Constitutional Right To Peacefully Assemble Latest 'Victim' of Govt COVID-19 Crackdown

[Pogo]

Govt flexes muscle to show citizens / Constitution / Founding Fathers who's 'Boss'....



One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest “Non-Essential Activity”

'Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation of an executive order by Governor Roy Cooper (D) prohibiting mass gatherings.'

What is considered 'non-essential activity' by the government is a right protected by the Constitution from a government who seeks to quell all peaceful assemblies...

Add this one to the list of Constitutional Rights - like exercise of religious freedom - being trampled in the name of 'preventing the spread of CPVID-19'.

One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest "Non-Essential Activity"

Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Here's what y'all infectophiles keep missing.

-- What's the adverb before the word "assemble"? "Peacefully".

Therefore an assembly of, say, a lynch mob would be an assembly but not a "peaceful" one, agreed?

Whelp, same for a congregation that huddles together despite a known contagious infection going around. One uses a rope, the other uses a virus.

Think about it.

I thought about it...and it's stupid.

I did not ignore the word 'peacefully' at all.

You are trying to compare a racist lynch mob with Americans being forced to stay at home, denied their rights to exercise their freedom of religion, and denied their right to peacefully assemble.

Yeah, I am pretty sure Pogo knows what a false equivalency is, he is just being retarded to push a political agenda.

Intellectual sloth. My favourite thing.

Read post 11 and try to refute it. The OP can't do it; all he can come up with is nervous laughter.

serious man - when was the last time you were outside? i mean even long before our isolation of today?

i have to think you're the person at work who people just nod at and suddenly their desk phone rings and they have to dismiss the rest of your conversation. only, you never seem to realize that EVERY TIME YOU GO UP to someone's cube, they get a phone call soon after.

it's the rest of your team covering for each other. everyone knows they could be next to have to sit and listen to you so they save each other from your inane inaneness by calling the unfortunate soul you happen to be verbally torturing to save them from you.

watch out for it. i hate to rat out your co-workers carefully plotted system, but maybe it's you doing the nervous laughter in the corner.

That was a bizarre hallucination what with all the cubism, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't touch my point about assembling "peaceably" at all. That not-touching of the point is pretty popular in this thread.

i'm pretty sure no one but you has ever touched your point.

kinda my point.

I guess that's why I put them out there. They're untouchable.
QED here.

 

[iceberg]

If only we could see the Covid-19 virus as well as we can see second hand smoke........ then we could just ban the people who expose others to it.

hell if we're gonna pull useless shit out of our ass, lets just say covid19 doesn't exist anymore and let the fairy godmother go grant more wishes elsewhere.

 

[HenryBHough]

When stupidity is made a capital offense we might get our constitutional rights back.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Is anyone getting tired of this rightwing whine fest about "shut downs" and "constitutional rights"?

Oh, honey.

Did you read what you typed?

Since when has expressing concern about constitutional rights become a bad thing?

Are you sure you are a liberal?

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[Mac-7]

Govt flexes muscle to show citizens / Constitution / Founding Fathers who's 'Boss'....



One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest “Non-Essential Activity”

'Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation of an executive order by Governor Roy Cooper (D) prohibiting mass gatherings.'

What is considered 'non-essential activity' by the government is a right protected by the Constitution from a government who seeks to quell all peaceful assemblies...

Add this one to the list of Constitutional Rights - like exercise of religious freedom - being trampled in the name of 'preventing the spread of CPVID-19'.

One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest "Non-Essential Activity"

Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Raleigh is a liberal democrat dominated city

of course the libs in charge are going to push their weight around

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Benjamin Franklin - Liberty and Safety

As to the other two acts, the Massachusetts must suffer all the hazards and mischiefs of war rather than admit the alteration of their charters and laws by Parliament. ‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Raleigh is a liberal democrat dominated city

of course the libs in charge are going to push their weight around

Funny how the word has come to mean anything BUT liberal.

.

 

[Pogo]

Is anyone getting tired of this rightwing whine fest about "shut downs" and "constitutional rights"?

The shut down sucks, but the whining (and I'm not talking about job loss, a valid complaint) but the whining about not being able to get together in large groups is pretty shallow.

Quarantine is nothing new. Restricting large gatherings is during an epidemic is nothing new. But this level of whining is.

Anyone over 70 probably remembers quarantine during the polio outbreaks...

“But absolutely, when coronavirus hit, the first thing I thought of were those summers in the 1940s, how you couldn’t go to pools, you couldn’t go to the movies, you just stayed home,” says Gray, who as a child lived in Kansas City. “When I was in high school, a wonderful young man got polio. It was just so terrifying for us.”

maybe. maybe people are pretty shallow. but if people have legitimate questions about what we're being told vs. seeing, calling them shallow for asking is simply another form of shaming. you don't believe it, i will call you names.

and while a quarantine may be nothing new, i certainly have never seen an entire city do it; much less most of the world. to think people will sit and behave for an indefinite undefined period of time and not question why is simply unreasonable.

"Never seen it" of course is not the same as "never heard of it".

I alluded to this upthread but just in case anybody's too drowning in "Agenda 2030" and/or avoiding at all costs dabbling in what the word "peaceably" means, to know about this:

>> In an effort to boost morale for the war and also to sell bonds, the city of Philadelphia threw a parade that drew 200,000 people, despite warnings that the Spanish flu was spreading among the soldiers who were about to head off to World War I and would be in the parade.​

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That didn’t turn out to be a good idea. Days later, hospitals in the area were filled with patients suffering or dying from the Spanish flu. Weeks later, more than 4,500 people in the Philadelphia area died from the virus.​

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On the other side of the ledger, things were way different in St. Louis.​

​

After detecting its first cases of the Spanish flu in the community, St. Louis closed buildings such as schools, churches, courtrooms and libraries.​

​

Gatherings of more than 20 people were banned, work shifts were staggered and ridership on streetcars was limited.​

​

The social distancing precautions had a positive effect, as excess deaths in St. Louis were 347 per 100,000 people -- less than half the rate of Philadelphia.​

​

The "Spanish" flu was nothing to mess around with, since ultimately, an estimated 20 to 50 million people died after contracting the virus.​

​

With all the social distance efforts going on around the country, St. Louis -- even more than 100 years ago -- is proof why it can be so vital in saving lives. << --- 2 Cities Handled This Health Crisis Differently -- the Results Couldn't Have Been More Opposite​

 

[Astrostar]

Govt flexes muscle to show citizens / Constitution / Founding Fathers who's 'Boss'....



One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest “Non-Essential Activity”

'Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation of an executive order by Governor Roy Cooper (D) prohibiting mass gatherings.'

What is considered 'non-essential activity' by the government is a right protected by the Constitution from a government who seeks to quell all peaceful assemblies...

Add this one to the list of Constitutional Rights - like exercise of religious freedom - being trampled in the name of 'preventing the spread of CPVID-19'.

One Arrested as Raleigh, NC Police Suspend First Amendment; Declare Coronavirus Lockdown Protest "Non-Essential Activity"

Raleigh, North Carolina police suspended the First Amendment Tuesday, dispersing a protest against the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus lockdown and arresting one protester for failing to disperse. The police issued a statement declaring “Protesting is a non-essential activity” that was in violation...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

The Trumpanzee cult members just can't accept the fact that their "freedoms" end when they endanger the rest of us. But, then again, that's why they are Trumpanzees! Bigly!!!

 

[Mac-7]

Raleigh is a liberal democrat dominated city

of course the libs in charge are going to push their weight around

Funny how the word has come to mean anything BUT liberal.

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Liberal is an insult even among many liberals who prefer to call themselves progressive or moderates or non partisan

 

[easyt65]

The Trumpanzee cult members just can't accept the fact that their "freedoms" end when they endanger the rest of us. But, then again, that's why they are Trumpanzees! Bigly!!!

I am sure the Chicomms were using that same excuse as they welded recent protestors up in their homes to die....

 

[iceberg]

Is anyone getting tired of this rightwing whine fest about "shut downs" and "constitutional rights"?

The shut down sucks, but the whining (and I'm not talking about job loss, a valid complaint) but the whining about not being able to get together in large groups is pretty shallow.

Quarantine is nothing new. Restricting large gatherings is during an epidemic is nothing new. But this level of whining is.

Anyone over 70 probably remembers quarantine during the polio outbreaks...

“But absolutely, when coronavirus hit, the first thing I thought of were those summers in the 1940s, how you couldn’t go to pools, you couldn’t go to the movies, you just stayed home,” says Gray, who as a child lived in Kansas City. “When I was in high school, a wonderful young man got polio. It was just so terrifying for us.”

maybe. maybe people are pretty shallow. but if people have legitimate questions about what we're being told vs. seeing, calling them shallow for asking is simply another form of shaming. you don't believe it, i will call you names.

and while a quarantine may be nothing new, i certainly have never seen an entire city do it; much less most of the world. to think people will sit and behave for an indefinite undefined period of time and not question why is simply unreasonable.

"Never seen it" of course is not the same as "never heard of it".

I alluded to this upthread but just in case anybody's too drowning in "Agenda 2030" and/or avoiding at all costs dabbling in what the word "peaceably" means, to know about this:

>> In an effort to boost morale for the war and also to sell bonds, the city of Philadelphia threw a parade that drew 200,000 people, despite warnings that the Spanish flu was spreading among the soldiers who were about to head off to World War I and would be in the parade.​

​

That didn’t turn out to be a good idea. Days later, hospitals in the area were filled with patients suffering or dying from the Spanish flu. Weeks later, more than 4,500 people in the Philadelphia area died from the virus.​

​

On the other side of the ledger, things were way different in St. Louis.​

​

After detecting its first cases of the Spanish flu in the community, St. Louis closed buildings such as schools, churches, courtrooms and libraries.​

​

Gatherings of more than 20 people were banned, work shifts were staggered and ridership on streetcars was limited.​

​

The social distancing precautions had a positive effect, as excess deaths in St. Louis were 347 per 100,000 people -- less than half the rate of Philadelphia.​

​

The "Spanish" flu was nothing to mess around with, since ultimately, an estimated 20 to 50 million people died after contracting the virus.​

​

With all the social distance efforts going on around the country, St. Louis -- even more than 100 years ago -- is proof why it can be so vital in saving lives. << --- 2 Cities Handled This Health Crisis Differently -- the Results Couldn't Have Been More Opposite​

not sure what point you're trying to make but i am sure it's stupid and not in relation to what i said, but what argument you feel like slapping right now.

it LOOKS like you're saying this has happened before OF WHICH i never said it hasn't. i said I DO NOT RECALL LIVING IN A TIME where this was done.

so again - go fuck yourself. but do it 6' away from your ego if there's any room left.

 

[MisterBeale]

If only we could see the Covid-19 virus as well as we can see second hand smoke........ then we could just ban the people who expose others to it.

If only we could get Dr. Fauci to tell the truth and drive it home on National TEE VEE. . .

Is anyone getting tired of this rightwing whine fest about "shut downs" and "constitutional rights"?

The shut down sucks, but the whining (and I'm not talking about job loss, a valid complaint) but the whining about not being able to get together in large groups is pretty shallow.

Quarantine is nothing new. Restricting large gatherings is during an epidemic is nothing new. But this level of whining is.

Anyone over 70 probably remembers quarantine during the polio outbreaks...

“But absolutely, when coronavirus hit, the first thing I thought of were those summers in the 1940s, how you couldn’t go to pools, you couldn’t go to the movies, you just stayed home,” says Gray, who as a child lived in Kansas City. “When I was in high school, a wonderful young man got polio. It was just so terrifying for us.”

All I can think of is that these nutballs are honestly UNAWARE that there's an infectious pandemic going on, OR that they are aware but it's more important to "get muh name on the innerwebs". What a gaggle of sociopaths.

This isn't our first, it certainly won't be our last. We should be suspicious as to why it is being treated as such.

". . . .This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2. . . "

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?fbclid=IwAR2dEJYOp3V-jFePwYLT7oJZZDSTzfFkT6blOkGEtMGHYHo6aWFrh3dIqoc

Nothing should be used to abrogate the civil rights and civil liberties of the people.

 

[Desperado]

So tired of panicky germaphobe hypochondriacs making the rules for normal people. There are people out here who are not afraid of their own shadows

 

[Pogo]

Benjamin Franklin - Liberty and Safety

As to the other two acts, the Massachusetts must suffer all the hazards and mischiefs of war rather than admit the alteration of their charters and laws by Parliament. ‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’

More Franklin weasel-quoting out of its context. Franklin btw survived multiple smallpox epidemics and regretted for the rest of his life failing to have his son who died from it at the age of four, inoculated. Here's what he was talking about in this cherrypicked quote --- the State's right to tax an absentee landlord:

>> WITTES: He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it.​

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SIEGEL: So far from being a pro-privacy quotation, if anything, it's a pro-taxation and pro-defense spending quotation.​

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WITTES: It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it's almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means. << -- Franklin's "Liberty Safety" quote lost its context in the 21st century​

Context, m'boy.

 

[easyt65]

So tired of panicky germaphobe hypochondriacs making the rules for normal people. There are people out here who are not afraid of their own shadows

Libs are all about the minority (them) imposing their will on the majority.

 

[Pogo]

Is anyone getting tired of this rightwing whine fest about "shut downs" and "constitutional rights"?

The shut down sucks, but the whining (and I'm not talking about job loss, a valid complaint) but the whining about not being able to get together in large groups is pretty shallow.

Quarantine is nothing new. Restricting large gatherings is during an epidemic is nothing new. But this level of whining is.

Anyone over 70 probably remembers quarantine during the polio outbreaks...

“But absolutely, when coronavirus hit, the first thing I thought of were those summers in the 1940s, how you couldn’t go to pools, you couldn’t go to the movies, you just stayed home,” says Gray, who as a child lived in Kansas City. “When I was in high school, a wonderful young man got polio. It was just so terrifying for us.”

maybe. maybe people are pretty shallow. but if people have legitimate questions about what we're being told vs. seeing, calling them shallow for asking is simply another form of shaming. you don't believe it, i will call you names.

and while a quarantine may be nothing new, i certainly have never seen an entire city do it; much less most of the world. to think people will sit and behave for an indefinite undefined period of time and not question why is simply unreasonable.

"Never seen it" of course is not the same as "never heard of it".

I alluded to this upthread but just in case anybody's too drowning in "Agenda 2030" and/or avoiding at all costs dabbling in what the word "peaceably" means, to know about this:

>> In an effort to boost morale for the war and also to sell bonds, the city of Philadelphia threw a parade that drew 200,000 people, despite warnings that the Spanish flu was spreading among the soldiers who were about to head off to World War I and would be in the parade.​

​

That didn’t turn out to be a good idea. Days later, hospitals in the area were filled with patients suffering or dying from the Spanish flu. Weeks later, more than 4,500 people in the Philadelphia area died from the virus.​

​

On the other side of the ledger, things were way different in St. Louis.​

​

After detecting its first cases of the Spanish flu in the community, St. Louis closed buildings such as schools, churches, courtrooms and libraries.​

​

Gatherings of more than 20 people were banned, work shifts were staggered and ridership on streetcars was limited.​

​

The social distancing precautions had a positive effect, as excess deaths in St. Louis were 347 per 100,000 people -- less than half the rate of Philadelphia.​

​

The "Spanish" flu was nothing to mess around with, since ultimately, an estimated 20 to 50 million people died after contracting the virus.​

​

With all the social distance efforts going on around the country, St. Louis -- even more than 100 years ago -- is proof why it can be so vital in saving lives. << --- 2 Cities Handled This Health Crisis Differently -- the Results Couldn't Have Been More Opposite​

not sure what point you're trying to make but i am sure it's stupid and not in relation to what i said, but what argument you feel like slapping right now.

it LOOKS like you're saying this has happened before OF WHICH i never said it hasn't. i said I DO NOT RECALL LIVING IN A TIME where this was done.

so again - go fuck yourself. but do it 6' away from your ego if there's any room left.

Great, you've just informed us you're less than 102 years old. But it does smack of the old "if I haven't seen it, it doesn't exist" canard.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Trumpanzee cult members just can't accept the fact that their "freedoms" end when they endanger the rest of us. But, then again, that's why they are Trumpanzees! Bigly!!!

WRONG. You do not deserve liberty if you believe that shit

Individual liberty is limited ONLY by the equal liberty of others. See my signature quotes.

You need to get the fuck out of my country and go live where freedom doesn't matter.

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[Pogo]

Raleigh is a liberal democrat dominated city

of course the libs in charge are going to push their weight around

Funny how the word has come to mean anything BUT liberal.

"Funny" because the Cult of Ignance can't be bothered to learn what it actually means.

 

[Fueri]

Michigan did the same shit and has already backed off as soon as someone's lawyer dropped a suit. Right of assembly is protected. They're going to lose this one, IMO.