Does the rest of the world think we are crazy?

I wouldn't say foolish at all, Europeans have no problems at all with the American people, this is about the constant dramas played out in Congress. Whether you like Obama or not in Europe he restored much of the respect for the USA government, the Bush years were a complete disaster for the USA image here.

The issue here is the worry that the TP Republicans don't care how much chaos ensues and that Boehner is too weak to stand up to them. We've had so many problems in Europe and are just now digging ourselves out of the economic mess, the last thing we want is another recession brought on by people that just don't understand that what happens in the USA effects the whole world.

My conservative English friends don't share your views about the W presidency versus Obama. I'm no W fan, BTW, I'm libertarian. However, they see Obama as taking the US down the socialism path that they hoped we'd learn not to do because of what it did to Britain and Europe. London would tend to be more strongly your view than outside London.

The European left like Obama mostly because he makes the United States weaker. Which is why he got a Peace Prize, but he gets zero from European governments in terms of actually getting any concrete support.

I've worked extensively in Europe for the last couple decades, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt though towards Americans from Europe. I totally agree with your statements on the general European views, I'm not arguing that. But Europeans like to pick on everyone, including each other. And as top nation, they like to pick on us the most. It makes for great dinner conversation with wine and Grappa. But Americans tend to overreact to what's said about us and not really process what the Germans say about the Dutch, the French say about the Italians, ...

The main topics that are generally brought up to me BTW regarding America in Europe they always ask me about are guns and the death penalty. The Republican versus Democrat thing is mentioned here and there, but I don't get pressed much about it.

I am being asked more about the big cars. Which is easily refutable - if one wants to be sarcastic - just to compare to their plastic little boxes, if on a more serious note - just compare the distances and availability of public transportation. Most people understand. The ones who do not get the appropriate treatment.
But I am from Europe myself, so it is much more easier :D

Can you imagine driving a Chevy Tahoe into a European town? Or trying to park that sucker? Wow.
 
It was the Republicans who peed in your bed last night too, wasn't it dean?

Did the MSM pee In yours?

No, they aren't much interested in people who take responsibility for their own actions. They were busy quoting dean about how the republicans peed in his.

The only thing Republicans take responsibility for is taking out Bin Laden. Something they had nothing to do with. You know that, right?
 
I am being asked more about the big cars. Which is easily refutable - if one wants to be sarcastic - just to compare to their plastic little boxes, if on a more serious note - just compare the distances and availability of public transportation. Most people understand. The ones who do not get the appropriate treatment.
But I am from Europe myself, so it is much more easier :D

Can you imagine driving a Chevy Tahoe into a European town? Or trying to park that sucker? Wow.

No, I can't.
But that does not mean I will nag Europeans for those ugly little hedgebacks they are all driving.
I can't stand the moronic proportions of the car with cut off rear end.
Ugliness is the reason I don't like SUVs, but at least they are comfortable.
 
I am being asked more about the big cars. Which is easily refutable - if one wants to be sarcastic - just to compare to their plastic little boxes, if on a more serious note - just compare the distances and availability of public transportation. Most people understand. The ones who do not get the appropriate treatment.
But I am from Europe myself, so it is much more easier :D

Can you imagine driving a Chevy Tahoe into a European town? Or trying to park that sucker? Wow.

No, I can't.
But that does not mean I will nag Europeans for those ugly little hedgebacks they are all driving.
I can't stand the moronic proportions of the car with cut off rear end.
Ugliness is the reason I don't like SUVs, but at least they are comfortable.

I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier
 
I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.






Hmmm...and I thought they had decent education in your country...
 
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My oldest brother has lived in England for over 40 years. We spoke about this when we had a "brothers reunion" in California recently. He gets a kick out of us, our "leaders" as they posture and pose and bullshit and try to satisfy their donors. He sees our culture in clear and fairly rapid decline.

Then he points out that it's really no better in England, and we agree that we see that, too.

"Leaders" and their "followers" are pretty good at making their countries look crazy. The rest of us just try not to let too much of it get on us.

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I have a friend of mine who moved here from Germany to run one of a German company's plants. He's a Merkel conservative. He questions American's conservatives seriousness about lowering the National Debt. Merkel's government not only cut spending, but also raised taxes and Germany has advanced out of their debt crisis much better than the US because they implemented both spending cuts and tax increases.
I moved from New Zealand to the US when I was 6 and most of my relatives still live in New Zealand with a few sprinkled in other Pacific Rim countries. Like most Kiwis, they like Americans over all despite their arrogance. They do think the US's government is really screwed up because they seem to get nothing done and all they do is fight over ever little thing. And I totally agree with them, They, like me see America on the decline because of the sharp polarization.
They hope America can get it's act together, except a couple of my cousins would like to see America fail. :mad:
It seems that the world is baffled at some of the childish stupidity of our elected officials.
 
We are crazy. So what's wrong if the rest of the world realizes the truth? Its about time we admit it.
 
The US is the most powerful nation on earth. Politically, militarily and economically. Everything we do impacts the rest of the world.

What does the world think of us?

1. Politically: The US is unstable. Our government is broken. We cannot accomplish the most simple tasks let alone act as leaders of the free world. We can't pass a budget, agree to keep our government going, agree to pay our debts.

2. Justice System: We have more of our citizens in prison than any nation on earth. We are one of the few "civilized" nations in the free world that still relys on capital punishment. We continue a fruitless "War on Drugs" than encourages violence and fills our prisons

3. Gun Violence: We have a murder rate three times that of similar nations. We have endured assasinations of our leaders and an endless stream of massacres and yet we show no will to do anything other than accept it

4. Environment: We allow science to become a political issue, ignoring scientific reason because it interferes with our politics. 95% of scientists agree that manmade global warming exists and still we treat is as a political threat not a natural threat

5. Education: America used to set the standard for education but we now settle for "good enough". If our students can pass an arbitrary exam, we are satisfied with the level of education. Our students perform poorly when compared to our peers and we are unwilling to do anything about it. Our education system is disjointed and unfocused

Why does there have to be a downside?

The US used to be the political and cultural leader of the free world. Where did we go wrong?

Why is the rest of the world laughing at us or looking on in shock?

It's embarrassing isn't it.
 
The world makes a distinction between rational Dem and the ugly American GOP, BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP FAIRLY QUIET ABOUT IT. Polls show they like Obama about 70-80 per cent, while Reagan and BOOSH W WERE IN THE 20'S.

The UK'S TORIES RUN SECOND IN THE BS IMPERIALIST, RACIST, SAVAGE CAPITALIST, A-HOLE DIVISION...LOL
 
Can you imagine driving a Chevy Tahoe into a European town? Or trying to park that sucker? Wow.

No, I can't.
But that does not mean I will nag Europeans for those ugly little hedgebacks they are all driving.
I can't stand the moronic proportions of the car with cut off rear end.
Ugliness is the reason I don't like SUVs, but at least they are comfortable.

I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier

I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.
 
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No, I can't.
But that does not mean I will nag Europeans for those ugly little hedgebacks they are all driving.
I can't stand the moronic proportions of the car with cut off rear end.
Ugliness is the reason I don't like SUVs, but at least they are comfortable.

I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier

I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.

I highly doubt you do...I miss CITROENS, Morgans, Alfas, MGs, Caterhams, all kinds of cars we no longer can get...lots of models of makes we do get that we don't see either- usually the most interesting...
 
I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.






Hmmm...and I thought they had decent education in your country...

I wish. But I was 'educated' in England and Belgium so don't blam the Swedes. Anyway - am I now to understand that no fat couch potatoes drive SUVs?
 
No, I can't.
But that does not mean I will nag Europeans for those ugly little hedgebacks they are all driving.
I can't stand the moronic proportions of the car with cut off rear end.
Ugliness is the reason I don't like SUVs, but at least they are comfortable.

I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier

I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find the SAAB that one of my sons drives pretty enough. And for all I know someone may think you perfectly lovely - as someone once said there's no accounting for taste.

Btw the word you may be looking for is 'hatchback'.
 
- am I now to understand that no fat couch potatoes drive SUVs?


That's not what you said. If you were educated in England, you should be familiar enough with the English language to understand what your statement implied.
 
I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier

I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.

I highly doubt you do...I miss CITROENS, Morgans, Alfas, MGs, Caterhams, all kinds of cars we no longer can get...lots of models of makes we do get that we don't see either- usually the most interesting...

listen, hater dupe, unlike you, stuck with your head up leftard propaganda ass, I travel a lot. And I am from Europe myself. I know what they drive.

Hedgebacks are ugly. As are SUVs, but the latter ones are at least comfortable.
 
I understand that SUV means Sports Utility Vehicle. And that they are driven by fat people who's only connection with sport is watching it from a couch.

We don't all drive tiny cars. I have a SEAT Alhambra which is a fairly large people carrier

I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find the SAAB that one of my sons drives pretty enough. And for all I know someone may think you perfectly lovely - as someone once said there's no accounting for taste.

Btw the word you may be looking for is 'hatchback'.

whatever they are called they are still UGLY.

a car has to be a sedan to be beautiful.
 
Nobody gives a fuck what the rest of the world thinks of us.

Which is why we're the most respected and loved Nation in the History of Man.

So were the most respected and loved nation in the world because you don't give a fuck what they think about us. Now that doesn't make any sense at all. Anyway any proof about how loved and respected we've been lately?
 
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I know what cars you, guys, drive :D

No need to get defensive .ugly is ugly. And hadgebacks ARE ugly.

I highly doubt you do...I miss CITROENS, Morgans, Alfas, MGs, Caterhams, all kinds of cars we no longer can get...lots of models of makes we do get that we don't see either- usually the most interesting...

listen, hater dupe, unlike you, stuck with your head up leftard propaganda ass, I travel a lot. And I am from Europe myself. I know what they drive.

Hedgebacks are ugly. As are SUVs, but the latter ones are at least comfortable.

I've BEEN THERE 25 TIMES, LIVED THERE, speak French and Spanish fluently, AND LOVE CARS. I ALSO know how to spell hatchback- to me you sound like a Pub dupe drone who knows nothing, just defending your sheeple car choice LOL.

Great example of why the world is sick of ugly American GOP...
 

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