Dylann's Black Friend Speaks Out(video)

After watching the video in the OP, do you believe the crime was against race or a church?

  • Race, no matter what Dylann's friends said.

  • I used to think race, but now I don't know.

  • Looks like a kneejerk attack against a church instead

  • Looks like a long premeditation on an attack against a church.


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This is the logo for Gold's Gym. It is not specifically a black man.

Yet it is on Dylann's T-shirt. Funny he picked a black one to wear.. and not burn...while he burned the Stars and Stripes instead..

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Not baffling at all. The Gold's Gym logo shows a weight lifter or bodybuilder, and the color of the body varies with the color of the shirt.

So he had some friends, or people who thought they were his friends, who are black. His other friends talked about all his racist rants. Funny how you dismiss their testimony and only see that of his black friends.

Any actual evidence that Dylann Roof is a homosexual yet?

I'm willing to say he may be closeted racist. But you are unwilling to say he might have had other motivations surrounding his being a homosexual. Are you officially going on the record here saying "Winterborn doesn't think Dylann Roof is gay after looking at his social media photos"? Because you might have egg on your face after the prosecutors get done harvesting the cloud in the next week or two on this guy.

I am saying that he is openly racist and that racism was the motivation for his crime.

I am also willing to go on record and say that your attempts to make this about him being gay, when you have absolutely no evidence to support that, is laughable
 
golds-gym-logo-1.gif
This is the logo for Gold's Gym. It is not specifically a black man.

Yet it is on Dylann's T-shirt. Funny he picked a black one to wear.. and not burn...while he burned the Stars and Stripes instead..

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Yep, he wore a Gold's Gym shirt. That is all.

Of course no young badass wannabe ever wears black, right? It must mean he is gay.

He is also wearing workboots! I knew a gay man who worked construction and he wore workboots too!! That MUST mean Dylann Roof is gay!!!
 
And if Dylann Roof is gay, does that change your view of events given that his attack was on June 17, 2015 at a Christian church? Along with knowing he had black friends swearing they never saw a racist bone in his body... and was wearing a black male figure on his black "gold's gym" t-shirt pumping iron? Or will your stance still be RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!!! "Retaliation against blacks for raping white women!"...after an hour at a Bible study...gunning down mainly aging/elderly women there?
 
And you mentioned his wanting to start a race war. I don't think we should drop just yet the motivations for why that is..

I am not concerned about what sort of porn he viewed. The overwhelming evidence is that his crime was racially motivated. You, on the otherhand, have focused solely on his sexuality in order to try and make some anti-gay posts that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation....from the same CNN link: "He confessed to the shootings in interviews with the Charleston police and FBI, two law enforcement officials told Evan Perez and Wesley Bruer of CNN,the first network to report this development. He also told investigators he wanted to start a race war, one of those officials said."...Seems pretty obvious that this is racially motivated.
"Seems pretty obvious"...and on its face, yes, that's how you'd like to keep it. But let's back up to a little recent history preceeding this attack on a church..and other circumstantial evidence..

His black friend(s) swear he wasn't a racist; not around them. And that shirt he's wearing while burning the American flag. Why wasn't he burning the image of a bulging black man pumping iron instead of the stars and stripes?

You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left. Given this boy is almost certainly gay, that lust to incite a race war may not necessarily be born from the primary parent of "racism"; though being closeted racist would make him the perfect footsoldier for that crusade for sure. Who was it who called this movement a "culture war" again?...I think it was a talking head on the far left if memory serves.. And what was the date of the attack on the church? Wasn't it June 17th 2015? What had just happened to the far left Agenda the day before?..
 
And if Dylann Roof is gay, does that change your view of events given that his attack was on June 17, 2015 at a Christian church? Along with knowing he had black friends swearing they never saw a racist bone in his body... and was wearing a black male figure on his black "gold's gym" t-shirt pumping iron? Or will your stance still be RACISM! RACISM! RACISM!!! "Retaliation against blacks for raping white women!"...after an hour at a Bible study...gunning down mainly aging/elderly women there?

No, his being gay would not change my opinion one iota. Considering the things he wrote on his website, things his friends reported he was saying, and the things he said as he was committing the crime, this is very obviously a racial crime.

And the reason he gunned down old church ladies is because he, like most lunatic racists, is a coward. He knew that a church would let him in without question and that the people there would most likely be unable to defend themselves.

This has nothing to do with homosexuality. Your attempts to connect the two show your own obsession, not a reason for Roof's actions.
 
And you mentioned his wanting to start a race war. I don't think we should drop just yet the motivations for why that is..

I am not concerned about what sort of porn he viewed. The overwhelming evidence is that his crime was racially motivated. You, on the otherhand, have focused solely on his sexuality in order to try and make some anti-gay posts that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation....from the same CNN link: "He confessed to the shootings in interviews with the Charleston police and FBI, two law enforcement officials told Evan Perez and Wesley Bruer of CNN,the first network to report this development. He also told investigators he wanted to start a race war, one of those officials said."...Seems pretty obvious that this is racially motivated.
"Seems pretty obvious"...and on its face, yes, that's how you'd like to keep it. But let's back up to a little recent history preceeding this attack on a church..and other circumstantial evidence..

His black friend(s) swear he wasn't a racist; not around them. And that shirt he's wearing while burning the American flag. Why wasn't he burning the image of a bulging black man pumping iron instead of the stars and stripes?

You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left. Given this boy is almost certainly gay, that lust to incite a race war may not necessarily be born from the primary parent of "racism"; though being closeted racist would make him the perfect footsoldier for that crusade for sure. Who was it who called this movement a "culture war" again?...I think it was a talking head on the far left if memory serves.. And what was the date of the attack on the church? Wasn't it June 17th 2015? What had just happened to the far left Agenda the day before?..

YOu are sticking with your description of the Gold's Gym logo as "a bulging black man"? lmao You really ARE obsessed.
 
Oh for the love of God! Now Sil is claiming gays want to start a race war. :lol:
 
Here, let's try again...

And you mentioned his wanting to start a race war. I don't think we should drop just yet the motivations for why that is..

I am not concerned about what sort of porn he viewed. The overwhelming evidence is that his crime was racially motivated. You, on the otherhand, have focused solely on his sexuality in order to try and make some anti-gay posts that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation....from the same CNN link: "He confessed to the shootings in interviews with the Charleston police and FBI, two law enforcement officials told Evan Perez and Wesley Bruer of CNN,the first network to report this development. He also told investigators he wanted to start a race war, one of those officials said."...Seems pretty obvious that this is racially motivated.
"Seems pretty obvious"...and on its face, yes, that's how you'd like to keep it. But let's back up to a little recent history preceeding this attack on a church..and other circumstantial evidence..
His black friend(s) swear he wasn't a racist; not around them. And that shirt he's wearing while burning the American flag. Why wasn't he burning the image of a bulging black man pumping iron instead of the stars and stripes?

You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left. Given this boy is almost certainly gay, that lust to incite a race war may not necessarily be born from the primary parent of "racism"; though being closeted racist would make him the perfect footsoldier for that crusade for sure. Who was it who called this movement a "culture war" again?...I think it was a talking head on the far left if memory serves.. And what was the date of the attack on the church? Wasn't it June 17th 2015? What had just happened to the far left Agenda the day before?..

Oh for the love of God! Now Sil is claiming gays want to start a race war. :lol:
Nope, Winterborn brought that up first. I rebutted it. Or am I now not allowed to rebut it with facts? Remember Missouri? Who was it fanning the flames of racial unrest there? The GOP or the neo-democrats? Which media outlet/talking heads specifically? Do you remember? And do you remember what their main pet cause is when they're not stoking the fires of racial unrest?
 
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Sil you realize spamming the same bullshit over and over again doesn't add to its validity, right?
 
Oh for the love of God! Now Sil is claiming gays want to start a race war. :lol:
Nope, Winterborn brought that up first.

Yes I did. As evidence that Roof's actions were racially motivated. And his own writings show he wanted to start one.

But you want to somehow connect a race war with the gay community. When you said "You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left", you were blatantly trying to put it off on gays.
 
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Clearly when he posted "I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country... “we have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me",

What he really meant was,

"Wonder where I can go pick me up some single-bore mayonnaise pistol? Charleston, that's the ticket by golly. It's on the ocean. I bet they're sailors there".

It was a typo.
 
Clearly when he posted "I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country... “we have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me",

So he was trying to recruit his friends I guess to join in. And all along he was telling them his target was the university campus. Last minute change of plans I guess. I wonder if anyone could've hacked his manifesto since it doesn't quite seem to line up with what witnesses are saying..at least according to his black friend..
 
Clearly when he posted "I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country... “we have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me",

So he was trying to recruit his friends I guess to join in. And all along he was telling them his target was the university campus. Last minute change of plans I guess. I wonder if anyone could've hacked his manifesto since it doesn't quite seem to line up with what witnesses are saying..at least according to his black friend..

So now you wonder about whether his manifesto was hacked? Because it doesn't jive with what he told his black friend??

Jeez you bend over backwards to avoid acknowledging this punk is a racist.
 
wow. that kid has some balls speaking out in defense of roof.

this does increase the odds, it was some form of madness, instead of political terrorism.
 
Here, let's try again...

And you mentioned his wanting to start a race war. I don't think we should drop just yet the motivations for why that is..

I am not concerned about what sort of porn he viewed. The overwhelming evidence is that his crime was racially motivated. You, on the otherhand, have focused solely on his sexuality in order to try and make some anti-gay posts that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation....from the same CNN link: "He confessed to the shootings in interviews with the Charleston police and FBI, two law enforcement officials told Evan Perez and Wesley Bruer of CNN,the first network to report this development. He also told investigators he wanted to start a race war, one of those officials said."...Seems pretty obvious that this is racially motivated.
"Seems pretty obvious"...and on its face, yes, that's how you'd like to keep it. But let's back up to a little recent history preceeding this attack on a church..and other circumstantial evidence..
His black friend(s) swear he wasn't a racist; not around them. And that shirt he's wearing while burning the American flag. Why wasn't he burning the image of a bulging black man pumping iron instead of the stars and stripes?

You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left. Given this boy is almost certainly gay, that lust to incite a race war may not necessarily be born from the primary parent of "racism"; though being closeted racist would make him the perfect footsoldier for that crusade for sure. Who was it who called this movement a "culture war" again?...I think it was a talking head on the far left if memory serves.. And what was the date of the attack on the church? Wasn't it June 17th 2015? What had just happened to the far left Agenda the day before?..

Oh for the love of God! Now Sil is claiming gays want to start a race war. :lol:
Nope, Winterborn brought that up first. I rebutted it. Or am I now not allowed to rebut it with facts? Remember Missouri? Who was it fanning the flames of racial unrest there? The GOP or the neo-democrats? Which media outlet/talking heads specifically? Do you remember? And do you remember what their main pet cause is when they're not stoking the fires of racial unrest?

Hey Sil, since you are putting so much stock in what Roof's black friend said, how about what his cousins say?

from:Charleston shooting From liking a woman who dated a black man to a fan of white power music insight into Dylann Roof s life emerges - Americas - World - The Independent

"The cousin of the suspected terrorist who killed nine black churchgoers is claiming that his relative listened to white power music and was snubbed by a woman for a black man.

Dylann Roof, the alleged terrorist accused of murdering nine black church members at the nation’s oldest black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

Scott Roof, a man identified as Dylann Roof’s cousin told TheIntercept that Mr Roof changed his attitude after a black man became involved with a woman he was interested in
."


But...but...Dylann Roof is "obviously gay", right? I mean his haircut, his watch and his Gold's Gym shirt prove that, right?
 
Oh for the love of God! Now Sil is claiming gays want to start a race war. :lol:
Nope, Winterborn brought that up first.

Yes I did. As evidence that Roof's actions were racially motivated. And his own writings show he wanted to start one.

But you want to somehow connect a race war with the gay community. When you said "You know, there's been another group trying to incite a race war in order to forward a certain tag-along civil rights movement on the far left", you were blatantly trying to put it off on gays.
"Somehow"? I was watching this past year how a certain media outlet went around town by town fanning racial tensions as a nearly daily fare on their network. It's a network that has a pet cause I'll be Dylann Roof checked in with regularly. A clue to which one it was is that it wasn't Fox News.

This actually happened. D. Roof actually had a predominantly white school targeted before he switched plans suddenly to a church on June 17, 2015. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what his motivations were: racial tensions and another agenda.
 

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