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What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
I always thought you worked for more not just ask,no not jealous at all.I don't want or need a hand holder.
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
WAYNE -- Ken Pool is making good money.
On weekdays, he shows up at 7 a.m. at Ford Motor Co.'s Michigan Truck Plant in Wayne, signs in, and then starts working -- on a crossword puzzle. Pool hates the monotony, but the pay is good: more than $31 an hour, plus benefits.
"We just go in and play crossword puzzles, watch videos that someone brings in or read the newspaper," he says. "Otherwise, I've just sat."
Pool is one of more than 12,000 American autoworkers who, instead of installing windshields or bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank set up by Detroit automakers and Delphi Corp. as part of an extraordinary job security agreement with the United Auto Workers union.
The jobs bank programs were the price the industry paid in the 1980s to win UAW support for controversial efforts to boost productivity through increased automation and more flexible manufacturing.
As part of its restructuring under bankruptcy, Delphi is actively pressing the union to give up the program.
With Wall Street wondering how automakers can afford to pay thousands of workers to do nothing as their market share withers, the union is likely to hear a similar message from the Big Three when their contracts with the UAW expire in 2007 -- if not sooner.
"It's an albatross around their necks," said Steven Szakaly, an economist with the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor. "It's a huge number of workers doing nothing. That has a very large effect on their future earnings outlook."
12,000 paid not to work (UAW Union Alert)
Geez I wonder if this was ANY influence on why Detroit 12,000 auto workers are not working but were still paid..in Detroit!
"Take grass cutting. As defined by the current United Auto Worker contract negotiated with the "Big Five" (GM, Ford, Chrysler, and top parts makers Delphi and Visteon), an auto "production worker" is a job description that covers anything from mowing grass to cleaning the toilets.
In the real world, these jobs would be outsourced to $8 an hour, no-benefit wage earners, but on Planet Big Five, these jobs get the same wages as any auto line-worker: an average $26 an hour ($60,000 a year) plus benefits that bring the company's total cost per worker to a staggering $65 an hour.
But at least the grass cutters are working for their pay.
The UAW contract also guarantees that 12,000 autoworkers get full wage for doing nothing.
On the heels of Miller's straight-talk, the Detroit News reported that "12,000 American autoworkers, instead of bending sheet metal, spend their days counting the hours in a jobs bank."
These aren't jobs. And they certainly aren't being "lost" to China.
GM Obama Kicks Non-Union Americans to the Ground?Again | Opinion - Conservative
How ironic...
Does this thread have a point?
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
How ironic...
Does this thread have a point?
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
It was originally quoted in The New York Times that Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle makes $263,000 a day.
The corporations are taking the money from their investors and they don't turn around and put it into expansion, salaries or quality control. They just give it to their CEOs.
Can any stock holder or board director make an argument to pay their CEO $263,000 a day?????
What do you guys think? No..not about the source or the group but about the stats. Could it be that everyone else is jealous of unions?
Instead of demanding they have less, why don't we ask for more?
It was originally quoted in The New York Times that Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle makes $263,000 a day.
The corporations are taking the money from their investors and they don't turn around and put it into expansion, salaries or quality control. They just give it to their CEOs.
Can any stock holder or board director make an argument to pay their CEO $263,000 a day?????
For someone who doesn't care what people do in their own bedrooms you sure care a lot about what people do with their own money.
Yeah, people are jealous of unions all right.
Railroad industry
Steel industry
Technology and Its Effect on Labor in the Steel Industry - Google Books
The lesson is that unions provide higher wages for some workers while providing unemployment for others, lower wages for non union workers.
When there are MILLIONS who can do your job with little or no training.. when your skills are not in demand.. you don't get offered this high dollars...
and if you think you have what it takes to run a huge corporation.. just go ahead and start one..
When there are MILLIONS who can do your job with little or no training.. when your skills are not in demand.. you don't get offered this high dollars...
and if you think you have what it takes to run a huge corporation.. just go ahead and start one..
When there are MILLIONS who can do your job with little or no training.. when your skills are not in demand.. you don't get offered this high dollars...
and if you think you have what it takes to run a huge corporation.. just go ahead and start one..
What do you think Larry Ellison does to earn $263,000 a day? No one even tries to answer the question. Your rhetorical answer is just more pixelated methane for this board.
