John Edgar Slow Horses
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We are talking about Trump not Biden. Your 'whataboutism' fails.And that's different from Biden ineffectiveness?
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We are talking about Trump not Biden. Your 'whataboutism' fails.And that's different from Biden ineffectiveness?
Why do you think that it should be a democracy?
That's my question.
RANK | PARENT | SUBSIDY VALUE![]() | NUMBER OF AWARDS |
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1 | Boeing | $15,136,286,466 | 946 |
2 | Intel | $8,371,896,017 | 133 |
3 | Ford Motor | $7,761,916,195 | 815 |
4 | General Motors | $7,594,509,872 | 990 |
5 | Micron Technology | $6,785,681,915 | 18 |
6 | Alcoa | $5,798,600,778 | 160 |
7 | X-Energy LLC | $5,661,511,202 | 17 |
8 | General Atomics | $5,465,529,295 | 438 |
9 | Cheniere Energy | $5,431,565,870 | 41 |
10 | Amazon.com | $5,051,773,349 | 332 |
11 | Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company) | $4,827,036,483 | 76 |
12 | Sempra Energy | $3,835,098,001 | 53 |
13 | Southern Company | $3,783,360,569 | 130 |
14 | NRG Energy | $3,586,516,301 | 268 |
15 | Venture Global LNG | $3,285,883,566 | 6 |
16 | NextEra Energy | $3,003,823,754 | 117 |
17 | Tesla Inc. | $2,836,366,619 | 116 |
18 | Sasol | $2,836,049,845 | 72 |
19 | Stellantis | $2,800,442,867 | 230 |
20 | Volkswagen | $2,740,983,143 | 222 |
21 | General Electric | $2,529,193,561 | 1,668 |
22 | Nucor | $2,514,358,340 | 158 |
23 | Walt Disney | $2,421,304,588 | 248 |
24 | Brookfield Asset Management | $2,339,430,278 | 304 |
25 | Iberdrola | $2,285,768,043 | 112 |
26 | Summit Power | $2,240,568,236 | 8 |
27 | Shell PLC | $2,184,517,527 | 141 |
28 | Oracle | $2,167,890,528 | 88 |
29 | Mubadala Investment Company | $2,124,035,097 | 62 |
30 | Nike | $2,104,917,829 | 138 |
31 | Hyundai Motor | $2,072,957,848 | 27 |
32 | SCS Energy | $1,927,236,683 | 10 |
33 | Archer Daniels Midland | $1,920,305,787 | 1,099 |
34 | Exxon Mobil | $1,891,153,489 | 207 |
35 | NuScale Power | $1,880,780,589 | 34 |
36 | Toyota | $1,864,826,689 | 198 |
37 | Berkshire Hathaway | $1,859,775,471 | 1,158 |
38 | Nissan | $1,842,314,165 | 86 |
39 | Alphabet Inc. | $1,832,565,977 | 116 |
40 | Paramount Global | $1,751,801,882 | 317 |
41 | Apple Inc. | $1,750,043,420 | 36 |
42 | Comcast | $1,722,467,426 | 376 |
43 | JPMorgan Chase | $1,663,890,873 | 1,129 |
44 | Cleveland-Cliffs | $1,654,401,303 | 137 |
45 | Energy Transfer | $1,634,074,422 | 106 |
46 | Samsung | $1,586,310,806 | 70 |
47 | PG&E Corp. | $1,568,027,901 | 27 |
48 | IBM Corp. | $1,562,738,626 | 387 |
49 | SkyWest | $1,550,492,958 | 683 |
50 | Rivian Automotive Inc. | $1,532,854,012 | 3 |
51 | OGE Energy | $1,427,570,182 | 15 |
52 | Panasonic | $1,385,969,341 | 61 |
53 | Raytheon Technologies | $1,322,899,721 | 952 |
54 | Duke Energy | $1,318,084,164 | 69 |
55 | Lockheed Martin | $1,302,847,415 | 337 |
56 | Corning Inc. | $1,272,628,059 | 395 |
57 | Northrop Grumman | $1,266,804,354 | 266 |
58 | Vingroup | $1,254,000,000 | 1 |
59 | Continental AG | $1,244,875,478 | 111 |
60 | Vornado Realty Trust | $1,243,857,336 | 32 |
61 | Microsoft | $1,153,690,869 | 103 |
62 | Jefferies Financial Group | $1,120,662,497 | 18 |
63 | Meta Platforms Inc. | $1,105,098,844 | 53 |
64 | Dow Inc. | $1,091,152,544 | 686 |
65 | Abengoa | $1,082,660,583 | 63 |
66 | LG | $1,055,690,737 | 103 |
67 | Valero Energy | $1,054,520,860 | 199 |
68 | Exelon | $1,040,601,369 | 98 |
69 | AES Corp. | $1,010,194,632 | 132 |
70 | CF Industries | $982,271,715 | 129 |
71 | Pyramid Companies | $966,050,097 | 91 |
72 | EDF-Electricite de France | $940,247,983 | 65 |
73 | Texas Instruments | $940,071,436 | 60 |
74 | Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc. | $900,000,000 | 1 |
75 | Air Products & Chemicals | $897,651,105 | 248 |
76 | Delta Air Lines | $876,412,623 | 14 |
77 | Centene | $875,064,432 | 54 |
78 | Bayer | $849,175,809 | 202 |
79 | Honda | $846,026,154 | 91 |
80 | Enterprise Products Partners | $826,988,371 | 83 |
81 | Shin-Etsu Chemical | $826,062,285 | 104 |
82 | SunEdison | $812,753,318 | 119 |
83 | Apollo Global Management | $804,565,970 | 471 |
84 | Goldman Sachs | $801,573,386 | 255 |
85 | E.ON | $782,609,880 | 38 |
86 | Wolfspeed Inc. | $773,681,732 | 88 |
87 | Triple Five Worldwide | $748,000,000 | 4 |
88 | EDP-Energias de Portugal | $733,674,868 | 14 |
89 | Warner Bros. Discovery Inc. | $725,632,525 | 206 |
90 | Gotion | $715,000,000 | 1 |
91 | American Electric Power | $699,673,821 | 92 |
92 | Bank of America | $698,760,073 | 919 |
93 | Johnson Controls | $691,180,720 | 144 |
94 | Related Companies | $687,200,000 | 1 |
95 | Caithness Energy | $670,379,738 | 28 |
96 | Hyannis Air Service Inc. | $667,928,778 | 296 |
97 | Koch Industries | $662,557,530 | 486 |
98 | Sagamore Development | $660,000,000 | 1 |
99 | Dominion Energy |
Trump has all of the characteristics of a despot.
You stupid hypocrite, if we disconnected you from DU you'd be brain dead.Trump minions are all alike in they will never criticize Trump. Whatever he does is right.Anyone who criticizes Trump is the enemy whether they are Republican, Democrat or independent.
You are a cult. A cult should not be part of the US political leadership.
Get help
How do you get out of cultism?
Work on your boundaries. Stay strong in your decision to leave the cult. Remind yourself why you wanted to get away, and tell any current members of the group that you don't want to talk to them. Practice making your own decisions, and work on rediscovering your personality.
That's because YOU STUPID LEFTARDS ARE THREATENING PEOPLE. You're threatening the entire fucking country with your stupid bullshit.You want to be culled, MAGA, then go for it.
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‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War
Within minutes of Trump’s indictment, supporters lit up social media platforms with violent threats and calls for civil war.
By David Gilbert
June 9, 2023, 7:33am
FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AT HIS TURNBERRY COURSE ON MAY 2, 2023 IN TURNBERRY, SCOTLAND. (PHOTO BY ROBERT PERRY / GETTY IMAGES)
In what is becoming a now all-too-familiar trend, former President Donald Trump’s far-right supporters have threatened civil war after news broke Thursday that the former president was indicted for allegedly taking classified documents from the White House without permission.
“We need to start killing these traitorous fuckstains,” wrote one Trump supporter on The Donald, a rabidly pro-Trump message board that played a key role in planning the January 6 attack on the Capitol. Another user added: “It's not gonna stop until bodies start stacking up. We are not civilly represented anymore and they'll come for us next. Some of us, they already have.”
No, we're talking about commies you dumb fucktard.We are talking about MAGA ineffectiveness in anything it tries.
Then start your own business.If being employed by a capitalist dictator was truly a matter of choice for most people, then I would be more inclined to agree with you. But in view of the fact that work is a life requirement, that we must do to survive and avoid starving to death, I believe all productive enterprises should be owned and run by those who work them. The workers should elect their leaders and then work under that elected authority, which as you say, takes care of all of the complicated stuff that most workers don't want to deal with.
When 1/3rd of our workforce was unionized, work conditions were much better, including salaries and benefits. But unfortunately, the capitalists will always eventually have their way by bribing politicians and making it impossible for their employees to form unions. So rather than continue with this battle, of trying to keep unions alive in the face of capitalist power and legal opposition, we should just establish democratically run enterprises. Capitalists have rigged the system to only favor those with capital, rather than workers (those who sell their labor power to capitalists).
If workers go to the SBA (Small Business Administration), with a business plan to start a worker-owned, democratically run cooperative, they will almost always get turned down. If they go directly to the bank with excellent credit and a well-written business plan for a cooperative, they also get shot-down. This system is completely on the side of the capitalist-lords, at the expense of workers, who want to free themselves.
Under our present capitalist system, the only option to job and financial security, is to become self-employed, but if everyone becomes self-employed or a capitalist, where are the Indians? Only the "chiefs" can secure a source of income and live a good life? Who's going to extract the raw materials from the mines? Who's going to do all of the work, to make stuff? The goods that we consume require workers, not a bunch of people who want to spend their day playing golf while others do all of the needed work. We need a better way of organizing production and making the workplace a lot more democratic than it is today. We need democracy in politics and in the productive enterprise. Mass production has always been a social endeavor, it's never private.
You're a complete fucking idiot.We are talking about Trump not Biden. Your 'whataboutism' fails.
Then start your own business.
Expoiting the labor of others, for personal gain? Lol! Grow up. I don't hear you whining about employees exploiting the risk, time, investment, and success a person invested to give them a place to work. Typical commie neer do well whining...First of all, this isn't just about me personally, but society in general. I believe everyone is negatively affected by a form of capitalism, that is undemocratic and owned by a small, privileged socioeconomic class of unelected parasites, exploiting the labor of others for their own personal gain. If capitalism is to survive, it should turn the productive enterprise into a worker-owned and democratically run cooperative, from the mining of raw materials, to the retail outlet store, at every stage of production and distribution. The mass-scale creation of goods and services has always been a social endeavor, never a private one. It takes an organization of workers to produce all of the products and services that we use.
Expoiting the labor of others, for personal gain? Lol! Grow up. I don't hear you whining about employees exploiting the risk, time, investment, and success a person invested to give them a place to work. Typical commie neer do well whining...
Nonsense. Save the commie apologetics. The employees are the beneficiaries having the privilege to choose amongst the winners who risked their own time commitment, and personal wealth. Many don't make it. In fact most don't. And if a person doesn't like the culture, or pay offered by one company; they can walk right out, and go to work for another. Or... they can start their own business. They can even model its leadership however they want to.The workers are the ones who really risk everything, including their lives. The capitalists are unnecessary middlemen and parasites, whining about workers not considering their personal financial "risk" as if that justifies their unelected leadership in the enterprise, which requires the actual significant human risk and labor of others. If you want to eat and have a roof over your head, pull up your sleeves and get to work you leech.
History shows examples of authoritarian leaders being blindly followed.
Eventually, one (or more) of the mindless trump Nazis will take Lake's or another trump sycophant's encouragements seriously. It's unfortunate the trump Nazis permit themselves to be brainwashed by trump and/or his collaborators, too many innocent lives hang in the balance.Just more incitement for the rubes.
She's putting them up to murdering people, having them thinking they're doing it because they're patriots.
We already know the template: Pretend all evidence is phony, threaten violence, ignore the rule of law, attack all American institutions.Eventually, one (or more) of the mindless trump Nazis will take Lake's or another trump sycophant's encouragements seriously. It's unfortunate the trump Nazis permit themselves to be brainwashed by trump and/or his collaborators, too many innocent lives hang in the balance.
Had prosecutors taken the 1/6/20 insurrection seriously, the four deaths of people that day would have been considered in the sentences of those convicted for their parts in the violence. For the most part, the failed insurrection has been treated more like a big fraternity prank.
In all except a few cases, the sentences for the insurrectionists will hardly deter any future violence by the trump Nazis.
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Nonsense. Save the commie apologetics. The employees are the beneficiaries having the privilege to choose amongst the winners who risked their own time commitment, and personal wealth. Many don't make it. In fact most don't. And if a person doesn't like the culture, or pay offered by one company; they can walk right out, and go to work for another. Or... they can start their own business. They can even model its leadership however they want to.
Many don't make it. In fact most don't. And if a person doesn't like the culture, or pay offered by one company; they can walk right out, and go to work for another. Or... they can start their own business. They can even model its leadership however they want to.
You stated that Mussolini was a bad person - and I stated he was not, but that he was very much liked in Italy, until his own party knew the war is lost, arrested and disposed of him in 1943 - therefore enabling the Communists to revive from practically zero, and thus taking over most cities in Italy by military force before the Allied troops arrived.Are you trying to make the argument that fascism can be good for a country and it's people?
Because those who work the productive enterprise collectively, producing all of its goods and services, should own it collectively and run it democratically, without being exploited or reduced to a commodity in a "labor market". Mass production is a social endeavor, not a private one. It takes a community of human beings working together, to produce the goods and services that everyone uses. From the miners in the mines who extract the raw materials to the staff in a retail outlet, the whole process of production and delivery is carried out by human labor, hence it's the working class that should own the facilities and machinery of production, not a privileged socioeconomic class of wealthy parasites and exploiters.
Adam Smith called capitalists "masters" and that's what they are, in view of the fact that capitalism concentrates wealth and power at the top, resulting in gross inequality, unsustainable business cycles that require government bailouts (public funds), and the undermining of democracy (cronyism is endemic to capitalism). The wealthy elites privatize profits and make public their losses.
RANK PARENT SUBSIDY VALUE .
NUMBER OF AWARDS 1 Boeing $15,136,286,466 946 2 Intel $8,371,896,017 133 3 Ford Motor $7,761,916,195 815 4 General Motors $7,594,509,872 990 5 Micron Technology $6,785,681,915 18 6 Alcoa $5,798,600,778 160 7 X-Energy LLC $5,661,511,202 17 8 General Atomics $5,465,529,295 438 9 Cheniere Energy $5,431,565,870 41 10 Amazon.com $5,051,773,349 332 11 Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company) $4,827,036,483 76 12 Sempra Energy $3,835,098,001 53 13 Southern Company $3,783,360,569 130 14 NRG Energy $3,586,516,301 268 15 Venture Global LNG $3,285,883,566 6 16 NextEra Energy $3,003,823,754 117 17 Tesla Inc. $2,836,366,619 116 18 Sasol $2,836,049,845 72 19 Stellantis $2,800,442,867 230 20 Volkswagen $2,740,983,143 222 21 General Electric $2,529,193,561 1,668 22 Nucor $2,514,358,340 158 23 Walt Disney $2,421,304,588 248 24 Brookfield Asset Management $2,339,430,278 304 25 Iberdrola $2,285,768,043 112 26 Summit Power $2,240,568,236 8 27 Shell PLC $2,184,517,527 141 28 Oracle $2,167,890,528 88 29 Mubadala Investment Company $2,124,035,097 62 30 Nike $2,104,917,829 138 31 Hyundai Motor $2,072,957,848 27 32 SCS Energy $1,927,236,683 10 33 Archer Daniels Midland $1,920,305,787 1,099 34 Exxon Mobil $1,891,153,489 207 35 NuScale Power $1,880,780,589 34 36 Toyota $1,864,826,689 198 37 Berkshire Hathaway $1,859,775,471 1,158 38 Nissan $1,842,314,165 86 39 Alphabet Inc. $1,832,565,977 116 40 Paramount Global $1,751,801,882 317 41 Apple Inc. $1,750,043,420 36 42 Comcast $1,722,467,426 376 43 JPMorgan Chase $1,663,890,873 1,129 44 Cleveland-Cliffs $1,654,401,303 137 45 Energy Transfer $1,634,074,422 106 46 Samsung $1,586,310,806 70 47 PG&E Corp. $1,568,027,901 27 48 IBM Corp. $1,562,738,626 387 49 SkyWest $1,550,492,958 683 50 Rivian Automotive Inc. $1,532,854,012 3 51 OGE Energy $1,427,570,182 15 52 Panasonic $1,385,969,341 61 53 Raytheon Technologies $1,322,899,721 952 54 Duke Energy $1,318,084,164 69 55 Lockheed Martin $1,302,847,415 337 56 Corning Inc. $1,272,628,059 395 57 Northrop Grumman $1,266,804,354 266 58 Vingroup $1,254,000,000 1 59 Continental AG $1,244,875,478 111 60 Vornado Realty Trust $1,243,857,336 32 61 Microsoft $1,153,690,869 103 62 Jefferies Financial Group $1,120,662,497 18 63 Meta Platforms Inc. $1,105,098,844 53 64 Dow Inc. $1,091,152,544 686 65 Abengoa $1,082,660,583 63 66 LG $1,055,690,737 103 67 Valero Energy $1,054,520,860 199 68 Exelon $1,040,601,369 98 69 AES Corp. $1,010,194,632 132 70 CF Industries $982,271,715 129 71 Pyramid Companies $966,050,097 91 72 EDF-Electricite de France $940,247,983 65 73 Texas Instruments $940,071,436 60 74 Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc. $900,000,000 1 75 Air Products & Chemicals $897,651,105 248 76 Delta Air Lines $876,412,623 14 77 Centene $875,064,432 54 78 Bayer $849,175,809 202 79 Honda $846,026,154 91 80 Enterprise Products Partners $826,988,371 83 81 Shin-Etsu Chemical $826,062,285 104 82 SunEdison $812,753,318 119 83 Apollo Global Management $804,565,970 471 84 Goldman Sachs $801,573,386 255 85 E.ON $782,609,880 38 86 Wolfspeed Inc. $773,681,732 88 87 Triple Five Worldwide $748,000,000 4 88 EDP-Energias de Portugal $733,674,868 14 89 Warner Bros. Discovery Inc. $725,632,525 206 90 Gotion $715,000,000 1 91 American Electric Power $699,673,821 92 92 Bank of America $698,760,073 919 93 Johnson Controls $691,180,720 144 94 Related Companies $687,200,000 1 95 Caithness Energy $670,379,738 28 96 Hyannis Air Service Inc. $667,928,778 296 97 Koch Industries $662,557,530 486 98 Sagamore Development $660,000,000 1 99 Dominion Energy
Welfare and socialism for the rich and pick yourself up by your bootstraps "free-market", "fiscally responsible" capitalism for the rest of us.
They now have us at the brink of fighting WW3 with Russia, selling tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons to the US federal government, to send to Ukraine. In pursuit of profits, they fuel the fires of war. They keep us on fossil fuels when we could very easily rely on safe, clean, and inexhaustible nuclear energy.
If capitalism is to survive in America, it has to become much more democratic and begin serving the public good, rather than the vested interests of a few wealthy elites, who care about nothing more than their private profits.
You stupid hypocrite, if we disconnected you from DU you'd be brain dead.