Guns are great, great for killing, maiming and used for fun.

[bigrebnc1775]

You mean ‘white people’ because at press time blacks weren’t considered people.

Yep them damn democrats

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

White male property owners. Wasn't women, Wasn't negro slaves. Wasn't indentured servants. I believe a few states allows all free white men to vote from the beginning.

Why are you jabbering about an off-topic piece of bullshit like this?

 

[BlindBoo]

Why are you jabbering about an off-topic piece of bullshit like this?

Here, let me catch you up...........

 

[Canon Shooter]

"the people" bozo are the entire population. Including criminals, thus "shall not be infringed" is a fiction in your "thinking".

So, you don't believe we should try to take guns away from criminals?

 

[marvin martian]

You mean ‘white people’ because at press time blacks weren’t considered people.

The amendment doesn't say "white people". It says "the people". See, the founders knew DemoKKKrats like you would be a problem one day.

 

[Hellbilly]

The amendment doesn't say "white people". It says "the people". See, the founders knew DemoKKKrats like you would be a problem one day.

It doesn’t say white people, but since white men were the only ones considered to be people, they meant white people.
Dumbass hick.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Rye Catcher lives in the Bay Area of California and believe his world is perfect while ignoring reality.

You can pass all the laws you want but in the end criminals never obey them and the more laws we have the more we become a police state…

P#1: I have a clear picture of the Bay Area having served for 32 years in law enforcement.

P#2: This is clear picture of foolishness. Penal codes, vehicle codes, health and welfare codes, and dozens of more codes are in effect and most of the people obey them. Municipal codes, rules and regulations as well as State and Federal laws exist do to problems, and when these problems require a solution, then new laws are promulgated.

The United States has a serious problem, and that problem is the use of firearms everyday causing the death and wounding of innocent people.

 

[Flash]

I use firearms for recreational purposes every week.

That really pisses off the hateful Moon Bats. They can't stand that this country has as individual right to keep and bear arms stated in the Constitution. They want us to be under the thumb of the government thugs.

 

[Failzero]

We train often ( to be less "Unorganized "

 

[theHawk]

10 people shot in Brooklyn subway attack

Ten people were shot in an attack on a subway train in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Tuesday morning, authorities said, and a manhunt for a suspect is underway.

www.yahoo.com

I'm certain to see this thread put in the proper forum, one that will immediately be able to post off topic posts and an excuse that mass shooting of innocent human beings is rare and no excuse to have gun controls.

Is it trolling, or some other excuse to allow the gun lovers to use the same claim that mass shooting is no reason to deny them with their absolute right: "shall not be infringed"? And innocent men, women and children maimed and murdered is simply a rare event - almost daily in the United States - and their rights to own, possess and have in their custody and control this right, and of course, their right to be armed to everyone will be the solution to these rare events.

Are you trying to claim NYC and NY state don’t have gun control laws?

 

[BlackSand]

The militia is defined in Art I, sec 8 clauses 15 & 16. There is no "local militia".

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Nothing in the 2nd Amendment forbids a State or Local Government from forming, arming or regulating a Militia, without infringing on the Rights of the People.
Any absence of such a law does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon the Rights of the People.

The Second Amendment does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon a citizen's right to bear arms if they aren't in a militia.

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[Failzero]

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Nothing in the 2nd Amendment forbids a State or Local Government from forming, arming or regulating a Militia, without infringing on the Rights of the People.
Any absence of such a law does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon the Rights of the People.

The Second Amendment does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon a citizen's right to bear arms if they aren't in a militia.

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Militia was the People of a Region or State ( Until early stages of WW2 )

 

[Rye Catcher]

The amendment doesn't say "white people". It says "the people". See, the founders knew DemoKKKrats like you would be a problem one day.

You are either very dumb and/or incapable of writing a substantive, logical and comprehensive comment.

 

[JustAGuy1]

10 people shot in Brooklyn subway attack

Ten people were shot in an attack on a subway train in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Tuesday morning, authorities said, and a manhunt for a suspect is underway.

www.yahoo.com

I'm certain to see this thread put in the proper forum, one that will immediately be able to post off topic posts and an excuse that mass shooting of innocent human beings is rare and no excuse to have gun controls.

Is it trolling, or some other excuse to allow the gun lovers to use the same claim that mass shooting is no reason to deny them with their absolute right: "shall not be infringed"? And innocent men, women and children maimed and murdered is simply a rare event - almost daily in the United States - and their rights to own, possess and have in their custody and control this right, and of course, their right to be armed to everyone will be the solution to these rare events.

Want to know how we know you are an idiot? Because you think making it harder for regular folks to get a gun it would stop/hinder criminals from getting a gun. Yup, that's how we know.

 

[BlackSand]

Militia was the People of a Region or State ( Until early stages of WW2 )

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Still ... You don't have to be in a Militia to bear arms and the Second Amendment doesn't even say you have to.

Furthermore ... A State (or Local) can pass a law that requires every citizen of the State own an AR-15, ammunition, and be prepare to defend the State.
That would be a Regulated Militia and wouldn't violate any terms of the Second Amendment.
It is still not a necessity for The People to bear arms.

We don't have to parse words and pretend they mean something they don't ... Not even in a historical context.

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[M14 Shooter]

White male property owners. Wasn't women, Wasn't negro slaves. Wasn't indentured servants. I believe a few states allows all free white men to vote from the beginning.

Did you notice you have not provided a primary source to back your claim, as I asked?
Of course you did.
Because you know there is none.

 

[Blues Man]

 

[M14 Shooter]

The United States has a serious problem, and that problem is the use of firearms everyday causing the death and wounding of innocent people.

The % of the 423,000,000 gun in the US to abused says otherwise.

 

[Failzero]

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Nothing in the 2nd Amendment forbids a State or Local Government from forming, arming or regulating a Militia, without infringing on the Rights of the People.
Any absence of such a law does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon the Rights of the People.

The Second Amendment does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon a citizen's right to bear arms if they aren't in a militia.

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In California Constitution (All Males from age 18-54 can be called upon by Governor to form Militia only exceptions being if they are Members of the Legislature , Law Enforcement or Active Duty Military ) So we Train & prepare here for just such a situation Legally .

 

[M14 Shooter]

It bestowed the right on Citizens and it went hand in hand with the obligation of property owners to join their local Militia. Not every Tom, Dick or Harriette was a Citizen when was written either.
The only viable way to change it however is a new Amendment and that ain't happening any time soon.

The 2nd amendment does not grant any rights to any person.
And nowhere was membership in the militia a pre-requisite for the ownership of a gun.
The 2nd Amendment, like the 1st and 4th and 5th and... does not apply to just citizens.
There;s no need to change it, as it has never meant what you claim it means.