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B!tch, it's not about trumps whoring 12 years ago. it's about his LYING 2 years ago during the campaign...and bribery.Where's the russia collusion connection?
Who is lying...Rudy or trump?
What trump did 12 years ago with some whore is irrelevant. Where is the russia collusion connection?
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then work to make showing tax returns being public part of running for office.Bush92, post: 19853656Post yours online. Nope? Didn’t think so.
Last I checked I'm not running for president.
If I run for dog catcher I will be happy to.
I'd be proud to post my tax returns. All the white trash Trumpo losers would be jealous - we pay more in taxes than most of them make.
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and the dems have so damaged the dem brand they've lost support of the next generation of voters in millenials. they continue on this path they lose more.So, you are admitting Trump is guilty and cutting him loose? Very smart of you. no guarantee that Pence will ever be elected..Trump has so damaged the Republican brand that I doubt that Pence will ever win anything.How does President Pence sound to you?'An MO For Other More Serious Crimes'
I know everyone has a take on this Rudy/Cohen shit-show, but I thought I would give you some perspective from someone steeped in anti-corruption enforcement (both domestic and foreign) on the prosecution and defense side.
As we already know, Michael Cohen is the prototypical fixer or bagman. In Mexico, as discussed in glorious detail in this NY Times expose on Wal-Mart’s massive corruption scandal in Mexico , a lawyer-fixer like Cohen would be known as a “gestore.” The bagman’s job is to get bribe money to people while insulating and giving deniability to the ultimate payor of the bribe. Having a dirty lawyer as a bagman provides a number of advantages.
First, bribe money can be laundered from the “client” through the lawyer as fictitious legal services. The lawyer can issue bogus invoices to the client in amounts sufficient to cover bribe payments, a commission to the lawyer, and a gross-up for any taxes the lawyer would have to pay on the fee income (bagmen, after all, don’t want to be stuck paying taxes on amounts they pay out as bribes). Sound familiar?
Second, by disguising the bribes as payments for legal fees, businesses can try to write them off as expenses (bribes are not deductible). This is tax evasion, of course, but it is common practice for the corrupt. Third, the lawyer-client relationship can be an impediment to law enforcement. It can be very difficult for prosecutors to pierce what appears on the surface to be a legitimate attorney-client relationship.
So now we have Giuliani confirming that this is exactly how Trump and Cohen operated. Hush money to Stormy Daniels is one thing and certainly raises potential serious campaign finance violations, but she is not a public official. What I find most significant about Rudy’s admission is what it says about the nature of the relationship between Trump and Cohen and how it suggests an M.O. for other more serious crimes.
Trump is a major real estate developer in NY who has openly bragged about his ability to cut through red tape and get politicians in his pocket. We now have serious SDNY public corruption prosecutors and FBI agents in possession of a massive amount of electronic data from his bagman. They likely already have all of his financial records as well. And Rudy has now given them the roadmap for how Trump may have laundered bribes through Cohen as purported legal fees or retainer payments. Every invoice Cohen has ever issued to Trump is suspect. Every corrupt payment Cohen has ever made or facilitated to building inspectors, councilmen, pornstars, or whomever can potentially be tied back to Trump. In addition, I suspect Trump and his kids had a false sense of comfort that their communications with Cohen would be privileged. I am convinced this is why Trump and his family are freaking out about the Cohen raid and the possibility he could flip. The SDNY is sitting on the mother lode of evidence and Rudy has given them the connection between purported legal fees and payments by Cohen to third parties.
Has nothing to do about his campaign. Again, where is the russia collusion connection?
Be glad it is not Ferdinand. Every time I see that bull in the cartoon,I end up with that!
Anyone else remember it?
It’s called giving your lawyer a blank checkYou idiotic liberals have a propensity to jump to whatever false conclusions might support your narrative.All hell breaking loose over on Twitter. Rudy trending #1 for hours, now down to #2, Hannity #3 - Can't wait to see Trump tweets tomorrow.
Rudy is already backpedaling, of course; but it's too late. He said all that he said on live TV, and it was BAD.
In a wide-ranging interview on Fox News' "Hannity" on Wednesday night, Rudy Giuliani told host Sean Hannity that President Donald Trump reimbursed his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, $130,000 that Cohen paid to adult film actress Stormy Daniels days before the 2016 election in exchange for her silence about a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.
"That money was not campaign money," said Giuliani, a recent addition to Trump's legal team who is also a former mayor of New York City and Republican presidential candidate. "It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation."
"They funneled the payment through [Cohen's] law firm," Hannity said.
"Funneled it through the law firm and the president repaid it," Giuliani said.
Giuliani says Trump repaid $130G to Cohen 'over several months'
Which of course all flies directly in the face of what Trump said on Air Force One a bit back.
Trump: Michael Cohen 'Represented Me' in Stormy Daniels Negotiations | National Review
Asked by reporters aboard Air Force One whether he knew of the payment when it was made, Trump replied simply, “No.”
“You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen,” Trump said when pressed on why the payment was made. “Michael is my attorney. You’ll have to ask Michael.” He added that he didn’t know where the $130,000 came from.
Nothing quite like standing in the doorway of AF1 and lying to the American people.
Michael Avenatti was damn near shocked speechless. Tomorrow promises to be all kinds of interesting.
Wonder if Rudy gets fired.
You also failed to reveal here that Giuliani explained how it is common that clients often pay them for expenses without knowing what they were. I have done that myself.
Trump could have paid Cohen before knowing some of the expenses went to cover Cohen's payment to the gold digging porn star.
Be glad it is not Ferdinand. Every time I see that bull in the cartoon,I end up with that!
Anyone else remember it?
I've heard of Ferdinand but think I missed it for whatever reason.
LordBrownTrout, post: 19853915Has nothing to do about his campaign. Again, where is the russia collusion connection?
We learned from other posters that Trumpo is so wealthy and uses fixers to handle his "dirty"
Issues that he can't keep track of all his money.
That makes every single one of Trumpo's business desls, bank records, tax records part of the Collusion connection.
The man is shady and corruptible. His personal wealth won him the presidency. We must know everything about how he got it and still gets it,
If you love this country you would want to know too.
Moron.Ummm.... Giuliani said the money was paid back for the costs of the hush money. That's a violation of campaign finance laws.I knew the morons would come out in force on this.. Attorney provides services from his accounts. Bills the client and the client pays his bills.. Did he actually know or was it the fact trump had over 300 lawyers and someone else is paid to pay his bills.Giuliani Says Trump Repaid Lawyer For $130,000 Payment To Stormy Daniels
Lol. Thank you Uncle Rudy!
I thought Trump didn't know about the payment?
Expect Rudy to be fired soon.
Rudy only indicated that he paid the attorney for HIS SERVICES. What Trump knew or didn't know is still in question.
Get a new Meme. The whore on TV is old an worn out..
And he said the money was paid back in payments of $35,000, which was just a little extra, knowing there was no work being done in exchange ... that's money laundering and fraud and depending on how they handle the taxes on that money, could be tax evasion.
Are ya tired of winning yet?
Are you truly that dumb?
THE MONEY DID NOT COME FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!!!!!
Moron.Ummm.... Giuliani said the money was paid back for the costs of the hush money. That's a violation of campaign finance laws.I knew the morons would come out in force on this.. Attorney provides services from his accounts. Bills the client and the client pays his bills.. Did he actually know or was it the fact trump had over 300 lawyers and someone else is paid to pay his bills.Giuliani Says Trump Repaid Lawyer For $130,000 Payment To Stormy Daniels
Lol. Thank you Uncle Rudy!
I thought Trump didn't know about the payment?
Expect Rudy to be fired soon.
Rudy only indicated that he paid the attorney for HIS SERVICES. What Trump knew or didn't know is still in question.
Get a new Meme. The whore on TV is old an worn out..
And he said the money was paid back in payments of $35,000, which was just a little extra, knowing there was no work being done in exchange ... that's money laundering and fraud and depending on how they handle the taxes on that money, could be tax evasion.
Are ya tired of winning yet?
Are you truly that dumb?
THE MONEY DID NOT COME FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!!!!!
It doesn’t have to. But if it goes towards the campaign, it must be reported. His $130,000 hush money was not reported.
It went towards his campaign and was not reported. That’s a violation of campaign finance laws.A.) Trump broke no law.Giuliani Says Trump Repaid Lawyer For $130,000 Payment To Stormy Daniels
Lol. Thank you Uncle Rudy!
I thought Trump didn't know about the payment?
Expect Rudy to be fired soon.
B.) He might not have known about the payment being to cover payout to Daniels. Probably accountants though it was just a legal bill. The guys rich don’t you know. It is impossible for him to keep track of all his $$$.
Don’t have since I never said it was.Moron.Ummm.... Giuliani said the money was paid back for the costs of the hush money. That's a violation of campaign finance laws.I knew the morons would come out in force on this.. Attorney provides services from his accounts. Bills the client and the client pays his bills.. Did he actually know or was it the fact trump had over 300 lawyers and someone else is paid to pay his bills.Giuliani Says Trump Repaid Lawyer For $130,000 Payment To Stormy Daniels
Lol. Thank you Uncle Rudy!
I thought Trump didn't know about the payment?
Expect Rudy to be fired soon.
Rudy only indicated that he paid the attorney for HIS SERVICES. What Trump knew or didn't know is still in question.
Get a new Meme. The whore on TV is old an worn out..
And he said the money was paid back in payments of $35,000, which was just a little extra, knowing there was no work being done in exchange ... that's money laundering and fraud and depending on how they handle the taxes on that money, could be tax evasion.
Are ya tired of winning yet?
Are you truly that dumb?
THE MONEY DID NOT COME FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!!!!!
It doesn’t have to. But if it goes towards the campaign, it must be reported. His $130,000 hush money was not reported.
You'll enlighten us on how this is connected to russian collusion......no, you won't.
I was very clear, but I will expound for you slower thinkers.So, you are admitting Trump is guilty and cutting him loose? Very smart of you. no guarantee that Pence will ever be elected..Trump has so damaged the Republican brand that I doubt that Pence will ever win anything.How does President Pence sound to you?'An MO For Other More Serious Crimes'
I know everyone has a take on this Rudy/Cohen shit-show, but I thought I would give you some perspective from someone steeped in anti-corruption enforcement (both domestic and foreign) on the prosecution and defense side.
As we already know, Michael Cohen is the prototypical fixer or bagman. In Mexico, as discussed in glorious detail in this NY Times expose on Wal-Mart’s massive corruption scandal in Mexico , a lawyer-fixer like Cohen would be known as a “gestore.” The bagman’s job is to get bribe money to people while insulating and giving deniability to the ultimate payor of the bribe. Having a dirty lawyer as a bagman provides a number of advantages.
First, bribe money can be laundered from the “client” through the lawyer as fictitious legal services. The lawyer can issue bogus invoices to the client in amounts sufficient to cover bribe payments, a commission to the lawyer, and a gross-up for any taxes the lawyer would have to pay on the fee income (bagmen, after all, don’t want to be stuck paying taxes on amounts they pay out as bribes). Sound familiar?
Second, by disguising the bribes as payments for legal fees, businesses can try to write them off as expenses (bribes are not deductible). This is tax evasion, of course, but it is common practice for the corrupt. Third, the lawyer-client relationship can be an impediment to law enforcement. It can be very difficult for prosecutors to pierce what appears on the surface to be a legitimate attorney-client relationship.
So now we have Giuliani confirming that this is exactly how Trump and Cohen operated. Hush money to Stormy Daniels is one thing and certainly raises potential serious campaign finance violations, but she is not a public official. What I find most significant about Rudy’s admission is what it says about the nature of the relationship between Trump and Cohen and how it suggests an M.O. for other more serious crimes.
Trump is a major real estate developer in NY who has openly bragged about his ability to cut through red tape and get politicians in his pocket. We now have serious SDNY public corruption prosecutors and FBI agents in possession of a massive amount of electronic data from his bagman. They likely already have all of his financial records as well. And Rudy has now given them the roadmap for how Trump may have laundered bribes through Cohen as purported legal fees or retainer payments. Every invoice Cohen has ever issued to Trump is suspect. Every corrupt payment Cohen has ever made or facilitated to building inspectors, councilmen, pornstars, or whomever can potentially be tied back to Trump. In addition, I suspect Trump and his kids had a false sense of comfort that their communications with Cohen would be privileged. I am convinced this is why Trump and his family are freaking out about the Cohen raid and the possibility he could flip. The SDNY is sitting on the mother lode of evidence and Rudy has given them the connection between purported legal fees and payments by Cohen to third parties.
Personal loans from the candidate - FEC.govUmmm.... Giuliani said the money was paid back for the costs of the hush money. That's a violation of campaign finance laws.I knew the morons would come out in force on this.. Attorney provides services from his accounts. Bills the client and the client pays his bills.. Did he actually know or was it the fact trump had over 300 lawyers and someone else is paid to pay his bills.Giuliani Says Trump Repaid Lawyer For $130,000 Payment To Stormy Daniels
Lol. Thank you Uncle Rudy!
I thought Trump didn't know about the payment?
Expect Rudy to be fired soon.
Rudy only indicated that he paid the attorney for HIS SERVICES. What Trump knew or didn't know is still in question.
Get a new Meme. The whore on TV is old an worn out..
And he said the money was paid back in payments of $35,000, which was just a little extra, knowing there was no work being done in exchange ... that's money laundering and fraud and depending on how they handle the taxes on that money, could be tax evasion.
Are ya tired of winning yet?
Are you truly that dumb?
THE MONEY DID NOT COME FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS!!!!!
LordBrownTrout, post: 19853915Has nothing to do about his campaign. Again, where is the russia collusion connection?
We learned from other posters that Trumpo is so wealthy and uses fixers to handle his "dirty"
Issues that he can't keep track of all his money.
That makes every single one of Trumpo's business desls, bank records, tax records part of the Collusion connection.
The man is shady and corruptible. His personal wealth won him the presidency. We must know everything about how he got it and still gets it,
If you love this country you would want to know too.
