Did you Support War in Iraq??

[surada]

Have you ever had the balls to make a firm point that can be addressed?

Yes. I knew enough about the Middle East and Iraq to know the war would be an unmitigated disaster.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Right leaning riots breaking out spontaneously at right leaning demonstrations? I can think of ONE example in my lifetime

You mean the protest that was organized by a US president who was overwhelmingly rejected from having a second term in an election that he lost but promoted the big LIE that he won? The ONE right wing protest that had a purpose to overturn the election by canceling the votes of black Americans who live in large cities.

Not one BLM peaceful protest where violence broke out was the organizer seeking to overturn an election by canceling the votes of white people who live anywhere.

So what is your point?

 

[irosie91]

What did you think of the West Bank before 1967? Have you ever read Moshe Dayan?

The British Army in Palestine | National Army Museum

In the 1940s, the British Army found itself stuck in the middle of a growing conflict between Arabs and Jews in Palestine. The momentous events that followed led to the creation of the State of Israel.

www.nam.ac.uk

Moshe Dayan made lots of mistakes based on his personal
philosophy and a level of basic dishonesty and ego

 

[Correll]

Yes. I knew enough about the Middle East and Iraq to know the war would be an unmitigated disaster.

Unsupported assertions is all you got? Tell you what, Not has a lot of spamming of anti-American and racist spam to do. Don't clutter up the thread with even less relevant shit.

 

[Correll]

You mean the protest that was organized by a US president who was overwhelmingly rejected ...

Yes, the protest organized by the US president that lost. That was the ONE example I can think of in my life, of a right leaning demonstration erupting into a right leaning riot, while there are hundreds of examples of that happening over the last 5 years on the Left.


That is my point. One instance of things getting out of control, is a lot different than HUNDREDS of "instances" of things getting out of control.


You want to address that, or you want to say some more stupid shit?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correll wrote: One instance of things getting out of control, is a lot different than HUNDREDS of "instances" of things getting out of control. 21SEP26-POST#3485

NFBW wrote: The purpose of the DJT organized peaceful protest on Jan6 was a ‘one time’ attack on the peaceful transfer of power that has been a cornerstone of American Democracy for over two centuries. The specific goal from DJT and his legal council, through all his loyal supporters, and through the 20,000 that attended the Jan6 ‘Stop the Steal (based on the Big Lie) protest, and by the thousand or so violent rioters themselves, was to overturn the election by canceling black American votes in five swing states that Trump lost. The violence by the rioting mob inside the Capitol, the peaceful protest outside the Capitol, and DJT’s legal team all wanted Pence to make a mess of the 2020 election in order to throw the election back to the House of Representatives where DJT could stay in office for a second term. The Jan6 violence was in Sync with DJT’s sinister and dishonest plan. On the other hand, none of the acts of violence resulting from wrongful deaths by police, of black people, are in any way connected to the organizational goal of BLM to peacefully petition for change. You are running from the point that not one of incidents of spontaneous violence over past few years can be pinned on the BLM peaceful protest movement, liberals, Democrats but the rioters on Jan6 wanted exactly what DJT wanted. EXACTLY! 21SEP26-POST#3486

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: One instance of things getting out of control, is a lot different than HUNDREDS of "instances" of things getting out of control. 21SEP26-POST#3485

NFBW wrote: The purpose of the DJT organized peaceful protest on Jan6 was a ‘one time’ attack on the peaceful transfer of power that has been a cornerstone of American Democracy for over two centuries. The specific goal from DJT and his legal council, through all his loyal supporters, and through the 20,000 that attended the Jan6 ‘Stop the Steal (based on the Big Lie) protest, and by the thousand or so violent rioters themselves, was to overturn the election by canceling black American votes in five swing states....

That is your self serving spin on it, not their stated intent.


My point about the difference between ONE example of an "out of control" riot breaking out, and hundreds of them, stands,


as you did not even try to address it.



Get back to me when there have been hundreds of examples of riots breaking out at right leaning peaceful demonstrations, and we can have a different discussion.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

My point about the difference between ONE example of an "out of control" riot breaking out, and hundreds of them, stands,

it stands with your pathetic uses of false equivalence as your choice method of lying this time around.,

Looters and other violent criminals that disrupt BLM peaceful protests are not associated with the organizers. Jan6 rioters were committing violence in order to “STOP THE STEAL” for DJT because you have said you believe the absurd bullshit that the election was stolen from the cursed weak powerless victim DJT.

The violence at any BLM peaceful protest is disruptive and devastates the message that the organizers want to convey. The violence on Jan6 was in harmony and support of DJT’s message to fight and save America from all thise black places were voter fraud runs rampant. That DJT message was taken to heart by the right wing white evangelical Christian nationalists and white supremacy types fully intent on canceling black votes iin major cities. Get Pence to do it or hang the weak MFer. All your facts and lies don’t stand except in your lying hate filled head.

 

[irosie91]

That is your self serving spin on it, not their stated intent.


My point about the difference between ONE example of an "out of control" riot breaking out, and hundreds of them, stands,


as you did not even try to address it.



Get back to me when there have been hundreds of examples of riots breaking out at right leaning peaceful demonstrations, and we can have a different discussion.

Get back to me when you have dead bodies

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW wrote: The specific goal from DJT and his legal council, through all his loyal supporters, and through the 20,000 that attended the Jan6 ‘Stop the Steal (based on the Big Lie) protest, and by the thousand or so violent rioters themselves, was to overturn the election by canceling black American votes in five swing states that Trump lost. 21SEP27-POST#3486


Correll wrote: That is your self serving spin on it, not their stated intent. 21SEP27-POST#3487

NFBW 21SEP27-POST#3490 wrote: No! I am quoting the orange goon directly as my source as the basis of that fact. And there are dozens of quotes By the insurrectionists themselves that they were following DJT’s orders.

“”” "The 2020 Presidential Election was, by far, the greatest Election Fraud in the history," continued Trump. "Had Mike Pence had the courage to send the Electoral College vote back to the states for recertification, and had Mitch McConnell fought for us instead of being the weak and pathetic leader he is, we would right now have a Republican President who would be VETOING the horrific Socialistic Bills that are rapidly going through Congress, including Open Borders, High Taxes, Massive Regulations, and so much else!” DJT-21May15 INSURRECTION “””

 

[irosie91]

Yes. I knew enough about the Middle East and Iraq to know the war would be an unmitigated disaster.

Even I knew it would be a disaster because I saw the shiite/sunni BS

play out right in front of my rural 20 year old eyes. Two GIANT
PRIMITIVE TRIBES----with weapons------way back circa 1970

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correll wrote: I acknowledge the possibility that some of the riots might have been truly spontaneous events without any input from blm. 21MAR07-POST-#1002

NFBW wrote: The police shooting in Kenosha sparked a few days of spontaneous riots that had no input or connection to BLM but you had no control over your penchant for lying when you posted a copy of a screenshot from CNN’s coverage of the Kenosha riot and you call me a liar for stating the FACT that BLM is a peaceful protest movement. BLM had nothing to do with the violence in Kenosha - I am correct. You are a liar. 21SEP27- POST#3492

Correll wrote: Peaceful? You are the liar here, not me. 21SEP26-POST#3475

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

A funny phenomena is occurring in the GOP right now, these lying jackasses are all trying to act like they were against the War in Iraq, when we all remember that every single one of them across the board supported it 150%. They loved the war in Iraq. War in Iraq was their favorite thing ever.

I don't remember any republican at all what so ever, standing with me against the War in Iraq. I remember these idiot Trumpers calling my a traitor and unpatriotic because I was against the war.

Even a few years ago these people wouldn't admit that the war was a huge failure.

Now these pathetic liars try to act like they were against the war all along, that is how pathetic Trumpers are. These people don't even know what they support or oppose, they wait for Foxnews to tell them what to think, and then just go with it...

Republican attitudes on Iraq trip up GOP candidates

Was the Iraq war the right thing to do or the wrong thing? Most Americans answered one way; most Republicans answered another.

www.msnbc.com

Not me. Muslims want it. They gain pleasure when they kill non Muslims.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Operation Mass Appeal was on a mission to create a need to attack Iraq. Have you never read Bibi's Clean Break Strategy from 1996 or the PNAC letter to Clinton in 1998? Look at the dual citizen signatories. It was a complete cock up.

Muslims want war. It makes them happy thinking that war will guarantee them paradise and hopefully bring their Mahdi who Muslims see as their savior. Muslims will lie saying a percentage wants that, with a percentage not wanting that.

 

[Correll]

it stands with your pathetic uses of false equivalence as your choice method of lying this time around.,

Looters and other violent criminals that disrupt BLM peaceful protests are not associated with the organizers. Jan6 rioters were committing violence in order to “STOP THE STEAL” for DJT because you have said you believe the absurd bullshit that the election was stolen from the cursed weak powerless victim DJT.

The violence at any BLM peaceful protest is disruptive and devastates the message that the organizers want to convey. The violence on Jan6 was in harmony and support of DJT’s message to fight and save America from all thise black places were voter fraud runs rampant. That DJT message was taken to heart by the right wing white evangelical Christian nationalists and white supremacy types fully intent on canceling black votes iin major cities. Get Pence to do it or hang the weak MFer. All your facts and lies don’t stand except in your lying hate filled head.

That is your self serving opinion, and as such it is utterly worthless. Less that than in fact, because you have revealed yourself to be a bad faith debater.

IN fact, I would say that thanks to your ANTI-CREDIBILITY, that you saying that, makes it LESS believable.


My point stands. The 1/6 riot was an ACTUAL ISOLATED INCIDENT of an out of control riot breaking out at a "mostly peaceful" demonstration,


while the HUNDREDS OF LEFTY RIOTS, are a PATTERN, in "harmony and support" of the BLM (and antifa) messages of anti-white racism and anti-Americanism and what have you. (they are not very clear, on purpose)


You are teh hate filled one here, not me, NOT. YOu are the one who came here to spam anti-American and Anti-white and anti-Christian hate, while I am here to discuss and learn from the Iraq War, so that hopefully next time, a similar confrontation arises, and there will be a next time, we can do better.


YOu are just here to spread hate and racism and division.

 

[Correll]

Get back to me when you have dead bodies

Dozens have died in the lefty riots of the last 5 years. So, we got plenty of dead bodies.


My point stands. One 4 hour riot is less of a problem than 4 YEARS of riots with scores death and over a billion dollars in damages.

Yet you people want to just sort of gloss over your side's political violence, while making a MOUNTAIN out of the ONE example of criminal violence on our side.


You are vile scum of the Earth.

 

[Correll]

NFBW wrote: The specific goal from DJT and his legal council, through all his loyal supporters, and through the 20,000 that attended the Jan6 ‘Stop the Steal (based on the Big Lie) protest, and by the thousand or so violent rioters themselves, was to overturn the election by canceling black American votes in five swing states that Trump lost. 21SEP27-POST#3486


Correll wrote: That is your self serving spin on it, not their stated intent. 21SEP27-POST#3487

NFBW 21SEP27-POST#3490 wrote: No! I am quoting the orange goon directly as my source as the basis of that fact. And there are dozens of quotes By the insurrectionists themselves that they were following DJT’s orders.

“”” "The 2020 Presidential Election was, by far, the greatest Election Fraud in the history," continued Trump. "Had Mike Pence had the courage to send the Electoral College vote back to the states for recertification, and had Mitch McConnell fought for us instead of being the weak and pathetic leader he is, we would right now have a Republican President who would be VETOING the horrific Socialistic Bills that are rapidly going through Congress, including Open Borders, High Taxes, Massive Regulations, and so much else!” DJT-21May15 INSURRECTION “””

Show me the quote of Trump sayhing that, or admit that you are just a vile, race baiting lying bastard.

EXACTLY THAT TOO, not something that IN YOUR MIND, you know what he "meant", you aspberger ridden weirdo.

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: I acknowledge the possibility that some of the riots might have been truly spontaneous events without any input from blm. 21MAR07-POST-#1002

NFBW wrote: The police shooting in Kenosha sparked a few days of spontaneous riots that had no input or connection to BLM but you had no control over your penchant for lying when you posted a copy of a screenshot from CNN’s coverage of the Kenosha riot and you call me a liar for stating the FACT that BLM is a peaceful protest movement. BLM had nothing to do with the violence in Kenosha - I am correct. You are a liar. 21SEP27- POST#3492

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Correll wrote: Peaceful? You are the liar here, not me. 21SEP26-POST#3475

I have no way of knowing if the riots were truly spontaneous or not. Even if they were spontaneous, they were done, imo, by people who did so IN SUPPORT of teh BLM movement and message.


It is worth nothing that BLM has issues calls for racist violence from the public, on numerous occasions.

 

[irosie91]

Dozens have died in the lefty riots of the last 5 years. So, we got plenty of dead bodies.


My point stands. One 4 hour riot is less of a problem than 4 YEARS of riots with scores death and over a billion dollars in damages.

Yet you people want to just sort of gloss over your side's political violence, while making a MOUNTAIN out of the ONE example of criminal violence on our side.


You are vile scum of the Earth.

you are preaching to the choir

 

[Correll]

you are preaching to the choir

Ah, I misunderstood the intent of your post. I though you meant is as a challenge.