General Powel: ****ALL 16**** Intel Agencies ***LIED*** to US

Intelligence can be wrong. And sometimes Intel agencies just lie. That's why i'm surprised so many are appalled that Trump has disputed some Intel claims. It's like 'How dare he?!' But it's actually very wise to question Intel.

Intel agencies like the CIA and NSA have their own agendas. They have to be questioned and reigned in. That's the President's job in my opinion. As the OP said, the Intel agencies were either wrong, or they just lied us into war with Iraq.


And they were about to lie us into a world war with russia.

Looks like they were headed in that direction.



Yep.

The figured that since they fooled Obama into believing that there was a civil war in Syria and that ISIS was the "Syrian Resistance" that DJT was equally gullible.


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Not giving the CIA and MIC their wars, is very dangerous. John F. Kennedy found that out. No President since, has seriously challenged the CIA and MIC.


Yes indeed.

Dulles was an son of a bitch.

And that being the case they should be abolished IMMEDIATELY.


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I have no use for 'powell' , just another lib in my opinion , just a comment !!


The point is that the "intelligence community" LIES LIKE A RUG.


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It's so sad that calling someone a liar comes so easy to those who have no personal knowledge of the experience of those they attack. A lie is an attempt to mislead; when labeling a mistake in judgment, or an utterance which proves to be wrong a lie is a cop out, unless other evidence exists.

For example, the invasion of Iraq was predicated on its possession of WMD's by the Bush Administration, and yet, many of those who signed the Project for a New American Century's Statement of Principles in 1997 sought to engage Saddam, but no effort or discussion was articulated by the same people to engage N. Korea which was a greater threat to the US than was Iraq.

Two reasons stand out as an explanation:
  1. Oil
  2. The attempt on the life of George H. W. Bush



According to Coronel Karen Kwiatkowski, USAF, Retd, she had PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE that the intel community was determied to lie us into war.


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Really? Does the Coronel have stock in Exxon?



HUH?

And that's relevant how?

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Cheney would have figured out a way to get us into Iraq regardless.
Iraq is an illustration of what happens when civilians pressure intelligence people for politically motivated conclusions. And that's what many people fear Trump will do


Bad analogy

That's what the demo_rats are doing

They want the CIA to depose him by any means necessary , including murder.


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If Trump doesn't slow down his rate of making enemies, the CIA won't need to go through the trouble.
---------------------------------------------- he is not making enemies as far as I know , these spy agencies are mrobamas agencies full of mrobamas people . Get rid of mrobamas people and everything may be alright OldSchool !!
 
Cheney would have figured out a way to get us into Iraq regardless.
Iraq is an illustration of what happens when civilians pressure intelligence people for politically motivated conclusions. And that's what many people fear Trump will do


Bad analogy

That's what the demo_rats are doing

They want the CIA to depose him by any means necessary , including murder.


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If Trump doesn't slow down his rate of making enemies, the CIA won't need to go through the trouble.
---------------------------------------------- he is not making enemies as far as I know , these spy agencies are mrobamas agencies full of mrobamas people . Get rid of mrobamas people and everything may be alright OldSchool !!
What? The people who actual do the work are career professionals. Often working for much less than corporations like ExxonMobile would pay them.
 
Cheney would have figured out a way to get us into Iraq regardless.
Iraq is an illustration of what happens when civilians pressure intelligence people for politically motivated conclusions. And that's what many people fear Trump will do


Bad analogy

That's what the demo_rats are doing

They want the CIA to depose him by any means necessary , including murder.


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If Trump doesn't slow down his rate of making enemies, the CIA won't need to go through the trouble.
---------------------------------------------- he is not making enemies as far as I know , these spy agencies are mrobamas agencies full of mrobamas people . Get rid of mrobamas people and everything may be alright OldSchool !!


He is making lots of enemies.

But you can not make an omelet without breaking eggs.

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While it's true that the intelligence community got some of the information wrong, it's also true that the Bush administration overstated information.

That being said, it's also true that Russia is an enemy of the United States. Trump and you are aiding the enemy.


WHY is Russia an enemy of the US?

FACTS not WARMONGER BULLSHIT

Putin wants to obliterate western culture. btw; that's us.
 

While it's true that the intelligence community got some of the information wrong, it's also true that the Bush administration overstated information.

That being said, it's also true that Russia is an enemy of the United States. Trump and you are aiding the enemy.


WHY is Russia an enemy of the US?

FACTS not WARMONGER BULLSHIT

Putin wants to obliterate western culture. btw; that's us.


Yep, pure warmonger bullshit.

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The intelligence may have been wrong or because it took weak ass Bush over a year to move troops in the Iraqis had plenty of time to hide the evidence. Either way it was a major fuck up by the establishment once again...drain the swamp!
 
Intelligence be damned; the invasion was illegal and was known to be illegal. They had the standing armed forces the founding fathers rightly feared and they did what they wanted with it. It was a war crime.
 
Cheney would have figured out a way to get us into Iraq regardless.
Iraq is an illustration of what happens when civilians pressure intelligence people for politically motivated conclusions. And that's what many people fear Trump will do


Bad analogy

That's what the demo_rats are doing

They want the CIA to depose him by any means necessary , including murder.


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If Trump doesn't slow down his rate of making enemies, the CIA won't need to go through the trouble.


The CIA is the enemy of the citizens of this country. They have been corrupt for decades now.
 
Not giving the CIA and MIC their wars, is very dangerous. John F. Kennedy found that out. No President since, has seriously challenged the CIA and MIC.

Cuban Exiles and The Mob took JFK down.

Period.

There is no stronger emotion that wanting to get even for the act of betrayal. And the Cuban Exiles, The Mob? JFK fucked them, but good.

And they did worse to him than he did to them
 

While it's true that the intelligence community got some of the information wrong, it's also true that the Bush administration overstated information.

That being said, it's also true that Russia is an enemy of the United States. Trump and you are aiding the enemy.


WHY is Russia an enemy of the US?

FACTS not WARMONGER BULLSHIT

Putin wants to obliterate western culture. btw; that's us.


Yep, pure warmonger bullshit..

Putin promotes nationalism. Any form of nationalism and western culture collide.
 
Intelligence be damned; the invasion was illegal and was known to be illegal. They had the standing armed forces the founding fathers rightly feared and they did what they wanted with it. It was a war crime.

"Illegal", huh?

If you talk out of your ass, which you seem to do, what orifice do you shit from?
 
Intelligence be damned; the invasion was illegal and was known to be illegal. They had the standing armed forces the founding fathers rightly feared and they did what they wanted with it. It was a war crime.


You are probably right.

But as in the case of CIA Director Dulles, he actually attempted to feed JFK bullshit information to force him to send US troops into Cuban soil.


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While it's true that the intelligence community got some of the information wrong, it's also true that the Bush administration overstated information.

That being said, it's also true that Russia is an enemy of the United States. Trump and you are aiding the enemy.


WHY is Russia an enemy of the US?

FACTS not WARMONGER BULLSHIT

Putin wants to obliterate western culture. btw; that's us.


Yep, pure warmonger bullshit..

Putin promotes nationalism. Any form of nationalism and western culture collide.


WUT?

They think they are the best and we think we are the best.

What's the harm?

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Intelligence be damned; the invasion was illegal and was known to be illegal. They had the standing armed forces the founding fathers rightly feared and they did what they wanted with it. It was a war crime.

"Illegal", huh?

If you talk out of your ass, which you seem to do, what orifice do you shit from?


Illegal is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.


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Intelligence be damned; the invasion was illegal and was known to be illegal. They had the standing armed forces the founding fathers rightly feared and they did what they wanted with it. It was a war crime.


You are probably right.

But as in the case of CIA Director Dulles, he actually attempted to feed JFK bullshit information to force him to send US troops into Cuban soil.


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Didnt JFK say he wanted to splinter the cia into a thousand pieces? Shortly thereafter, he was toast. This is how sinister, deadly, corrupt, and dangerous the cia is. Theyre a cancer that has metastasized into a beast that needs to be eradicated.
 

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