Global warming is speeding up.

[myself]

CrusaderFrank

The thing is, it may not have been so if the U.S. hadn't sent so many of our manufacturing jobs to the wage slave country. With lax or nonexistent environmental standards.

 

[myself]

westwall

No need to look this up. I will show it to you. There are many like it. From various places. Such as Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, NOAA, etc.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot

I don't think the Permian extinction was caused by methane. If I recall right, it was caused mostly by a vast volcanic eruption called the Siberian Traps. And according to one program I was watching, that was caused by a recently discovered huge asteroid impact directly on the opposite side of the earth from the area. Possibly the largest asteroid impact known. And the converging shock waves in Siberia set off the Siberian Traps eruptions.

I don't think the Permian extinction was caused by methane.

Every time methane rises and ice melts, everything goes extinct, right?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot

Try pointing out a specific point. Just being willing to try and talk me to death isn't going to make you right.

60% warmer? What does that even mean?
Sounds like something you made up.

 

[Leo123]

Where I live it's 100 degrees....but.....it's summer and it has been 100 every summer I can remember. The only thing that has changed is the addition of the 'global warming' narrative to what is a normal, cyclical climate change.

 

[Leo123]

Toddsterpatriot

Global warming, not surprisingly, started with the industrial revolution.

That has not been proven.

 

[Leo123]

westwall

No need to look this up. I will show it to you. There are many like it. From various places. Such as Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, NOAA, etc.

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.016 degress F per year (since 1940) ain't that much. That is, if the data that produced this graph is even accurate which, we have seen may not be because of various factors. Also, please note that your graph leaves out historical data from 1880 back. BTW, when was it ever -1.0 degrees F? Maybe you could 'splain that graph a bit better?

 

[myself]

Leo123

Sounds like you need to move.

 

[Leo123]

CrusaderFrank

The thing is, it may not have been so if the U.S. hadn't sent so many of our manufacturing jobs to the wage slave country. With lax or nonexistent environmental standards.

You can partially thank the global warming environmentalist wank jobs for declaring manufacturing plants polluters and assigning draconian restrictions and fines on them.

 

[myself]

Leo123

From everything I have seen, it has. And here is one of many graphs for you.

 

[Flash]

Markle

That makes sense. CO2 goes up, temperatures rise. At least that's the way things usually work.

You are confused.

There is no proof that CO2 levels at the levels we see now are causing a rise in the temperature.

There have been times when the CO2 was lower than it is now and the the earth was warmer. There have been times with the CO2 levels were higher (much higher) and the temperature was lower (much lower).

The other thing is that we have data to prove that CO2 levels usually lags temperature changes. If CO2 levels caused the temperature changes then it would be the other way around, wouldn't it?

These Environmental Wackos always forget to mention science like this.

 

[Leo123]

Leo123

Sounds like you need to move.

Why? Did I complain? NO!! I stated a fact to which you apparently have no cogent response.

 

[Leo123]

Leo123

From everything I have seen, it has. And here is one of many graphs for you.

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I responded to your graph. Do you even read the posts?

 

[myself]

Leo123

No. It all comes down to slavery. Which has never really went away. The average American makes around $19.00 dollars an hour. The average Chinese makes around $3.00 an hour. Obviously there is more money to be made by having the Chinese make it. All the while, the U.S. goes down the toilet. To the point that now Biden says that the most lethal threat to the U.S. are the very same kinds of people who created it.

 

[myself]

Leo123

You didn't like that graph? Try this one.

 

[Flash]

And since the beginning of the industrial revolution, it has been rising.

You are confused.

The earth has been getting warmer since the end of the last ice age. It is a natural occurrence.

This silly ass correlation about the Industrial Revolution that is quoted all the time has no scientific validity.

First of all prior to about the mid of the last century we really had no idea what the temperature of the earth was. We had very little data from the Southern Hemisphere and a large part of Asia. Most temperature data was from big cities in Europe and the US. Hardly representative.

Second of all the clowns that quote that data have been caught red handed many times are lying about the data. They even admit it. That is why they make up and cherry pick data and their predictions never come true.

Climate change is a reality. Man made climate change is a scam.

If you fall for the scam then you are a fool.

 

[Flash]

Leo123

You didn't like that graph? Try this one.

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You are confused.

Ice cores are local weather and not representative of world wide global temps.

Besides, we have found on many occasions that these Environmental Wackos cherry pick the data to give whatever they want. They even admit doing it.

 

[Leo123]

Leo123

No. It all comes down to slavery. Which has never really went away. The average American makes around $19.00 dollars an hour. The average Chinese makes around $3.00 an hour. Obviously there is more money to be made by having the Chinese make it. All the while, the U.S. goes down the toilet. To the point that now Biden says that the most lethal threat to the U.S. are the very same kinds of people who created it.

Working at a job in the U.S. is not slavery. Lots of folks in the U.S. started making meager wages but were free to enhance their wages by moving to better paying jobs and a lot of them started their own companies and flourished. That is still the case here in America.

In China, real slave labor keeps the prices of their products low and, they do not labor under the same environmental restrictions. That, combined with environmentalists and especially leftist-Democrat policies which COST companies more and more, is the reason manufacturing has moved to China.

Biden is a fool, at least Trump was making China pay.

 

[myself]

Flash

It is a known FACT that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. But it isn't the only factor in global temperatures. What you say is true. And for most of earth's history, things have been much warmer. And who knows the various reasons why precisely. Though there is one thing that isn't in doubt. Which is the rate at which CO2 and global temperatures have been rising in the past 100 years or so. I will show you a graph of how hot things were in the past. To me, things are hot enough right now. I wasn't evolved to and I don't think I would like to live on a earth where the temperatures were as hot as they were in the past.

 

[myself]

Leo123

Because 100 degrees is too hot. For me, 90 degrees is too hot.