Luddly Neddite
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Americans aren't moochers. Democrats are moochers. Romney was right that the core of democrat voters won't vote for him anyway.
PROVE IT.
Prove it or admit you're LYING YET AGAIN.
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Americans aren't moochers. Democrats are moochers. Romney was right that the core of democrat voters won't vote for him anyway.
RW, when you mention low wages, you hit the nail on the head. For over three decades wage earners have seen very little in wage growth that keeps up with inflation. Also, many of the newly created jobs are low paying jobs. Now who determines wages and wage growth? Would it be the same folks that ship jobs offshore?
With the demise of wages growth, of course fewer and fewer people become eligible to pay taxes per the convenient definition of taxpayers that the right loves to use (but it isn't accutate at all).
Where are the alleged job creators on this issue?
Many people in that 47% paid federal taxes for most of their lives. They used to have jobs that paid a competitive salary with benefits. They used to have disposable incomes and a piece of the American dream
They have since been dumped into the group of working Americans who struggle to support their families, who worry about their future and who no longer have an easy path ahead
And yes....It is the "Job Creators" who have dumped them into the 47% that Mitt Romney derides
No one promised you a rose garden. You have to create that for yourself. If you are one of those sitting back waiting for some job creator to provide you that great job, you are a fool, and a loser. No one owes you a damn thing, and no one is obligated to risk their capital just to provide you a good paying job.
You get paid exactly what you are worth to the person doing the paying. You think that you are worth more, go find someone who will pay you what you think you are worth. Good luck with that.
53% of Americans just found out that the other guy ain't payin'.
And of those 47%, I expect about half have either already done their "fair share" and retired or would rather have a job than Obama's table scraps.
You guys are screwed. Up 'til now, only political junkies like us really understood how many people are getting a check instead of writing one. The economy is in the crapper, you dudes are ADVERTISING food stamps, and we can pretty much ALL cite a couple of examples of real life "moochers". And the funniest part is that you've all been prancing around for the past week acting like you've got some sort of smoking gun.
53% of Americans just found out that the other guy ain't payin'.
And of those 47%, I expect about half have either already done their "fair share" and retired or would rather have a job than Obama's table scraps.
You guys are screwed. Up 'til now, only political junkies like us really understood how many people are getting a check instead of writing one. The economy is in the crapper, you dudes are ADVERTISING food stamps, and we can pretty much ALL cite a couple of examples of real life "moochers". And the funniest part is that you've all been prancing around for the past week acting like you've got some sort of smoking gun.
53% of Americans pay a higher effective tax rate than Mitt does
53% of Americans just found out that the other guy ain't payin'.
And of those 47%, I expect about half have either already done their "fair share" and retired or would rather have a job than Obama's table scraps.
You guys are screwed. Up 'til now, only political junkies like us really understood how many people are getting a check instead of writing one. The economy is in the crapper, you dudes are ADVERTISING food stamps, and we can pretty much ALL cite a couple of examples of real life "moochers". And the funniest part is that you've all been prancing around for the past week acting like you've got some sort of smoking gun.
53% of Americans pay a higher effective tax rate than Mitt does
53% of Americans just found out that the other guy ain't payin'.
And of those 47%, I expect about half have either already done their "fair share" and retired or would rather have a job than Obama's table scraps.
You guys are screwed. Up 'til now, only political junkies like us really understood how many people are getting a check instead of writing one. The economy is in the crapper, you dudes are ADVERTISING food stamps, and we can pretty much ALL cite a couple of examples of real life "moochers". And the funniest part is that you've all been prancing around for the past week acting like you've got some sort of smoking gun.
53% of Americans pay a higher effective tax rate than Mitt does
Hey stupid, Mitt pays a hell of a lot more taxes than you do.
As a matter of fact, he donates more money than you pay in taxes.
I'm willing to bet you pay $0.00 in federal income tax.
He also hides a lot more income than I do
How much are you willing to bet?
Americans are not moochers - CNN.com
Americans are not a nation of moochers and helpless dependents. Those who are not paying federal income tax would gladly do so, because it would mean they have a decent-paying job.GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney is right that 47% of Americans don't pay federal income tax. But he is wrong to suggest almost half of Americans pay no tax at all and feel entitled to live off government handouts.
Romney said: "There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. But that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax."
It's true that some Americans don't pay federal income tax. But virtually all Americans pay some form of tax, whether it's sales, payroll, state income, or property tax.
Rick McGaheyOver 60% of those who don't pay income tax are working; they pay payroll tax, which goes to support Social Security and Medicare. Another 22% of those who don't pay income tax are the elderly; most of them don't work.
In fact, only about 8% of Americans pay neither federal income tax nor payroll tax, because they are unemployed, are students, or are disabled.
He also hides a lot more income than I do
How much are you willing to bet?
Hides ?
Americans are not moochers - CNN.com
Americans are not a nation of moochers and helpless dependents. Those who are not paying federal income tax would gladly do so, because it would mean they have a decent-paying job.GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney is right that 47% of Americans don't pay federal income tax. But he is wrong to suggest almost half of Americans pay no tax at all and feel entitled to live off government handouts.
Romney said: "There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. But that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax."
It's true that some Americans don't pay federal income tax. But virtually all Americans pay some form of tax, whether it's sales, payroll, state income, or property tax.
Rick McGaheyOver 60% of those who don't pay income tax are working; they pay payroll tax, which goes to support Social Security and Medicare. Another 22% of those who don't pay income tax are the elderly; most of them don't work.
In fact, only about 8% of Americans pay neither federal income tax nor payroll tax, because they are unemployed, are students, or are disabled.
Hey rightwinger, Please show us where Romney ever said that.
He also hides a lot more income than I do
How much are you willing to bet?
Hides ?
Cayman islands.
Hides ?
Cayman islands.
Ilegally ?
Americans are not moochers - CNN.com
Americans are not a nation of moochers and helpless dependents. Those who are not paying federal income tax would gladly do so, because it would mean they have a decent-paying job.GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney is right that 47% of Americans don't pay federal income tax. But he is wrong to suggest almost half of Americans pay no tax at all and feel entitled to live off government handouts.
Romney said: "There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. But that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax."
It's true that some Americans don't pay federal income tax. But virtually all Americans pay some form of tax, whether it's sales, payroll, state income, or property tax.
Rick McGaheyOver 60% of those who don't pay income tax are working; they pay payroll tax, which goes to support Social Security and Medicare. Another 22% of those who don't pay income tax are the elderly; most of them don't work.
In fact, only about 8% of Americans pay neither federal income tax nor payroll tax, because they are unemployed, are students, or are disabled.
RW, when you mention low wages, you hit the nail on the head. For over three decades wage earners have seen very little in wage growth that keeps up with inflation. Also, many of the newly created jobs are low paying jobs. Now who determines wages and wage growth? Would it be the same folks that ship jobs offshore?
With the demise of wages growth, of course fewer and fewer people become eligible to pay taxes per the convenient definition of taxpayers that the right loves to use (but it isn't accutate at all).
Where are the alleged job creators on this issue?
Many people in that 47% paid federal taxes for most of their lives. They used to have jobs that paid a competitive salary with benefits. They used to have disposable incomes and a piece of the American dream
They have since been dumped into the group of working Americans who struggle to support their families, who worry about their future and who no longer have an easy path ahead
And yes....It is the "Job Creators" who have dumped them into the 47% that Mitt Romney derides
Yes
We definitely need to raise taxes on the poor and cut taxes on the wealthy
Its only fair
Again, idiot... there never should have been anything in place where any person earning even $1 was exempt from federal income tax...
Fuck fair... embrace equality in treatment
I agree.
Everyone should have skin in the game.
No one should get a free ride.
Fair is fair.
A person making 25K a year is barely getting by. Tax him/her $8250 and he/she has a take home of 16750.
Would never work.
We need to maintain a progressive tax based on income.....need to eliminate some of the write offs....and most of all....need to cut spending.
Wrong, I HATE The progressive income tax, it just leads to division and makes no sense, every dollar should be taxed the same. And if we wanted to raise taxes you cant blame the rich, you'd have to get eveyone onboard, and that why liberals like the progressive tax....they can pit groups against each other....
And my favorite solution would be to ditch the income tax completely and just make a national sales tax.
9-9-9 bullshit
Many people in that 47% paid federal taxes for most of their lives. They used to have jobs that paid a competitive salary with benefits. They used to have disposable incomes and a piece of the American dream
They have since been dumped into the group of working Americans who struggle to support their families, who worry about their future and who no longer have an easy path ahead
And yes....It is the "Job Creators" who have dumped them into the 47% that Mitt Romney derides
No one promised you a rose garden. You have to create that for yourself. If you are one of those sitting back waiting for some job creator to provide you that great job, you are a fool, and a loser. No one owes you a damn thing, and no one is obligated to risk their capital just to provide you a good paying job.
You get paid exactly what you are worth to the person doing the paying. You think that you are worth more, go find someone who will pay you what you think you are worth. Good luck with that.
And 47% of Americans don't have a rose garden
These are the Americans that Romney derides as looking for a government handout