Does anyone think he's wrong?

[Penelope]

So many Biblical scholars here. I guarantee you none of them never actually crack open a Bible, or at any rate, very rarely.

Many atheist have studied the Bible.

 

[freyasman]

Do you know the meaning of the word temporary?

Is that temporary like "2 weeks to flatten the curve", was?

 

[surada]

Well, that's not true.

Some people are just close minded, is all.

Its an ignorant thing to say. Its lies and bad theology. Scofield was serving time in prison for criminal forgery While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" rapture doctrine.

 

[Votto]

The first "Mark of the Beast" - and there will be more

By now I'm sure most of my readers are aware of the decree that all US active duty military personnel must be vaccinated against COVID-19 ...

bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com

From the link;

"The first "Mark of the Beast" - and there will be more​

By now I'm sure most of my readers are aware of the decree that all US active duty military personnel must be vaccinated against COVID-19 - no if's, but's or maybe's about it. Effectively, it's be vaccinated, or be discharged (probably under an "other than honorable" classification, with likely negative effects on veteran's benefits).
I think this is extremely unwise, given the proven ineffectiveness of the vaccine at preventing new or reinfections, albeit at a reduced level of severity. Nevertheless, the government does have the legal right to impose health requirements for the public good, as determined in Jacobson v. Massachusetts in 1905 and subsequent case law. Whether it's wise or beneficial to do so is, of course, not within the court's purview.
However, by imposing this requirement, the government is effectively making it a political litmus test for its military personnel. Obey - and you get to stay in uniform. Refuse - and you're fired, probably with at least some negative consequences for the rest of your life. It's a pretty good way for the government to ensure that those potentially not supportive of its policies are driven from the ranks, leaving the military as a whole that much more politically reliable and trustworthy (from their perspective, of course). One might even suspect that they might feel more free to use that military against their political opponents, or against the people, to enforce conformity to their decrees.
Private companies appear to be following suit in their own operations, requiring that their staff be vaccinated as a condition of continued employment, or refusing to provide services - including access to shops, etc. - to customers who aren't vaccinated. In that sense, vaccination has already been compared to the Biblical "Mark" or "Number of the Beast", in Revelation 13:16-17:




Those who aren't Christians, of course, won't worry about that: but I find the similarities between forced vaccination (particularly a known-to-be-ineffective, as yet not-officially-approved vaccine) and enforced conformity to be more than a little troubling from a spiritual perspective.
The thing to remember is that this is only the first litmus test imposed by the State. It's limited in scope and effect (although to those forced to decide, it's not very limited at all!). However, what if more follow?

• What if you can't get Social Security or welfare benefits, or access entitlement programs, if you're not vaccinated?
• What if your worker compensation benefits are linked to your immunization status?
• What if your right to travel, by some or any means, is linked to that status?
• What if you aren't allowed to renew your driver's license or vehicle registration unless you're vaccinated, making even driving illegal?

There are many possibilities where the State can apply more and more rigorous pressure to force compliance with its decrees. It's not yet done so . . . but that doesn't mean it won't. Our present (illegitimate) administration and its progressive-left-wing allies are determined to rule, whether we like it or not. Their demands are not based on medical science or health considerations at all - we know this, because they've been caught lying so often and so consistently, and the pseudo-"science" involved has so often been confounded and exposed by later developments.
No, it's all about CONTROL. They know that the only way they can stay in power is by controlling any and all opposition: and a health "crisis", manufactured or otherwise, provides a perfect cover for forcing people to conform to their will - or else.
Also, remember that COVID-19 is only one pretext to strengthen their control. There will be more.

• What if we have another 9/11?
• What if a massive cyber-attack takes down essential US infrastructure?
• What if supply chain disruption means that supplies of essential materials become scarce, so that the government takes over their distribution - and, in doing so, ensures that those who obey its edicts get them first, or more of them than others? Rationing is one of the most effective means of social control available.
• What if global economic conditions lead to massive recession and depression that throws millions more Americans out of work, forcing them to rely on a government "safety net" to survive? What conditions might be applied to qualifying for that "safety net"?

There are any number of possible scenarios, and I have no doubt many of them are actively under consideration by the powers that be as I write these words. They may not even need such a pretext. They are bound and determined to make us conform to their "Great Reset", whether we want to or not. They know, with all the fervor and fanaticism of a religious zealot, that they're right and we're wrong: and they therefore feel completely justified in forcing us to conform, or else.
I've quoted C. S. Lewis on this subject before, and it's worth doing so again, particularly in the light of the COVID-19 pandemic.





Prescient words, that look to be coming true in our own times. The State does, indeed, appear to classify those who disagree with its motivations and actions in the same light as "infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals".
There is going to be no peaceful way out of this. The irresistible forces of socialism and statism and oligarchy are running headlong into the forces of freedom and individuality and self-determination. Only one side can survive such a confrontation. The upshot, of course, is that every single American is going to have to choose a side. There won't be a "middle ground" in which to meet, or a fence on which to sit. There are already all too many Americans who would rather fight each other than talk to each other, and behave like civilized human beings.
The situation is made worse by the reality that those who stole power last November are using the fruits of that crime to impose their will upon us. They have no legitimacy; therefore, they're going to seize a sort of pseudo-legitimacy, even if it's a false front, by forcing us to kowtow to it - and to them.
Every day, the sparks are getting closer and closer to the tinder. When it ignites . . . it's not going to be pretty. Batten down your hatches and brace yourselves, friends.
Peter"

Does anyone believe the man is wrong about his conclusions?
Multiple posters here have gleefully told us they intend to force anyone who doesn't go along with this shit from society, he's not exaggerating about the coercion and force they intend to use.



Does anyone think this man is wrong about what we're going to have to do?

Revelation specifically talks about a mark in the right hand or forehead. To date, I have not seen such a mark.

You could say that events leading to this are precursors to the event, but not the mark itself.

Imagine a chip implanted that has all your information on it and can track you from anywhere and be your own personal credit card.

No more running from the law. No more missing persons, no more filing taxes, no more cheating on taxes, no more taking a history and physical when you need medical care because it will all be right there with the click of a scan, etc.

The financial savings from such a move are staggering, saving trillions in tax related problems and health care problems.

It is not a question of if, but when this will happen. It is the ultimate despot wet dream of control.

 

[Penelope]

Yeah, that's what I thought.




And that's why we are never going to do it.

So, do you take any meds?

 

[surada]

Revelation specifically talks about a mark in the right hand or forehead. To date, I have not seen such a mark.

You could say that events leading to this are precursors to the event, but not the mark itself.

Imagine a chip implanted that has all your information on it and can track you from anywhere and be your own personal credit card.

No more running from the law. No more missing persons, no more filing taxes, no more cheating on taxes, no more taking a history and physical when you need medical care because it will all be right there with the click of a scan, etc.

The financial savings from such a move are staggering, saving trillions in tax related problems and health care problems.

It is not a question of if, but when this will happen. It is the ultimate despot wet dream of control.

The Mark of the Beast was the coin of the Roman Empire with the head of Caesar.

 

[freyasman]

So, do you take any meds?

Ibuprofen.


I got a lot of chronic pain from old injuries and wounds.

It's why I stay strong and active. If I stopped, I'd be an invalid before long.

 

[gtopa1]

I am more of a mind that Covid is the Mark of the CCP; probably a Provisional incompetent at first glance who has been "sidelined" by the Central Gov. What they really fear are the Capitalist LAWSUITS!!! $20T sounds a good start.

Do I think it was deliberately leaked?? I need some convincing on that. More than likely is was crap techniques. BUT THEY ARE STILL LIABLE!!!!

Greg

 

[freyasman]

Did anyone read the entire thing, or did everyone just get to the Mark stuff and skip the rest to reply as fast as they could?

 

[konradv]

Well, that's not true.

Some people are just close minded, is all.

Open up, then.

 

[gtopa1]

Ibuprofen.


I got a lot of chronic pain from old injuries and wounds.

It's why I stay strong and active. If I stopped, I'd be an invalid before long.

It's good stuff but I tend to take it as needed and alternate it with Panadol "Strong stuff". Works for me most of the time.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Did anyone read the entire thing, or did everyone just get to the Mark stuff and skip the rest to reply as fast as they could?

I'm not into "Mark stuff" so was immediately turned off it. I am far more into battling Authoritarian Control Freaks on a more human level.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

What religion are you?

What Atheist are you??

Greg

 

[surada]

I'm not into "Mark stuff" so was immediately turned off it. I am far more into battling Authoritarian Control Freaks on a more human level.

Greg

This ex-pastor is manipulating Fundamentalists and Evangelicals with bad theology and politicizing a damned virus.

 

[freyasman]

Open up, then.

I'm not a Christian.

But I read Peter's blog because I find him to be a smart, worldly, thoughtful, and well educated man who has some interesting experiences and insights to share.

I enjoyed his book about his time as a prison chaplain, and found it to be extremely realistic.

I don't care that he is not a follower of my Gods.

 

[surada]

What Atheist are you??

Greg

Not an atheist at all.. Mainline, traditional Protestantism.

Scofield was serving time for criminal forgery. While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" rapture doctrine.

 

[freyasman]

It's good stuff but I tend to take it as needed and alternate it with Panadol "Strong stuff". Works for me most of the time.

Greg

Thanks.

 

[gtopa1]

Not an atheist at all.. Mainline, traditional Protestantism.

Scofield was serving time for criminal forgery. While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" rapture doctrine.

I had some buddies who were Plymouth Bros; hence I am hellbound. lol. But the whole end times thing is something I frankly don't waste time on. Whatever happens is not going to be affected one way or another by me going silly about it. Frankly, I just don't know the hour so havta stick to what matters.

imo

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Not an atheist at all.. Mainline, traditional Protestantism.

Scofield was serving time for criminal forgery. While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" rapture doctrine.

Someone I once liked was carried away by that stuff in the 70s. The 80s came and they were confused. Poor bugger; lovely person though.

Hence I have an issue with the Doctrine; not the peeps...several of whom I have a deep respect for. They know my position on it.

Greg

 

[surada]

I had some buddies who were Plymouth Bros; hence I am hellbound. lol. But the whole end times thing is something I frankly don't waste time on. Whatever happens is not going to be affected one way or another by me going silly about it. Frankly, I just don't know the hour so havta stick to what matters.

imo

Greg

Well, its history and it's long past.