Get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!

[Redfish]

Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!


Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?

TRUMP HATERS - get used to him. he's not going away.

the more you do stupid juvenille shit like this and the whole WAH WE LOST THE ELECTION WAH the more you shove people away from your side of things. why not go after real issues? problems? find ways to work together vs. kick each other in the nuts all the time? the whole point of a 2 party system is sometimes you just don't like who is in power. sometimes quite strongly.

but in a country built for us all, this is not a single decision and when someone is president you may not like, tough shit. it happens and it will happen again. liberals need to learn to deal with it vs. pretending if they keep making shit up someone will finally give them their way.

so sure. keep this shit up and you'll have him for 8 years to say ANY DAY NOW YOU'LL SEE WE'RE RIGHT!

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

Why all the concern now? Why wasn't this a concern when Hillary was taking "Donations" from the kremlin? Talk about "coincidental".

I don't know what you're talking about. The CGI? That was investigated, wasn't it?

It was. Not only that, the Clinton's personal taxes for the last thirty years have all been released. The foundation's financial statements are also publicly available. No one has show any impropriety. If someone could have they would have done so already.

yes, and it shows that only 10% of the money collected by the Clinton foundation actually went to needy people. The rest of it went to "salaries and expenses" i.e. into Clinton bank accounts.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

TRUMP HATERS - get used to him. he's not going away.

the more you do stupid juvenille shit like this and the whole WAH WE LOST THE ELECTION WAH the more you shove people away from your side of things. why not go after real issues? problems? find ways to work together vs. kick each other in the nuts all the time? the whole point of a 2 party system is sometimes you just don't like who is in power. sometimes quite strongly.

but in a country built for us all, this is not a single decision and when someone is president you may not like, tough shit. it happens and it will happen again. liberals need to learn to deal with it vs. pretending if they keep making shit up someone will finally give them their way.

so sure. keep this shit up and you'll have him for 8 years to say ANY DAY NOW YOU'LL SEE WE'RE RIGHT!

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

Why all the concern now? Why wasn't this a concern when Hillary was taking "Donations" from the kremlin? Talk about "coincidental".

I don't know what you're talking about. The CGI? That was investigated, wasn't it?

It was. Not only that, the Clinton's personal taxes for the last thirty years have all been released. The foundation's financial statements are also publicly available. No one has show any impropriety. If someone could have they would have done so already.

yes, and it shows that only 10% of the money collected by the Clinton foundation actually went to needy people. The rest of it went to "salaries and expenses" i.e. into Clinton bank accounts.

Bullshit!

Post it up buttercup.

 

[Redfish]

TRUMP HATERS - get used to him. he's not going away.

the more you do stupid juvenille shit like this and the whole WAH WE LOST THE ELECTION WAH the more you shove people away from your side of things. why not go after real issues? problems? find ways to work together vs. kick each other in the nuts all the time? the whole point of a 2 party system is sometimes you just don't like who is in power. sometimes quite strongly.

but in a country built for us all, this is not a single decision and when someone is president you may not like, tough shit. it happens and it will happen again. liberals need to learn to deal with it vs. pretending if they keep making shit up someone will finally give them their way.

so sure. keep this shit up and you'll have him for 8 years to say ANY DAY NOW YOU'LL SEE WE'RE RIGHT!

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

No. Nothing at all like what you wrote.

Screeching BillHillery is not going to change the facts concerning pino trump.

===

I don't believe he will be impeached though. As we've seen, the GOP is utterly unable to function as a governing body. They're not called the Do Nothings for nothing. But, this will get their attention and they will block impeachment and as much punishment as they can.

Ok, dude. tell us what impeachable offenses Trump has committed. We know that Clinton lied under oath (actually both of them did). But what exactly do you think Trump has done to merit impeachment? Beating Hillary is not an impeachable offense.

 

[OldLady]

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

I believe none of that was hidden or denied. That is how detractors are "spinning" those incidents. But I'm not here to defend the Clintons. I wouldn't have entered a thread about that.
Can we discuss what I said?
Is collusion bad? Yes or no?
Is there any problem with finding out if it happened, especially if it was collusion between a sitting President's men and an adversarial government?
Clinton lost after all. Trump is in office. And I couldn't help but notice that Trump raked all our enemies over the coals at the UN General Assemby on Tuesday, except for Russia who we know attacked the root of our democracy by very intentionally interfering in our election with the hope of a particular outcome. The only thing he said to Russia was Thank You.

how do we "know" this? still waiting on valid proof and not speculation and investigations.

i would think a person NOT pushing for an outcome of their choosing would wait for evidence to be proven before "they know" something happened.

I'm not pretending to know, yet. I am, however, arguing against the posters on this thread who ARE pushing for an outcome of their choosing by saying there was no collusion. We don't know that yet, as you correctly pointed out.

 

[Redfish]

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

Why all the concern now? Why wasn't this a concern when Hillary was taking "Donations" from the kremlin? Talk about "coincidental".

I don't know what you're talking about. The CGI? That was investigated, wasn't it?

It was. Not only that, the Clinton's personal taxes for the last thirty years have all been released. The foundation's financial statements are also publicly available. No one has show any impropriety. If someone could have they would have done so already.

yes, and it shows that only 10% of the money collected by the Clinton foundation actually went to needy people. The rest of it went to "salaries and expenses" i.e. into Clinton bank accounts.

Bullshit!

Post it up buttercup.

sorry, I was wrong. It was only 5.7%

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/

 

[OldLady]

You are right that he won't go away.
Much the same of Bill and Hillary.
Why leave when there is so much money to be had. Right?

I personally wish they would all go away

Don't you care if Russia meddled in our elections?

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

 

[Redfish]

Don't you care if Russia meddled in our elections?

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

OK, you just made an statement that the Russians covertly influenced the American electorate. WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY DO? TELL US OR STFU.

 

[OldLady]

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

*if*.

we don't impeach, kill, nor send people away for *if*. russia may, oddly enough.

but *we* don't.

unless you wanna be more like russia...

I had not heard of anyone being impeached, killed or exhiled as a result of this investigation. Except the Russian diplomats that were sent home.

so please tell us. What exactly do you think the Russians did?

Our intelligence agencies made it clear what the Russians did. In classified sessions with the Congress, they gave additional information we are not privvy to. Congress has no question Russia interfered.

 

[Redfish]

Don't you care if Russia meddled in our elections?

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

He used American taxpayer money to fund the campaign of Netanyahu's opponent. Do you live under a rock somewhere?

 

[TNHarley]

Don't you care if Russia meddled in our elections?

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

he did a lot more than that. He even used TAX PAYER MONEY
This was a proposal that was written by the group that received the money
‘Shift support within the Knesset from a Likud-centric coalition to a center left coalition through public education and grassroots mobilization initiatives.’”

 

[OldLady]

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

OK, you just made an statement that the Russians covertly influenced the American electorate. WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY DO? TELL US OR STFU.

Ummmmm....I'm not writing a report on eight month old news. Look it up on Google. More details will likely come out of the Special Investigation, since that is what they are investigating.

 

[debbiedowner]

Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!


Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?

TRUMP HATERS - get used to him. he's not going away.

the more you do stupid juvenille shit like this and the whole WAH WE LOST THE ELECTION WAH the more you shove people away from your side of things. why not go after real issues? problems? find ways to work together vs. kick each other in the nuts all the time? the whole point of a 2 party system is sometimes you just don't like who is in power. sometimes quite strongly.

but in a country built for us all, this is not a single decision and when someone is president you may not like, tough shit. it happens and it will happen again. liberals need to learn to deal with it vs. pretending if they keep making shit up someone will finally give them their way.

so sure. keep this shit up and you'll have him for 8 years to say ANY DAY NOW YOU'LL SEE WE'RE RIGHT!

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

I agree. Didn't in one of the very first few hearings a person testify from intelligence or security that Russia had meddled going back 40 years or so? I know it's probably impossible to investigate back that far but 15 years I can see and every President, VP, senate and congressman and Secretaries of each department should be investigated and dealt with.

 

[OldLady]

Tell us exactly what Russia did to change the outcome of our election. What did they do? How many votes were changed? Specifically, what did the Russians do?

BTW, Wikileaks is not Russia.

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

He used American taxpayer money to fund the campaign of Netanyahu's opponent. Do you live under a rock somewhere?

No, I just don't subscribe to Breitbart. I'd ask for a link, but you've gone wildly off topic.

 

[Redfish]

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

*if*.

we don't impeach, kill, nor send people away for *if*. russia may, oddly enough.

but *we* don't.

unless you wanna be more like russia...

I had not heard of anyone being impeached, killed or exhiled as a result of this investigation. Except the Russian diplomats that were sent home.

so please tell us. What exactly do you think the Russians did?

Our intelligence agencies made it clear what the Russians did. In classified sessions with the Congress, they gave additional information we are not privvy to. Congress has no question Russia interfered.

So you don't know, but you continue repeating what you have been told by biased media outlets------------how fricken brilliant.

IF the Russians tapped the DNC servers and gave that info to wikileaks (which WL said did not happen) what exactly is wrong with that? Why shouldn't the American voters know about collusion and corruption within the DNC, the Hillary campaign, and the media?

So congress KNOWS that the Russians leaked the truth about the DNC. Sure, and I have some beachfront property in Kansas for sale at a really good price.

 

[Care4all]

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

I believe none of that was hidden or denied. That is how detractors are "spinning" those incidents. But I'm not here to defend the Clintons. I wouldn't have entered a thread about that.
Can we discuss what I said?
Is collusion bad? Yes or no?
Is there any problem with finding out if it happened, especially if it was collusion between a sitting President's men and an adversarial government?
Clinton lost after all. Trump is in office. And I couldn't help but notice that Trump raked all our enemies over the coals at the UN General Assemby on Tuesday, except for Russia who we know attacked the root of our democracy by very intentionally interfering in our election with the hope of a particular outcome. The only thing he said to Russia was Thank You.

how do we "know" this? still waiting on valid proof and not speculation and investigations.

i would think a person NOT pushing for an outcome of their choosing would wait for evidence to be proven before "they know" something happened.

I'm not pretending to know, yet. I am, however, arguing against the posters on this thread who ARE pushing for an outcome of their choosing by saying there was no collusion. We don't know that yet, as you correctly pointed out.

There was collusion, that has been proven...the Donny Jr, Manafort and Kushner meeting with the 5 Russian operatives, and the changing of the Repulican plank in favor of Putin over the Ukraine requested by the Russians.

What we don't know is if any of it had monetary value and if there was a quid pro quo.... which is what I believe Mueller is trying to find out....That would be criminal.

 

[Redfish]

According to the accusations they put out a lot of falsehood riddled "news" on the Internet which some as yet undetermined portion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe in addition to lifting some truths from DNC mailboxes which much of the gullible electorate-D refused to believe.

So basically the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle, personally I think the American Citizenry would be better served by hiring the Russians to investigate the Republicans and the Democrats, we might actually get to the bottom of how we've been REALLY duped.

the Russkies are accused of doing the same shit both parties and their networks of sycophants do every election cycle,
You're not wrong. The problem with this is that the Russians are not American political parties. They are an adversarial foreign power.

True but what's your point?

I didn't see anybody in the U.S. throwing a tantrum when we engineered a coup de'etat to oust Mossadegh or when we did the same thing to Allende or when the Big "O" and his merry band of appartchiks tried to sway the Israeli elections.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and either our electorate wakes up and takes responsibility for being informed by more than social media propaganda, stand up comedy routines and innuendo before stepping into the voting booth or adversarial foreign governemtns are likely going to avail themselves of the same liberties that our federal geniuses have been taking with the internal politics of other countries for decades.

Obama coming out publicly in support of his viewpoints prior to the Israeli elections is NOT the same as covertly influencing the American electorate the way Russia did.

He used American taxpayer money to fund the campaign of Netanyahu's opponent. Do you live under a rock somewhere?

No, I just don't subscribe to Breitbart. I'd ask for a link, but you've gone wildly off topic.

I am only pointing out the hypocrisy of you on the left. Guilt by accusation is not how we do things in this country

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

No. Nothing at all like what you wrote.

Screeching BillHillery is not going to change the facts concerning pino trump.

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I don't believe he will be impeached though. As we've seen, the GOP is utterly unable to function as a governing body. They're not called the Do Nothings for nothing. But, this will get their attention and they will block impeachment and as much punishment as they can.

Ok, dude. tell us what impeachable offenses Trump has committed. We know that Clinton lied under oath (actually both of them did). But what exactly do you think Trump has done to merit impeachment? Beating Hillary is not an impeachable offense.

Like I said, susceptible to fake news.

Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go? - FactCheck.org

"Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity."

 

[Redfish]

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

I believe none of that was hidden or denied. That is how detractors are "spinning" those incidents. But I'm not here to defend the Clintons. I wouldn't have entered a thread about that.
Can we discuss what I said?
Is collusion bad? Yes or no?
Is there any problem with finding out if it happened, especially if it was collusion between a sitting President's men and an adversarial government?
Clinton lost after all. Trump is in office. And I couldn't help but notice that Trump raked all our enemies over the coals at the UN General Assemby on Tuesday, except for Russia who we know attacked the root of our democracy by very intentionally interfering in our election with the hope of a particular outcome. The only thing he said to Russia was Thank You.

how do we "know" this? still waiting on valid proof and not speculation and investigations.

i would think a person NOT pushing for an outcome of their choosing would wait for evidence to be proven before "they know" something happened.

I'm not pretending to know, yet. I am, however, arguing against the posters on this thread who ARE pushing for an outcome of their choosing by saying there was no collusion. We don't know that yet, as you correctly pointed out.

There was collusion, that has been proven...the Donny Jr, Manafort and Kushner meeting with the 5 Russian operatives, and the changing of the Repulican plank in favor of Putin over the Ukraine requested by the Russians.

What we don't know is if any of it had monetary value and if there was a quid pro quo.... which is what I believe Mueller is trying to find out....That would be criminal.

You don't KNOW any of that. That is what is being alleged by the dems. The meeting was requested by the Russians claiming to have some campaign dirt on Hillary, while they actually wanted to bring up an old bill about Russian adoptions.

Damn, where do you get this shit?

 

[dturner1157]

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

No. Nothing at all like what you wrote.

Screeching BillHillery is not going to change the facts concerning pino trump.

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I don't believe he will be impeached though. As we've seen, the GOP is utterly unable to function as a governing body. They're not called the Do Nothings for nothing. But, this will get their attention and they will block impeachment and as much punishment as they can.

Ok, dude. tell us what impeachable offenses Trump has committed. We know that Clinton lied under oath (actually both of them did). But what exactly do you think Trump has done to merit impeachment? Beating Hillary is not an impeachable offense.

Like I said, susceptible to fake news.

Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go? - FactCheck.org

"Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity."

Would the people of Haiti agree?

 

[Redfish]

why does that matter so much when others peoples dealings with foreigners dont matter? Somehow this is bad and the others isnt, im sure

Collusion WOULD be bad, if it happened, wouldn't it?

Collusion? Like the Russian uranium deal? Like Bill Clinton getting millions for speeches in Russia? Like Clinton and Lynch meeting and making a deal on a secret runway? Like Hillary and Comey and Lynch covering up violations of national security laws? That kind collusion?

No. Nothing at all like what you wrote.

Screeching BillHillery is not going to change the facts concerning pino trump.

===

I don't believe he will be impeached though. As we've seen, the GOP is utterly unable to function as a governing body. They're not called the Do Nothings for nothing. But, this will get their attention and they will block impeachment and as much punishment as they can.

Ok, dude. tell us what impeachable offenses Trump has committed. We know that Clinton lied under oath (actually both of them did). But what exactly do you think Trump has done to merit impeachment? Beating Hillary is not an impeachable offense.

Like I said, susceptible to fake news.

Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go? - FactCheck.org

"Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity."

and Chelsea gets a salary of 600K for doing exactly what?