Democrats Get The Ball Rolling

[PredFan]

What exactly do you gunrights people want done with persons who are found to be possible future terrorists?

After due process, don't allow them to have or buy a gun.

Is the terror watchlist not due process?

No it isn't. And I have a whole lot of knowledgable people who agree. Including the ACLU:

Court Rules No Fly List Process Is Unconstitutional and Must Be Reformed

 

[PredFan]

What exactly do you gunrights people want done with persons who are found to be possible future terrorists?

After due process, don't allow them to have or buy a gun.

Is the terror watchlist not due process?

a secret list is now due process --LOL

no wonder you are so easily led by these clowns in office --LOL

If denying guns to a person on the terror watchlist is unconstitutional, then the suspected terrorist can challenge it in court.

That is what is known as guilty until proven innocent. It is due rocess when the government has to make a case BEFORE he or she is put on the list and denied the right to fly or own a gun.

 

[80zephyr]

Rahamm Emmanuel famously said: "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Too many of these horrible events have gone unaddressed. It's time.

Time for what?

-Geaux

For Republicans to do some work for the people. They've been sitting on their hands for too long. Also, why is Trump talking with the NRA? Last I knew they don't influence policy. They are the last ones who should be influencing policy.

The NRA represents over 5 million gun owners is one reason. Laws will not reduce or change a thing. The law effects the lawful, not the unlawful

-Geaux

How would you know, you all have been railing against any gun laws. The banning of automatic weapons and attending to that watch list are two significant ways to start.

"two significant ways to start". Freudian slip? With the left, this is a "start", and they will never stop, on anything ever. They will ban right down to B-B guns.

Nope.

Mark

 

[NYcarbineer]

i will take your lame post as your concession that you lost this one

you know it since this new idea would not have prevented the orlando shooting

It's just unreal the overt stupidity of liberals that they think you can fight terrorism with gun control. I would be embarassed to say something that mind numbingly ridiculous. Yet they shamelessly flaunt it.

We aren't fighting Muslim terrorism, just terrorists, we can't kill anyone around them even though most of them are working with and supporting them and our chief weapon will be ... gun control ... while we keep our southern border open ...

It's amazing they can stand behind that. What is clear is why Obama fights terrorism so ineffectively. As Trump said, the man doesn't have a clue

Why keep them off planes? Why keep a person off a plane because he might be terroristic?

I can't believe you are actually asking that question.

I can't believe you don't dare answer it.

I can easily answer it. Terrorists use planes for mass killings. You know that.

And they use guns for the same. You just created the equivalency. So much for your claims of a difference.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Wrong. Automatic weapons are already banned, and as far as the watch list goes? Do you lefties also hate due process?

How did the shooter own one legally then? However you identify the things, people don't need to own an automatic military grade weapon. He killed 50 people with a legal automatic rifle.

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Who died and left you in charge?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What exactly do you gunrights people want done with persons who are found to be possible future terrorists?

After due process, don't allow them to have or buy a gun.

Is the terror watchlist not due process?

a secret list is now due process --LOL

no wonder you are so easily led by these clowns in office --LOL

If denying guns to a person on the terror watchlist is unconstitutional, then the suspected terrorist can challenge it in court.

That is what is known as guilty until proven innocent. It is due rocess when the government has to make a case BEFORE he or she is put on the list and denied the right to fly or own a gun.

So now you agree that the no fly list is unconstitutional. Whew!

 

[PredFan]

The NRA represents over 5 million gun owners is one reason. Laws will not reduce or change a thing. The law effects the lawful, not the unlawful

-Geaux

How would you know, you all have been railing against any gun laws. The banning of automatic weapons and attending to that watch list are two significant ways to start.

Wrong. Automatic weapons are already banned, and as far as the watch list goes? Do you lefties also hate due process?

How did the shooter own one legally then? However you identify the things, people don't need to own an automatic military grade weapon. He killed 50 people with a legal automatic rifle.

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

I would, how is it helpful to the families to be lied to? There is a huge difference between the two.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How did the shooter own one legally then? However you identify the things, people don't need to own an automatic military grade weapon. He killed 50 people with a legal automatic rifle.

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Who died and left you in charge?

Ironic post of the month.

 

[PredFan]

Wrong. Automatic weapons are already banned, and as far as the watch list goes? Do you lefties also hate due process?

How did the shooter own one legally then? However you identify the things, people don't need to own an automatic military grade weapon. He killed 50 people with a legal automatic rifle.

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

 

[Brain357]

How did the shooter own one legally then? However you identify the things, people don't need to own an automatic military grade weapon. He killed 50 people with a legal automatic rifle.

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

We have all seen the results of a semi auto. 50 dead and 50 injured. We all know enough.

 

[PredFan]

It's just unreal the overt stupidity of liberals that they think you can fight terrorism with gun control. I would be embarassed to say something that mind numbingly ridiculous. Yet they shamelessly flaunt it.

We aren't fighting Muslim terrorism, just terrorists, we can't kill anyone around them even though most of them are working with and supporting them and our chief weapon will be ... gun control ... while we keep our southern border open ...

It's amazing they can stand behind that. What is clear is why Obama fights terrorism so ineffectively. As Trump said, the man doesn't have a clue

Why keep them off planes? Why keep a person off a plane because he might be terroristic?

I can't believe you are actually asking that question.

I can't believe you don't dare answer it.

I can easily answer it. Terrorists use planes for mass killings. You know that.

And they use guns for the same. You just created the equivalency. So much for your claims of a difference.

I never said they were different. You are just making shit up now. The way they do the watch list now is unconstitutional. It's wrong to use it to prevent flying, it's wrong to use it to prevent gun ownership. I am and have always been consistent on this.

If they allow due process before being placed on the list, then I have no problem with denying them both.

Is your fog lifting?

 

[80zephyr]

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

We have all seen the results of a semi auto. 50 dead and 50 injured. We all know enough.

Is 20 dead acceptable? If someone uses a pump shotgun with buckshot in a crowded venue and kills 20, would you call to ban that weapon as well?

How about 10? Is 10 too many?

Mark

 

[PredFan]

After due process, don't allow them to have or buy a gun.

Is the terror watchlist not due process?

a secret list is now due process --LOL

no wonder you are so easily led by these clowns in office --LOL

If denying guns to a person on the terror watchlist is unconstitutional, then the suspected terrorist can challenge it in court.

That is what is known as guilty until proven innocent. It is due rocess when the government has to make a case BEFORE he or she is put on the list and denied the right to fly or own a gun.

So now you agree that the no fly list is unconstitutional. Whew!

I always have, you are just confused as usual.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rahamm Emmanuel famously said: "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Too many of these horrible events have gone unaddressed. It's time.

Time for what?

-Geaux

Fascism.

 

[Camp]

The shooter did not have an automatic weapon.

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

We have all seen the results of a semi auto. 50 dead and 50 injured. We all know enough.

There would have been many times that number if the shooter had a full auto weapon.
Go to about 3:00 in this vid.

youtube.com/watch?v=Uo4kFzECXGs

 

[The Rabbi]

Gun control is the most failed policy ever. I am happy Democrats are pushing it. After Sandy Hook the people who pushed gun control tended to lose elections. They will lose this as well for all the same reasons.
Gun contol doesnt work. Because it's not about controlling guns. It's about controlling people.

 

[Brain357]

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

We have all seen the results of a semi auto. 50 dead and 50 injured. We all know enough.

Is 20 dead acceptable? If someone uses a pump shotgun with buckshot in a crowded venue and kills 20, would you call to ban that weapon as well?

How about 10? Is 10 too many?

Mark

You are talking about ifs? We know what happened. No more of the bull it isn't that dangerous. Yes it is that dangerous and if we still had mag limits and assault ban many lives would have been saved.

 

[Moonglow]

The democrats have opened the flood gates and allowed the lies to flood over us like a tidal wave.

What lies?

 

[PredFan]

Tell that to the family of all those victims. Automatic and semi automatic weapons are not that different. It's just a matter of modifications and semantics.

There is a big difference and folks who are on the gun control side of the discussion should learn the difference. Otherwise, they sound like they are arguing from ignorance and lack of knowledge about the issue.

They aren't that different, that's just your argument. Semi automatics kill many in a short period of time and you don't need that for any reason.

Absolutely untrue. You don't know enough to be arguing.

We have all seen the results of a semi auto. 50 dead and 50 injured. We all know enough.

Is 20 dead acceptable? If someone uses a pump shotgun with buckshot in a crowded venue and kills 20, would you call to ban that weapon as well?

How about 10? Is 10 too many?

Mark

It never is about lives with these gun grabbers, never. It's always about controlling people, getting and maintaining power, and electing democrats. That's why they deny reality and common sense.

 

[Brain357]

Gun control is the most failed policy ever. I am happy Democrats are pushing it. After Sandy Hook the people who pushed gun control tended to lose elections. They will lose this as well for all the same reasons.
Gun contol doesnt work. Because it's not about controlling guns. It's about controlling people.

A lot of criminals are in jail thanks to gun control. Machine guns are hard to get thanks to gun control.