Food for thought: fascism

[bripat9643]

You've been taught to view history in a binary manner, that is what they told you was good and what they told wasn't.
Fascism, Socialism, totalitarianism are all just tools. Tools can be used for a variety of jobs. You'll fight to your last breath to say Hitler wasn't, nor did he use Socialism when that's EXCATLY what he did, why? Because the German people were ripe for a sweeping change, the treaty of Versailles basically raped Germany and they were tired of doing without. Hitler grabbed the right tool bend the people to accept what he wanted them to accept.

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

My history minor was primarily not taught, per se, since the syllabus reading list was mostly primary sources, letters, speeches, photographs, news papers and magazines, discussed in small groups by the students, moderated by TA's.

In your vast library, the books of substance will include source notes, i.e. primary sources from the past. They tell the real story of their place and time in the past - good, bad and sometimes mundane.

The bodies in photographs of Nazi death camps are not tools, they are depictions of reality, life and death under a totalitarian machine.

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

Lawrence Britt is a fraud. You're citing proven propaganda.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Fascism - Common characteristics of fascist movements

I know so many on trump's side of the aisle will not read and consider this long article on fascism, and it's history and common characteristics of fascist movements. In fact some have already posted support for much of what trump has done and is doing which mirrors many bullet points of fascism.

Fascism for me but not thee?



Your partisan slip is showing.

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[bripat9643]

There isn't? Me thinks you've never read a history book in that case.

Might want to crack one open someday. You might, and it's a very big might, learn something.

The Progressive Era | Boundless US History

Much of this I learned in a lower division undergrad course at CAL.

Ahhh yes, the realm of zinn and chomsky. Got anything that isn't filtered through their warped view of history?

In chomsky land the Cambodian mass murders under pol pot were a good thing.

Sure you want to hook your wagon to a supporter of mass murder like him?

You really are a bird brain.

Chomsky, born 1928; Zinn Bornb 1922; have nothing to do with the Progressive era which any educated person must know.

I don't support pol pot or any mass murderer of any ethnic group.

Maybe you ought to find someone as ignorant as you, you're way out of your league in any discussion with me.

The only retard is you. The progressive era has never ended. Progressive ideology never goes away, it merely changes its name.

Funny you mention ignorance. I will happily discuss ANY subject with you. If you feel you are up to it that is.

Just beware, my personal library is extensive, and I have actually read them all.

Your call.

Provide the evidence to sustain your claim that progressives are fascists. I'll prepare a rebuttal once I stop laughing.

https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fasc...criptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=ff0d01-20

 

[Pooh]

You've been taught to view history in a binary manner, that is what they told you was good and what they told wasn't.
Fascism, Socialism, totalitarianism are all just tools. Tools can be used for a variety of jobs. You'll fight to your last breath to say Hitler wasn't, nor did he use Socialism when that's EXCATLY what he did, why? Because the German people were ripe for a sweeping change, the treaty of Versailles basically raped Germany and they were tired of doing without. Hitler grabbed the right tool bend the people to accept what he wanted them to accept.

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

My history minor was primarily not taught, per se, since the syllabus reading list was mostly primary sources, letters, speeches, photographs, news papers and magazines, discussed in small groups by the students, moderated by TA's.

In your vast library, the books of substance will include source notes, i.e. primary sources from the past. They tell the real story of their place and time in the past - good, bad and sometimes mundane.

The bodies in photographs of Nazi death camps are not tools, they are depictions of reality, life and death under a totalitarian machine.

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

LOL, Wry look in the mirror YOU are being the jerk in every post, you don't like when you get it back?

Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system

 

[bripat9643]

Ahhh yes, the realm of zinn and chomsky. Got anything that isn't filtered through their warped view of history?

In chomsky land the Cambodian mass murders under pol pot were a good thing.

Sure you want to hook your wagon to a supporter of mass murder like him?

You really are a bird brain.

Chomsky, born 1928; Zinn Bornb 1922; have nothing to do with the Progressive era which any educated person must know.

I don't support pol pot or any mass murderer of any ethnic group.

Maybe you ought to find someone as ignorant as you, you're way out of your league in any discussion with me.

The only retard is you. The progressive era has never ended. Progressive ideology never goes away, it merely changes its name.

Funny you mention ignorance. I will happily discuss ANY subject with you. If you feel you are up to it that is.

Just beware, my personal library is extensive, and I have actually read them all.

Your call.

Provide the evidence to sustain your claim that progressives are fascists. I'll prepare a rebuttal once I stop laughing.

You've been taught to view history in a binary manner, that is what they told you was good and what they told wasn't.
Fascism, Socialism, totalitarianism are all just tools. Tools can be used for a variety of jobs. You'll fight to your last breath to say Hitler wasn't, nor did he use Socialism when that's EXCATLY what he did, why? Because the German people were ripe for a sweeping change, the treaty of Versailles basically raped Germany and they were tired of doing without. Hitler grabbed the right tool bend the people to accept what he wanted them to accept.

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

Sure there is. Genocide is the essence of progressivism.

 

[regent]

Most college bookstores sell booklets on ideologies.
America spent a lot of money and lives fighting fascism and the least citizens can do is their homework on fascism.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

My history minor was primarily not taught, per se, since the syllabus reading list was mostly primary sources, letters, speeches, photographs, news papers and magazines, discussed in small groups by the students, moderated by TA's.

In your vast library, the books of substance will include source notes, i.e. primary sources from the past. They tell the real story of their place and time in the past - good, bad and sometimes mundane.

The bodies in photographs of Nazi death camps are not tools, they are depictions of reality, life and death under a totalitarian machine.

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

My history minor was primarily not taught, per se, since the syllabus reading list was mostly primary sources, letters, speeches, photographs, news papers and magazines, discussed in small groups by the students, moderated by TA's.

In your vast library, the books of substance will include source notes, i.e. primary sources from the past. They tell the real story of their place and time in the past - good, bad and sometimes mundane.

The bodies in photographs of Nazi death camps are not tools, they are depictions of reality, life and death under a totalitarian machine.

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

What is looks exactly like, is Trumpism.

 

[bripat9643]

Most college bookstores sell booklets on ideologies.
America spent a lot of money and lives fighting fascism and the least citizens can do is their homework on fascism.

If they did their homework they would know that FDR was a great admirer of Mussolini.

 

[bripat9643]

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

What is looks exactly like, is Trumpism.

Says the guy who just cited a complete fraud.

 

[Pooh]

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

Is this you being a jerk?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Anyone who doubts bripat is a GD Liar ought to check my sources, proving he is not to be trusted ever.

"Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

In any event, the 14 points are clear, and anyone without bias can see most if not all of these points in Trump's Policies, Tweets and Speeches.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

Is this you being a jerk?

It's me being honest, as I always am.

 

[bripat9643]

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

I know it hurts to learn that everything you believe is a lie.

Fascism? No One? A Response to "Dr." Laurence Britt​

But the question is, should this article about the so-called Warning Signs of Fascism really be given so much stock in its validity? This is the question I will be discussing here today, digging into the truth behind the man, the article and the “Warning Signs of Fascism.”

In order to do this, we must first begin with the man behind the Warning. The internet knows him as Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scholar who studied Fascism in great detail in order to bring us these signs of its impending return, citing such examples as Mussolini’s Italy, Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Salazar’s Portugal, Suharto’s Indonesia, Pinochet’s Chile and Papadopoulos’s Greece. But who is he really? A search of the internet reveals no “Doctor Laurence Britt, political scholar,” nor can any of his works be found aside from the 14 Warning Signs themselves. Does this man exist? As it turns out, yes and no. There is no “Dr. Laurence Britt, political scientist” and there never was. There is only Laurence Britt, former executive and author of a single book, who wrote the 14 Signs. Far from being anything resembling an expert on politics, much less Fascism specifically, Britt is a former corporate executive who worked for such corporations as Allied Chemical, Mobil and Xerox Corp and studied business at Northwestern University. Armed with this information, I was able to even find a comment made by Mr Britt himself on a blog regarding his original article and the case of mistaken identity:

“For your information I never made a claim that I was a “Dr.” Someone on the internet made that ASSUMPTION when they passed on the article. I am a retired businessman with a life long interest in history and current events. I have a personal book collection on these subjects of over 3000 volumes. I’ve contributed chapters to three books, written another and am working on a second. I’ve written approximately 25 magazine and newspaper articles on political and economic affairs. I spent about 200 hours researching the fascism article building on a lifetime interest in the subject. My novel, “June, 2004″ was written in 1997 and published in 1998. It was a fictional treatment of a future of fascism in America, which has turned out quite predictive of actual events since it was published.”​

 

[bripat9643]

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

Is this you being a jerk?

It's me being honest, as I always am.

Stupid and wrong, but honest.

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone who doubts bripat is a GD Liar ought to check my sources, proving he is not to be trusted ever.

"Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

In any event, the 14 points are clear, and anyone without bias can see most if not all of these points in Trump's Policies, Tweets and Speeches.

I just posted the evidence proving that he is a fraud.

 

[Pooh]

Anyone who doubts bripat is a GD Liar ought to check my sources, proving he is not to be trusted ever.

"Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

In any event, the 14 points are clear, and anyone without bias can see most if not all of these points in Trump's Policies, Tweets and Speeches.

Yawn.

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

Lawrence Britt has been exposed as a fraud. He is not a political scientist. He's a marketing executive.

You've passed being a damn liar, you are a god damn liar.

Is this you being a jerk?

It's me being honest, as I always am.

No, you're being the jerk you accuse everyone else of being.

 

[Third Party]

Fascism - Common characteristics of fascist movements

I know so many on trump's side of the aisle will not read and consider this long article on fascism, and it's history and common characteristics of fascist movements. In fact some have already posted support for much of what trump has done and is doing which mirrors many bullet points of fascism.

You are using faulty logic-If it quacks like a duck-if it walks like a duck-it must be...Groucho Marx with a duck call. Don't over analyze that which is bullshit.

 

[Correll]

You can't deflect with me Wry, you can try but I'll hold your feet to the fire. The FACT is Hitler used "Socialism" as a tool and "fascism" is used the same way. You don't think it's odd that you have to talk about your education in nearly every post?

You don't know what Socialism is, maybe you believe you do, but socialism in Nazi Germany would have been used to manipulate the masses, yes a tool; however, a Jew, a Gypsy, a Homosexual would get a different form of treatment from a Nazi. And, Socialism is derived from Marx and Engles, and is one stage in the dialectic.

Only an absolute fool would believe Hitler's goal was to hand over the power of production to the proletariat.

I already warned you, your obfuscation won't work with me. All I said is that Socialism was a tool he used to bend the German people to his will, that's it, that's all I said. Everything else is you trying look smart. Fascism is a tool also that can be used by anyone. They are TOOLS that are not relegated to any one side of a given political system. I won't let you project your silliness to me, understand?

I get one sure thing from you, you're a jerk. (f)ascism has these characteristics:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

That kind of looks like crap. Hitler's nazi Germany was not very welcoming of organized religion.

What is looks exactly like, is Trumpism.

"Trumpish" is not hostile to organized religion like Hitler's germany was.


That is confirmation bias coming from you. And quite a bit of it.

 

[westwall]

Ahhh yes, the realm of zinn and chomsky. Got anything that isn't filtered through their warped view of history?

In chomsky land the Cambodian mass murders under pol pot were a good thing.

Sure you want to hook your wagon to a supporter of mass murder like him?

You really are a bird brain.

Chomsky, born 1928; Zinn Bornb 1922; have nothing to do with the Progressive era which any educated person must know.

I don't support pol pot or any mass murderer of any ethnic group.

Maybe you ought to find someone as ignorant as you, you're way out of your league in any discussion with me.

The only retard is you. The progressive era has never ended. Progressive ideology never goes away, it merely changes its name.

Funny you mention ignorance. I will happily discuss ANY subject with you. If you feel you are up to it that is.

Just beware, my personal library is extensive, and I have actually read them all.

Your call.

Provide the evidence to sustain your claim that progressives are fascists. I'll prepare a rebuttal once I stop laughing.

You've been taught to view history in a binary manner, that is what they told you was good and what they told wasn't.
Fascism, Socialism, totalitarianism are all just tools. Tools can be used for a variety of jobs. You'll fight to your last breath to say Hitler wasn't, nor did he use Socialism when that's EXCATLY what he did, why? Because the German people were ripe for a sweeping change, the treaty of Versailles basically raped Germany and they were tired of doing without. Hitler grabbed the right tool bend the people to accept what he wanted them to accept.

This ^^^ is not a rebuttal nor is it on topic. Hitler's policy put millions of people in graves, there is nothing progressive about that.

My history minor was primarily not taught, per se, since the syllabus reading list was mostly primary sources, letters, speeches, photographs, news papers and magazines, discussed in small groups by the students, moderated by TA's.

In your vast library, the books of substance will include source notes, i.e. primary sources from the past. They tell the real story of their place and time in the past - good, bad and sometimes mundane.

The bodies in photographs of Nazi death camps are not tools, they are depictions of reality, life and death under a totalitarian machine.

My vast library contains most of the books you had to check out of the library. I have source material going back to the 1600's.