on family estimates.

But how was it divvied up? That’s something that reporters have tried to sort out during the 2016 race.

The New York Times reported Jan. 2 that Fred Sr.’s will "divided the bulk of the inheritance, at least $20 million, among his children and their descendants, ‘other than my son Fred C. Trump Jr.’ "

A National Journal writer, S.V. Dáte, estimated Trump started with $40 million in 1974 when he became president of his father’s real estate company. By one estimate, the firm was worth about $200 million. Divided among Donald Trump and his four siblings, each would have received $40 million.

Did Donald Trump inherit $100 million?

/—-/ Ever notice the Libtards have no problem with the Kennedy or Rockefeller boys inheriting a fortune?

And what does this have to do with anything?

You guys are the ones touting the supposed business building of Trump as some kind of claim of how he knows how to create jobs. A Kennedy has not been president since JFK and a Rockefeller has never been president.