Governor of California begs Trump admin for federal help.

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Like I said, nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour. It is a capital reason for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wages. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour is more cost effective than means tested welfare and does not encourage Individuals to have children for (individual) unemployment compensation; but, helps potential labor market participants be a "ready reserve" labor pool.

Nope, all that does is create more lowlifes that want to live off of other people's labor. It encourages them not to try and better themselves.


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You have to do better than right wing propaganda and rhetoric. All you have, is an unsubstantiated opinion, nothing more. You need to substantiate it with a valid, economic argument. Now you know, why I don't take the right wing seriously about economics, or the law.

Unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour is more cost effective than means tested welfare and does not encourage Individuals to have children for (individual) unemployment compensation; but, helps potential labor market participants be a "ready reserve" labor pool.

Utter bull. What's the difference between welfare and unemployment if neither are looking for a job?

Living off the taxpayer is living off the taxpayer no matter what program you are using. If a person truly wants to work, it doesn't matter if they want to work while being on welfare or want to work while living on unemployment.

Unemployment is an insurance in the event you lose your job through no fault of your own.
This is why Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Welfare is means tested for income, unemployment compensation is not. And, unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

Simply correcting for that natural rate of capital inefficiency, will solve simple poverty and act as an economic stimulus on a consistent basis.

Only capital has to work under any form of capitalism. Only the national socialist right wing, never gets it. The law is employment at the will of either party, not just the employer.

Only the right wing, is cognitively dissonant enough to complain about illegals to the law; when they condone that very same, illegality to the law.

You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.
 
Nope, all that does is create more lowlifes that want to live off of other people's labor. It encourages them not to try and better themselves.


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You have to do better than right wing propaganda and rhetoric. All you have, is an unsubstantiated opinion, nothing more. You need to substantiate it with a valid, economic argument. Now you know, why I don't take the right wing seriously about economics, or the law.

Unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour is more cost effective than means tested welfare and does not encourage Individuals to have children for (individual) unemployment compensation; but, helps potential labor market participants be a "ready reserve" labor pool.

Utter bull. What's the difference between welfare and unemployment if neither are looking for a job?

Living off the taxpayer is living off the taxpayer no matter what program you are using. If a person truly wants to work, it doesn't matter if they want to work while being on welfare or want to work while living on unemployment.

Unemployment is an insurance in the event you lose your job through no fault of your own.
This is why Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Welfare is means tested for income, unemployment compensation is not. And, unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

Simply correcting for that natural rate of capital inefficiency, will solve simple poverty and act as an economic stimulus on a consistent basis.

Only capital has to work under any form of capitalism. Only the national socialist right wing, never gets it. The law is employment at the will of either party, not just the employer.

Only the right wing, is cognitively dissonant enough to complain about illegals to the law; when they condone that very same, illegality to the law.

You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
 
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You have to do better than right wing propaganda and rhetoric. All you have, is an unsubstantiated opinion, nothing more. You need to substantiate it with a valid, economic argument. Now you know, why I don't take the right wing seriously about economics, or the law.

Unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour is more cost effective than means tested welfare and does not encourage Individuals to have children for (individual) unemployment compensation; but, helps potential labor market participants be a "ready reserve" labor pool.

Utter bull. What's the difference between welfare and unemployment if neither are looking for a job?

Living off the taxpayer is living off the taxpayer no matter what program you are using. If a person truly wants to work, it doesn't matter if they want to work while being on welfare or want to work while living on unemployment.

Unemployment is an insurance in the event you lose your job through no fault of your own.
This is why Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Welfare is means tested for income, unemployment compensation is not. And, unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

Simply correcting for that natural rate of capital inefficiency, will solve simple poverty and act as an economic stimulus on a consistent basis.

Only capital has to work under any form of capitalism. Only the national socialist right wing, never gets it. The law is employment at the will of either party, not just the employer.

Only the right wing, is cognitively dissonant enough to complain about illegals to the law; when they condone that very same, illegality to the law.

You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.
 
Utter bull. What's the difference between welfare and unemployment if neither are looking for a job?

Living off the taxpayer is living off the taxpayer no matter what program you are using. If a person truly wants to work, it doesn't matter if they want to work while being on welfare or want to work while living on unemployment.

Unemployment is an insurance in the event you lose your job through no fault of your own.
This is why Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Welfare is means tested for income, unemployment compensation is not. And, unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

Simply correcting for that natural rate of capital inefficiency, will solve simple poverty and act as an economic stimulus on a consistent basis.

Only capital has to work under any form of capitalism. Only the national socialist right wing, never gets it. The law is employment at the will of either party, not just the employer.

Only the right wing, is cognitively dissonant enough to complain about illegals to the law; when they condone that very same, illegality to the law.

You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
 
This is why Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Welfare is means tested for income, unemployment compensation is not. And, unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

Simply correcting for that natural rate of capital inefficiency, will solve simple poverty and act as an economic stimulus on a consistent basis.

Only capital has to work under any form of capitalism. Only the national socialist right wing, never gets it. The law is employment at the will of either party, not just the employer.

Only the right wing, is cognitively dissonant enough to complain about illegals to the law; when they condone that very same, illegality to the law.

You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
Yes, unemployment compensation is a social safety net. Otherwise, we would have private forms of unemployment insurance available on the market, today.

That is what could happen, with equal protection of the law; more jobs in that sector creating private plans that complement that social safety net.
 
You don't even make any sense when you write. Yes, there is a natural rate of unemployment in our society. They include people that are not working for a variety of reasons. But only those who lost work through no fault of their own are covered by unemployment INSURANCE. if you don't know what insurance means, look it up.

lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
Yes, unemployment compensation is a social safety net. Otherwise, we would have private forms of unemployment insurance available on the market, today.

That is what could happen, with equal protection of the law; more jobs in that sector creating private plans that complement that social safety net.

You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? I just explained that yes, unemployment coverage is available through both private companies and public. It is not a social program, it's an insurance.

It's the same as Workman's Compensation. Yes, it is a mandate for businesses, but not a social program. Workman's Compensation is an insurance. Like all insurance, employers have the option to choose which coverage they desire; private or state. No matter who provides the coverage, it's still insurance.
 
lol. I understand the law. Employment is at the will of either party, not just the employer. For-cause employment must be proved by EDD or they are simply being, illegal to a federal Doctrine and our own State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
Yes, unemployment compensation is a social safety net. Otherwise, we would have private forms of unemployment insurance available on the market, today.

That is what could happen, with equal protection of the law; more jobs in that sector creating private plans that complement that social safety net.

You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? I just explained that yes, unemployment coverage is available through both private companies and public. It is not a social program, it's an insurance.

It's the same as Workman's Compensation. Yes, it is a mandate for businesses, but not a social program. Workman's Compensation is an insurance. Like all insurance, employers have the option to choose which coverage they desire; private or state. No matter who provides the coverage, it's still insurance.
No, it isn't. It is almost treated like an insurance problem; but, that would be illegal to our own laws as implemented if it were.
 
It's not because he didn't win it. It's because they are broke because of their own idiotic policies, like having sanctuary cities. They thumb their noses at federal laws and stated that they'll continue even if they are denied federal aid because of it. Now they are finding that their liberal policies are unsustainable, which is always the case, and they expect the rest of the country to bail them out. If they want aid, they need to obey laws. Not difficult.

California has been in trouble for a long time. They waste their budget on their crazy ideas and then the tax payers get IOUs instead of actual refunds. They don't have money for pensions. They've chased tax payers out of the state and their financial trouble is their own doing. If we bail them out, they'll just continue to increase spending on illegal aliens and other stupid shit.

Time for them to learn about having a budget.

It's one thing when states needed help with the Obamacare law because they didn't all want it. Even then, they were on their own when the federal dollars ran out. Why should California be treated special when they haven't even tried to fix their problem?
Even with all of our problems, California pays more in taxes than it receives.

The economy of California is the largest in the United States. As of 2015, California's gross state product (GSP) is about $2.496 trillion. The state's GSP grew 4.1% in 2015.


And yet they can't manage their finances.

No you're spreading manure. California is in debt no one will argue about that but we pay our bills and always will. We aren't looking for a free ride from anyone.
sure you are, if the state was fiscally responsible, they would not have spent all their money on their filthy and worthless POS illegal Pets from south America.
California spends enough money in just one year keeping the vermin comfortable to cover many weather related "disasters" This is nothing but a scam to get the U.S taxpayers to cover the cost of their import a vile disease from the south program.
As long as the state can afford to pay for illegals, they really dont need any federal dollars at all.
get rid of thoses pieces of shit then come and ask for assistance.
Only national socialists think that way.

Our problems are due to politics, not economics.
I agree, the politics of paying the way for illegals.
anyone that thinks our economics has nothing to do with money problems, most likely has never had to earn their own money.
 
Your state can do whatever they desire. If they want to put people on unemployment at will, that's fine with everybody else, but there will be no federal extension once that insurance runs out. Because it's insurance, the premiums to business will skyrocket helping to drive even more businesses out of that state.
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
Yes, unemployment compensation is a social safety net. Otherwise, we would have private forms of unemployment insurance available on the market, today.

That is what could happen, with equal protection of the law; more jobs in that sector creating private plans that complement that social safety net.

You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? I just explained that yes, unemployment coverage is available through both private companies and public. It is not a social program, it's an insurance.

It's the same as Workman's Compensation. Yes, it is a mandate for businesses, but not a social program. Workman's Compensation is an insurance. Like all insurance, employers have the option to choose which coverage they desire; private or state. No matter who provides the coverage, it's still insurance.
No, it isn't. It is almost treated like an insurance problem; but, that would be illegal to our own laws as implemented if it were.

What law prohibits insurance????

See, this is the problem: you have no idea WTF you're even talking about. It's called UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. It's called WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE. If you don't understand the difference between government provided social programs and insurance, it's not a surprise you rant the way you do.
 
Even with all of our problems, California pays more in taxes than it receives.

The economy of California is the largest in the United States. As of 2015, California's gross state product (GSP) is about $2.496 trillion. The state's GSP grew 4.1% in 2015.


And yet they can't manage their finances.

No you're spreading manure. California is in debt no one will argue about that but we pay our bills and always will. We aren't looking for a free ride from anyone.
sure you are, if the state was fiscally responsible, they would not have spent all their money on their filthy and worthless POS illegal Pets from south America.
California spends enough money in just one year keeping the vermin comfortable to cover many weather related "disasters" This is nothing but a scam to get the U.S taxpayers to cover the cost of their import a vile disease from the south program.
As long as the state can afford to pay for illegals, they really dont need any federal dollars at all.
get rid of thoses pieces of shit then come and ask for assistance.
Only national socialists think that way.

Our problems are due to politics, not economics.
I agree, the politics of paying the way for illegals.
anyone that thinks our economics has nothing to do with money problems, most likely has never had to earn their own money.
You may think that.

However, Nixon giving us a drug war instead of a "Mission to Mars" disproves your point.

It was just politics that disfavors the poor instead of Commerce, well regulated.
 
No, it won't. Unemployment compensation is more cost effective than means tested welfare; and people won't want to have more kids on unemployment compensation for Individuals. We will be improving the efficiency of our economy and solving simple poverty, at the same time.

I think the problem is you don't know what unemployment insurance is about. Employers get to choose their insurance company to provide coverage. They can also choose state coverage as well. Either way, it has to be paid into just like house, car, or even renters insurance. The more claims made, the higher the premium is for everybody else. It's one of the reasons employers fight unemployment claims when there is a dispute between employer and employee. The more people collecting unemployment under the employer, the higher his rates go.

Unemployment is not a social program or social safety net other than the mandate that all employers must carry it. Your state can create laws that insurance carriers must accept claims for self-unemployment, but again, the rates will go through the roof since millions of people would opt that to working. Even with the restrictions currently in place, there are people who find a job and work just long enough to collect unemployment and find a way to get fired. Employers are keen to this and don't offer jobs to these scammers.

So petition your state to make self-unemployment a law. We in other states can sure use the industry that will leave your state for ours.
Yes, unemployment compensation is a social safety net. Otherwise, we would have private forms of unemployment insurance available on the market, today.

That is what could happen, with equal protection of the law; more jobs in that sector creating private plans that complement that social safety net.

You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? I just explained that yes, unemployment coverage is available through both private companies and public. It is not a social program, it's an insurance.

It's the same as Workman's Compensation. Yes, it is a mandate for businesses, but not a social program. Workman's Compensation is an insurance. Like all insurance, employers have the option to choose which coverage they desire; private or state. No matter who provides the coverage, it's still insurance.
No, it isn't. It is almost treated like an insurance problem; but, that would be illegal to our own laws as implemented if it were.

What law prohibits insurance????

See, this is the problem: you have no idea WTF you're even talking about. It's called UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. It's called WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE. If you don't understand the difference between government provided social programs and insurance, it's not a surprise you rant the way you do.
Dear, our police action on drugs, is also called a drug war. Don't believe everything you are told.

If it were a true commercial venture, private insurance companies would have been, "sued into submission" a long time ago for being illegal to a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

People hesitate with a class action due to perceived, sovereign immunity of Government.
 
I'm so old I remember him saying Trump was not my President and he would fight Trump on everything.
Of course any 3 day old infant is that old too.

The left kept saying how the California economy is so great. Then let them deal with it on their own.
 
So you would have praised Obama if he had denied all federal aid to the states he didn't win.

Fascinating.
Fuck off and CALExit......

LOL, without California, the United States would become the world's third largest GDP, more than China, less than the EU.
Ranking the States by Fiscal Condition 2016 Edition

That has nothing at all to do with GDP and its effect on the rest of the country.
 
So you would have praised Obama if he had denied all federal aid to the states he didn't win.

Fascinating.
Fuck off and CALExit......

LOL, without California, the United States would become the world's third largest GDP, more than China, less than the EU.
Ranking the States by Fiscal Condition 2016 Edition

That has nothing at all to do with GDP and its effect on the rest of the country.
They are a drag on the rest of the country... fact
 

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