Ending health insurance for 13 million to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?

[danielpalos]

I don't want a free war on drugs.

How about let’s be free of socialism

Socialism starts with a social contract like our Constitution.

Na, Our federal government is not anywhere near what it was supposed to be...

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution, providing for the general warfare is not.

Less government more freedom, we obviously have no real freedom in this country

End our wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

 

[danielpalos]

We already have a Constitution.

Fuck the village let’s be individuals

Well regulated militia of the People are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.

Again, You like to take things out of context of the era

We have a Second Amendment.

And taken in context - it is to protect us from our own federal government.
Thank God our military is overwhelmingly pro second amendment

No, it is not. The intent and purpose is in the first clause.

 

[danielpalos]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

First of all, it's not tax cuts for the wealthy, second, it doesn't end health insurance for anyone. It gives them choice.

Simple income redistribution if it adds to the debt.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

Id rather reward them than reward worthless mentally ill entitlement addicts such as yourself. At least the wealthy contribute to society. And help take care of the worthless douchebags like you who refuse to support themselves OR assist others.

Hey everybody!

I got a GREAT IDEA!

Lets give money to people who don't need it!

/----/ I've decided you don't need all of your money. Write a check for $5,000 and send it to the US treasury to pay down the debt, you evil, selfish, greedy miser. CHOP CHOP

 

[Cellblock2429]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

/----/ Letting people keep more of their own money is not a giveaway. Welfare is.

Adding to the debt is simple income redistribution, not welfare.

/----/ Why is it that the Gubmint can never do with one penny less but the taxpayers have a limitless supply of money? CUT SPENDING.

How about we cut spending BEFORE we cut taxes?

/----/ Translation: Let's never cut taxes because Congress will never cut spending.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If you only paid premiums to cover your own health care your premiums would be a whole hell of alot higher than you can imagine. You pay into a pool.

That's neither specific nor related to my point. Nor does it show what I wrote to be, as you say, "dead wrong". Thus, I'm afraid I'll have to give your response a failing grade.

Fug you...I like what he said...and you should too if you had any sense.

It's irrelevant whether you like it or not.

It is when you fire up that other brain cell and realize i'm speaking in solidarity with millions.

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional,

The healthy pay for the sick, dope. Every healthy policy holder is already paying for the sick. Rates are determined by the ratio of healthy to sick. Removing or giving an out to younger healthier people in the pool will only increase the rates for those left.

 

[danielpalos]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

/----/ Letting people keep more of their own money is not a giveaway. Welfare is.

Adding to the debt is simple income redistribution, not welfare.

/----/ Why is it that the Gubmint can never do with one penny less but the taxpayers have a limitless supply of money? CUT SPENDING.

How about we cut spending BEFORE we cut taxes?

The right wing is all, political talk and no political action, just like their morals.

 

[danielpalos]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

/----/ Letting people keep more of their own money is not a giveaway. Welfare is.

Adding to the debt is simple income redistribution, not welfare.

/----/ Why is it that the Gubmint can never do with one penny less but the taxpayers have a limitless supply of money? CUT SPENDING.

How about we cut spending BEFORE we cut taxes?

How about we do both to the extreme? The federal government has no claim to perceived future taxes

Just right wing propaganda. Congress is delegated the power to tax, by the People.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Senate Republicans have proposed eliminating the ACA’s requirement that all Americans have health insurance or pay a penalty. By getting rid of this, the CBO estimates 13 million fewer people would have insurance a decade from now.

Thats not ending it dumbfuck... Good gawd
That is giving people a choice instead of forcing them to buy a for-profit product.

Like car insurance?

If I don't own a car, I don't have to buy car insurance so the guy down the street can get a discount. Bad comparison there.

You don't have to go to hospital either. But we know you will.

Been there, done that. I also own and insure a car. I also own a house and buy food and clothes. These are good things, but simply being good things doesn't justify them being required under the force of law.

It certainly does if the burden to those in the system and the system it's self is destructive.

Everyone goes to the hospital whether insured or not. Those without coverage and who cannot pay are unfairly driving up costs for those who are insured.

It's the exact same dynamic that forced states to mandate car insurance.

 

[danielpalos]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

/----/ Letting people keep more of their own money is not a giveaway. Welfare is.

Adding to the debt is simple income redistribution, not welfare.

/----/ Why is it that the Gubmint can never do with one penny less but the taxpayers have a limitless supply of money? CUT SPENDING.

How about we cut spending BEFORE we cut taxes?

/----/ Translation: Let's never cut taxes because Congress will never cut spending.

Not even with a right wing majority?

 

[danielpalos]

That's neither specific nor related to my point. Nor does it show what I wrote to be, as you say, "dead wrong". Thus, I'm afraid I'll have to give your response a failing grade.

Fug you...I like what he said...and you should too if you had any sense.

It's irrelevant whether you like it or not.

It is when you fire up that other brain cell and realize i'm speaking in solidarity with millions.

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional,

The healthy pay for the sick, dope. Every healthy policy holder is already paying for the sick. Rates are determined by the ratio of healthy to sick. Removing or giving an out to younger healthier people in the pool will only increase the rates for those left.

Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So less stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I don't see the issue here.

Just wait for the bodies to pile up.....

Of course, because we all know prior to 2011 bodies were lining the streets all over the country.



You people lie through your teeth so much that I don't think you can even tell the difference anymore between the truth and your delusions.

Of course, because we all know prior to 2011 bodies were lining the streets all over the country.

No, but premiums were rising annually at a much larger rate than now.

In many places they are rising at a larger rate, but they are not supposed to be rising at all anymore. The average family was supposed to see a $2500 annual savings

In many places they are rising at a larger rate,

Post it up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Fug you...I like what he said...and you should too if you had any sense.

It's irrelevant whether you like it or not.

It is when you fire up that other brain cell and realize i'm speaking in solidarity with millions.

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

You're probably too dumb to realize you just agreed with me. Forcing people to pay for some freeloader who gets cancer, gets in a serious accident or gets his ass whipped in a bar is unconstitutional Thats why Obama mandated that every one buy insurance to relieve the cost of emergency room visits for injured or potentially injured freeloaders from the backs of tax payers. The alternative is to stop government funded compensation to hospitals who treat people who don't have insurance. Let's see how generous the hospitals will be then.... get out the body bags...

Na, Insurance is not healthcare, and no one should be forced to pay for other people shit

Na, Insurance is not healthcare, and no one should be forced to pay for other people shit

It's not healthcare. It's how healthcare is funded, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Fug you...I like what he said...and you should too if you had any sense.

It's irrelevant whether you like it or not.

It is when you fire up that other brain cell and realize i'm speaking in solidarity with millions.

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional,

The healthy pay for the sick, dope. Every healthy policy holder is already paying for the sick. Rates are determined by the ratio of healthy to sick. Removing or giving an out to younger healthier people in the pool will only increase the rates for those left.

Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.

WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

No one is ending health insurance. The mandate and the tax penalty were done away with that is all.

So those estimated 13 million will be choosing not to buy health insurance no one is taking it away from them.

The more relevant question is why do you oppose people making their own choices?

No, dope.

Eliminating the mandate shrinks the risk pool. The younger and healthier will drop out. The cost for those left will rise sharply.
Premiums will rise to the point where many will be priced out altogether.

The costs are rising sharply anyway.
But you don't know why do you? it's because you can't give the unlimited coverage called for by Obammy care without premiums skyrocketing.

The insurance for my employees under 45 is going up 68% for next year. The insurance for my employees over 45 is going up 90%

And that rate hike was in the works way before the repeal of the mandate.

And as I said no one is losing their insurance. They will make their own choices about whether to purchase it.

But you people all have a problem with people making their own choices

Bullshit. Post it up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It is when you fire up that other brain cell and realize i'm speaking in solidarity with millions.

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

You're probably too dumb to realize you just agreed with me. Forcing people to pay for some freeloader who gets cancer, gets in a serious accident or gets his ass whipped in a bar is unconstitutional Thats why Obama mandated that every one buy insurance to relieve the cost of emergency room visits for injured or potentially injured freeloaders from the backs of tax payers. The alternative is to stop government funded compensation to hospitals who treat people who don't have insurance. Let's see how generous the hospitals will be then.... get out the body bags...

Na, Insurance is not healthcare, and no one should be forced to pay for other people shit

Who said Insurance is healthcare? Are you stupid or something? And I was right when I said you'd be too dumb to understand that every time an uninsured person goes to he emergency room you're paying for their "shit." If you won't acknowledge that, I see no need to engage you further.

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

Again, forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it’s unconstitutional

That's how it's worked your entire life, dope.
That's how all insurance works.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

Oh it was perfectly acceptable to take away 200,000,000 people's right to choose if they wanted health insurance or not. And liberals say they are for CHOICE. Fucking Nazi's are the New Democrat Socialist Party.

Wow, how many of you morons are going to cry about this.

If I could tattoo a message on your forehead that said that:
1) If you get taken for medical care and cannot pay in advance, throw this POS out in the street.

2) If you find that you have a chronic or serious meducal condition, you can not buy health insurance, see #1

It does not take a village in fact we do not want to be part of the fucking village

Don't bring your indigent ass to the village hospital then.

 

[Thinker101]

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your fucking mandate up your ass if you like it so much

You're probably too dumb to realize you just agreed with me. Forcing people to pay for some freeloader who gets cancer, gets in a serious accident or gets his ass whipped in a bar is unconstitutional Thats why Obama mandated that every one buy insurance to relieve the cost of emergency room visits for injured or potentially injured freeloaders from the backs of tax payers. The alternative is to stop government funded compensation to hospitals who treat people who don't have insurance. Let's see how generous the hospitals will be then.... get out the body bags...

Na, Insurance is not healthcare, and no one should be forced to pay for other people shit

Who said Insurance is healthcare? Are you stupid or something? And I was right when I said you'd be too dumb to understand that every time an uninsured person goes to he emergency room you're paying for their "shit." If you won't acknowledge that, I see no need to engage you further.

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

Again, forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it’s unconstitutional

That's how it's worked your entire life, dope.
That's how all insurance works.

Do you have any concept of reality? Obamacare forced us, prior to Obamacare we were not forced.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey everybody!

I got a great idea!

Lets borrow $1.5 trillion and give it to Billionaires as a Christmas present

Id rather reward them than reward worthless mentally ill entitlement addicts such as yourself. At least the wealthy contribute to society. And help take care of the worthless douchebags like you who refuse to support themselves OR assist others.

Hey everybody!

I got a GREAT IDEA!

Lets give money to people who don't need it!

/----/ I've decided you don't need all of your money. Write a check for $5,000 and send it to the US treasury to pay down the debt, you evil, selfish, greedy miser. CHOP CHOP

I pay them much more than that

 

[rightwinger]

You're probably too dumb to realize you just agreed with me. Forcing people to pay for some freeloader who gets cancer, gets in a serious accident or gets his ass whipped in a bar is unconstitutional Thats why Obama mandated that every one buy insurance to relieve the cost of emergency room visits for injured or potentially injured freeloaders from the backs of tax payers. The alternative is to stop government funded compensation to hospitals who treat people who don't have insurance. Let's see how generous the hospitals will be then.... get out the body bags...

Na, Insurance is not healthcare, and no one should be forced to pay for other people shit

Who said Insurance is healthcare? Are you stupid or something? And I was right when I said you'd be too dumb to understand that every time an uninsured person goes to he emergency room you're paying for their "shit." If you won't acknowledge that, I see no need to engage you further.

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

To forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it is unconstitutional. Dip shit

Again, forced to pay into a pool is not only a rotten concept it’s unconstitutional

That's how it's worked your entire life, dope.
That's how all insurance works.

Do you have any concept of reality? Obamacare forced us, prior to Obamacare we were not forced.

Do you have health insurance?
Why?