Every pre-born baby is conceived by, loved by, and wanted by God. The “choice” is His.

[Faun]

Whatever happened to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness?

A concept which also belongs to a pregnant woman.

Yes but doesn’t include the right to murder.

It’s not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. Abortion is legal.

That's the thing. Propaganda tells you murder isn't murder, and you believe.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

Nope, it’s not propaganda. It’s a firm grasp of the English language. According to your limited English comprehension, the death penalty is murder. Suicide is murder. Military kills during wartime are murder.

So when do we prosecute trump for ordering our military to murder ISIS?

 

[there4eyeM]

Hypocrisy is part of what makes people so human.
Yeah, pretty funny.

 

[gipper]

Whatever happened to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness?

A concept which also belongs to a pregnant woman.

Yes but doesn’t include the right to murder.

It’s not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. Abortion is legal.

That's the thing. Propaganda tells you murder isn't murder, and you believe.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

Nope, it’s not propaganda. It’s a firm grasp of the English language. According to your limited English comprehension, the death penalty is murder. Suicide is murder. Military kills during wartime are murder.

So when do we prosecute trump for ordering our military to murder ISIS?

You can call murder whatever you want...it is funny though that you have chosen to accept the State's definition.

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

 

[Olde Europe]

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

The fetus is alive, wholly dependent on the mother. It is a potential human being. Thereafter, your so-called "unassailable logic" is entirely off the rails.

 

[Windparadox]

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Every human is, loved by, and wanted by God.

 

[Faun]

A concept which also belongs to a pregnant woman.

Yes but doesn’t include the right to murder.

It’s not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. Abortion is legal.

That's the thing. Propaganda tells you murder isn't murder, and you believe.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

Nope, it’s not propaganda. It’s a firm grasp of the English language. According to your limited English comprehension, the death penalty is murder. Suicide is murder. Military kills during wartime are murder.

So when do we prosecute trump for ordering our military to murder ISIS?

You can call murder whatever you want...it is funny though that you have chosen to accept the State's definition.

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

Why wouldn’t I rely on the state’s definition of murder? “Murder” is a legal term defined by the state. The state, not you, defines the term; and no one is under any obligation to ignore the state’s definition in lieu of your made up definition.

 

[gipper]

Yes but doesn’t include the right to murder.

It’s not murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. Abortion is legal.

That's the thing. Propaganda tells you murder isn't murder, and you believe.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

Nope, it’s not propaganda. It’s a firm grasp of the English language. According to your limited English comprehension, the death penalty is murder. Suicide is murder. Military kills during wartime are murder.

So when do we prosecute trump for ordering our military to murder ISIS?

You can call murder whatever you want...it is funny though that you have chosen to accept the State's definition.

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

Why wouldn’t I rely on the state’s definition of murder? “Murder” is a legal term defined by the state. The state, not you, defines the term; and no one is under any obligation to ignore the state’s definition in lieu of your made up definition.

There it is again. You think my belief that murdering the unborn, is not murder because the state says so. Yet My belief is logical and in line with all of civilized history’s definition of murder. Abortionists changed the meaning and you accepted it. Not me.

 

[gipper]

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

The fetus is alive, wholly dependent on the mother. It is a potential human being. Thereafter, your so-called "unassailable logic" is entirely off the rails.

BS. Another made up definition by abortionists and you bought it. LOL.

A newborn is wholly dependent on it’s mother. Kill it if you want to. Murderer! Off to prison you go.

 

[gipper]

Unassailable LOGIC:
The living fetus is alive. The fetus is a human being. If you perform an abortion, it is dead. Hence, abortion is premeditated killing of a human being. Throughout ALL of human history, premeditated killing is unacceptable...well until the elites perverted our language and duped the ignorant masses with abortion.

The fetus is alive, wholly dependent on the mother. It is a potential human being. Thereafter, your so-called "unassailable logic" is entirely off the rails.

Potential Humans...WTF....okay Adolf do you also consider humans who are mentally deficient “potential humans” and worthy of extermination?

 

[buttercup]

This “potential human” thing is asinine and completely unscientific.

One is either a human being or not. There is no “potential” or partial, that’s just a deceptive way for people to try to legitimize killing babies in the womb. It’s akin to how blacks were called “3/5 of a human being” or how Jews were called “subhuman.” Evil people who want to oppress or kill others typically dehumanize them first.

 

[there4eyeM]

We repeat the same arguments here each time, and each time the facile 'thinkers' forget how their narrow view only hinders a better world. So, they trot out old tripe and pretend not to understand how absurd is their position. They insist that in this case, abortion, we must be beyond moral and humanitarian. Yet, their humanitarianism is shown for a shell, hollow at that, when all the other daily questions of life and death we all face are totally relativized, sanitized, compartmentalized. Those decisions are personal, but this, most intimate of decisions for a woman, is made to pass through a pillory of hate and derision.
Sure, no one should use abortion for simple birth control. No one should pay to have babies bombed in far away, poor, non-threatening parts of the world, but everyone paying U.S. taxes does.
Women, speak up for yourselves. This is your affair and you can justifiably make it your exclusive decision.
When a majority of adult women votes against abortion, never again will this poster ever argue in favor of the freedom to make this choice.

 

[gipper]

We repeat the same arguments here each time, and each time the facile 'thinkers' forget how their narrow view only hinders a better world. So, they trot out old tripe and pretend not to understand how absurd is their position. They insist that in this case, abortion, we must be beyond moral and humanitarian. Yet, their humanitarianism is shown for a shell, hollow at that, when all the other daily questions of life and death we all face are totally relativized, sanitized, compartmentalized. Those decisions are personal, but this, most intimate of decisions for a woman, is made to pass through a pillory of hate and derision.
Sure, no one should use abortion for simple birth control. No one should pay to have babies bombed in far away, poor, non-threatening parts of the world, but everyone paying U.S. taxes does.
Women, speak up for yourselves. This is your affair and you can justifiably make it your exclusive decision.
When a majority of adult women votes against abortion, never again will this poster ever argue in favor of the freedom to make this choice.

Nice sermon, but it is all meaningless.

I am all about liberty and freedom for all. Including the unborn. You not so much.

 

[Olde Europe]

Potential Humans...WTF....okay Adolf do you also consider humans who are mentally deficient “potential humans” and worthy of extermination?

I see, you have found someone to your liking to talk to. Enjoy!

 

[Olde Europe]

This “potential human” thing is asinine and completely unscientific.

One is either a human being or not. There is no “potential” or partial, that’s just a deceptive way for people to try to legitimize killing babies in the womb. It’s akin to how blacks were called “3/5 of a human being” or how Jews were called “subhuman.” Evil people who want to oppress or kill others typically dehumanize them first.

Your ignorance is noted.

See, for instance:

The asserted state interests are protection of the health and safety of the pregnant woman, and protection of the potential future human life within her.​

 

[gipper]

Potential Humans...WTF....okay Adolf do you also consider humans who are mentally deficient “potential humans” and worthy of extermination?

I see, you have found someone to your liking to talk to. Enjoy!

I forgive you for thinking baby murder is okay. We can’t all be moral, ethical, loving and caring.

 

[Olde Europe]

Women, speak up for yourselves. This is your affair and you can justifiably make it your exclusive decision.

No it's not, for if We the People fail to protect women from the imposition of essentially Taliban crackpottery, We the People failed.

It should also be noted (paraphrasing Paine), He, who wants his own liberty secure, must protect even the enemy from oppression, for by failing to do so he creates a precedent that will one day reach himself.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It's not murder. It's self defense.

The baby is committing assault by remaining in the mother's body without mom's consent.

But, I get the point. We should require that doctors remove the baby without killing it. Of course, it will suffer and die anyway, but mom should not have to keep that baby inside her body.

That's a fair compromise.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I forgive you for thinking baby murder is okay. We can’t all be moral, ethical, loving and caring.

I need this forgiveness, I guess. I have no sympathy for the worthless spawn of idiots. The last thing we need is to pollute the world with their moron bastards.

If I believed in hell, I would be going their for sure.

 

[buttercup]

This “potential human” thing is asinine and completely unscientific.

One is either a human being or not. There is no “potential” or partial, that’s just a deceptive way for people to try to legitimize killing babies in the womb. It’s akin to how blacks were called “3/5 of a human being” or how Jews were called “subhuman.” Evil people who want to oppress or kill others typically dehumanize them first.

Your ignorance is noted.

See, for instance:

The asserted state interests are protection of the health and safety of the pregnant woman, and protection of the potential future human life within her.​

Of course a proabort law would say that, but it’s completely unscientific and actually laughable. It already is a human life and it’s an insult to everyone’s intelligence to claim that it isn’t.

 

[gipper]

This “potential human” thing is asinine and completely unscientific.

One is either a human being or not. There is no “potential” or partial, that’s just a deceptive way for people to try to legitimize killing babies in the womb. It’s akin to how blacks were called “3/5 of a human being” or how Jews were called “subhuman.” Evil people who want to oppress or kill others typically dehumanize them first.

Your ignorance is noted.

See, for instance:

The asserted state interests are protection of the health and safety of the pregnant woman, and protection of the potential future human life within her.​

Of course a proabort law would say that, but it’s completely unscientific and actually laughable. It already is a human life and lit’s an insult to everyone’s intelligence to claim that it isn’t.

It is an insult to human intelligence, but some humans aren’t intelligent...as the baby killers in this thread have proven.