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Tell me again the story of our founding fathers VOTING our independence from England...Watch the video on previous page and it answers many questions. Simply put.Sick and Tired of being ignored by the government that's grown completely too big for its pants.With shots fired, I'd say that's quite likely. You try and kill law enforcement officers conducting a lawful probable cause arrest.......daylight isn't something you're likely to worry about for a very long time.
What is wrong with these people....seriously...
i think you should go stamp your feet some more.
the government listens when you vote and others agree. the government DOESN'T listen to people with extremist views that don't reflect the mainstream. why would it?
if you have a problem with that, you should probably go live someplace where people think more like you do. maybe russia?
Tell me again the story of our founding fathers VOTING our independence from England...
can you imagine if those were black people pointing guns at federal officers? the little loser would be in meltdown.
loons.
Cruz and Rubio Side With BLM Over Land Grab In Oregon.
Cruz and Rubio side with fed gov in stealing land.
This is a lie.View attachment 61373
I am reading through the comments A LOT of people are headed that way tomorrow...they Feds have blocked the roads and arrested a journalist not toeing the government propaganda line.
Then believe the same feds that shot a 14 year old in the back,a mother in the face unarmed,torched people to death at Waco. I DO NOT CARE.
Yeah right..... The witness Victoria is part of the group. What kind of credibility is that? 100 shots? then we should see more dead bodies instead of just one.
I think you are in the twilight zone. Come back down so you will have some common sense.
Fucking bullshit. Try taking any more hills and you will get your asses handed to you. You silly assholes are not going to get anything but long terms in the federal pen.Patriots chose the wrong hill to defend. Be patient grasshoppers, as there will be many, many more hills to defend, soon.
Yes, and if I were living in Burns, I would have joined in the protest over that. But this is no longer about the Hammond's. It is about the militia that has taken over a Federal Property, devoted to preserving the unique wildlife of that area. A Federal Property that has existed as a Wildlife Refuge for over 100 years.No one is ignoring it. The protesters are pissed they are not getting their way. Tough.Some of these hard right members who are caricatures of the Sagebrush Rebellion seem quite willing to keep on violating the law. Their way is a non-constructive way to settle the problem of federal lands coveted by the states and businesses.
If people don't figure out how to put themselves in the shoes of these folks then it will happen again if only to become martyrs.
What shoes? Are they the victims of government tyranny? What are their grievances? why can't they petition their elected officials and seek the changes they desire through our established political and legal processes? I have grievances too, but I'm not inclined to engage in an armed protest against the government. I'm not inclined to support others who use threats of armed violence as a means to get what they want. That's terrorism.
They feel they are victims of government tyranny.
Imbalance of Federal Land Ownership Sheds Light on Oregon Militia | Big Think
Armed men, led by Bundy brothers, take over federal building in rural Oregon
I am not asking you to support what they are saying. I'm simply stating that choosing to ignore it is simply going to amplify it.
Two guys do time and are released. Judge says, "Whoops! Bring them boys back in." and you cannot fathom how screwed over they feel?
You thinking they should trust the system?
Yes, and if I were living in Burns, I would have joined in the protest over that. But this is no longer about the Hammond's. It is about the militia that has taken over a Federal Property, devoted to preserving the unique wildlife of that area. A Federal Property that has existed as a Wildlife Refuge for over 100 years.No one is ignoring it. The protesters are pissed they are not getting their way. Tough.If people don't figure out how to put themselves in the shoes of these folks then it will happen again if only to become martyrs.
What shoes? Are they the victims of government tyranny? What are their grievances? why can't they petition their elected officials and seek the changes they desire through our established political and legal processes? I have grievances too, but I'm not inclined to engage in an armed protest against the government. I'm not inclined to support others who use threats of armed violence as a means to get what they want. That's terrorism.
They feel they are victims of government tyranny.
Imbalance of Federal Land Ownership Sheds Light on Oregon Militia | Big Think
Armed men, led by Bundy brothers, take over federal building in rural Oregon
I am not asking you to support what they are saying. I'm simply stating that choosing to ignore it is simply going to amplify it.
Two guys do time and are released. Judge says, "Whoops! Bring them boys back in." and you cannot fathom how screwed over they feel?
You thinking they should trust the system?
The screwball Bundy's just effectively ruined any chances the Hammond's had for a commuted sentence.
The Hammonds committed offenses that calls for a minimum mandatory sentence of five years. The Judge who sentenced went below that minimum mandatory. The prosecutors then appealed the sentence pointing out that 5 years was the minimum mandatory for the crimes they had committed. The prosecutors prevailed on appeal of the sentence.....they were not made an example ...The Hammonds were to be made an example of. That was made loud and clear.
I know they are not the equivalent. My point is that who cares if ex-berets are going to help the terrorists?Are you saying the Berets training is not equal to the Seals?And a bunch of Seals are reinforcing the feds. Grow the fuck up.Reports are a bunch of ex-Green Berets are coming to the militias aid.
The federal land belongs to all of the people and is managed by the feds. What do you not understand?They have actually had stewardship over the land since 1908....
Really? All 187,757 acres since 1908? Pull your head out. It started much, much smaller.
The refuge now encompasses 187,757 acres
Link: About the Refuge - Malheur - U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
We all know the devastating effects that are caused by wildfires. Fires intentionally and illegally set on public lands, even those in a remote area, threaten property and residents and endanger firefighters called to battle the blaze” stated Acting U.S. Attorney Billy Williams,in a statement issued after the Hammonds were sentenced. “Congress sought to ensure that anyone who maliciously damages United States’ property by fire will serve at least 5 years in prison. These sentences are intended to be long enough to deter those like the Hammonds who disregard the law and place fire fighters and others in jeopardy.”The Hammonds committed offenses that calls for a minimum mandatory sentence of five years. The Judge who sentenced went below that minimum mandatory. The prosecutors then appealed the sentence pointing out that 5 years was the minimum mandatory for the crimes they had committed. The prosecutors prevailed on appeal of the sentence.....they were not made an example ...The Hammonds were to be made an example of. That was made loud and clear.
Why is it that none of you stupid fuckers seems to understand how BLM land is used? It is multiple use for everyone: hunting, fishing, logging, mining, off road four wheeling, camping, grazing cattle and a lot more. It should be obvious to almost anyone that a government agency is needed to manage and protect this resource for future generations to use.Not federal governments right to own the land,its the people's ANY citizen can occupy it.Them boots taste good as you lick them?Feds didn't start anything. It was already started. By those idiots.
I chew them to nubbins.
Tell me more about how the Feds occupied this place and refused to leave even when the town asked them too.
