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One thing von Kuehnelt made clear, Nazism and Fascism rose from democracies.
Correct.
Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪz(ə)m/; alternatively spelled Naziism),[1] or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus) . However , Hitler understood that socialism sucks ---that central planning is useless so he decided that fascism was better.
Fascism allows the government to use (force) private entrepreneurs into assisting the bureaucracy in perpetrating its dastardly deeds.
And there's one fundamental difference between left wing totalitarians and right wing totalitarians. Private entrepreneurs make lots of money with right wing totalitarians.
The term "right-wing totalitarianism" is an oxymoron. You can't have a free market and totalitarianism.
A semiplanned CAPITALIST war economy. One big happy NAZI FAMILY. WITH NO JEWS, SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS, non Nazi intellectuals, gays. Half the Tea Party would've loved it.Another thing that throws them off, in America, the "right" believes in limited government, individual freedom and rights, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...which put limits on the power of the government....
If you look at Europe...when they talk about the "far right" if you look at the policies of the "far right" it usually connotes some sort of racism or nationalism.....but these "far right" parties want even more government control, not less, they want group rights, not individual rights....so really, they are simply extreme lefties....which scares the social democrats who want the government to control the economy...but to be nice to everyone....
So in Europe the have left and far left...in the U.S. we have left (more government, bigger government) and right (limited government, reduced government).....
The hell they did- they put out ideas for weapons or buildings, etc, for corporations to bid on, and picked the best designs and costs just like here.
Sorry, the nazi economy was a planned economy....they told businesses what they could produce, what they could charge and if they disagreed they were arrested and the business was confiscated....
Again...Read Hayek, who was there....
Nazism is Socialism[/QUOTE/] That was written before Hitler had revealed himself as anti-democratic, militaristic, and war crazy. ie totally out of any rational context.
But they did. It helped to gain them power. The workers had panels the owners had to answer to. Pay was set, holidays, etc. Call it what you will, that isn't free enterprise or right wing.Ive found Orwell to be a pretty sharp observer from other stuff I've read. He, I think, called himself a socialist but was critical of the communists. The way he put it, "crushed", doesnt show, I dont think, that they just wanted their own union to help members. Your idea of socialism doesnt fit what most people would consider socialism either I dont think. Most people would think that workers would have more of a say in a socialistic system.
So the US isn't free enterprise either. lolBut they did. It helped to gain them power. The workers had panels the owners had to answer to. Pay was set, holidays, etc. Call it what you will, that isn't free enterprise or right wing.Ive found Orwell to be a pretty sharp observer from other stuff I've read. He, I think, called himself a socialist but was critical of the communists. The way he put it, "crushed", doesnt show, I dont think, that they just wanted their own union to help members. Your idea of socialism doesnt fit what most people would consider socialism either I dont think. Most people would think that workers would have more of a say in a socialistic system.
Whhhhhaaaaaaat? So if you are for limited government and personal freedom you can't be a capitalist?RW totalitarianism means capitalist PERIOD, as opposed to communism, shytteheads. Personal freedom, limited government can be anything BUT totalitarian, brainwashed functional moron. Including social democracy or SOCIALISM. SEE WESTERN EUROPE, OZ, ETC.
One thing von Kuehnelt made clear, Nazism and Fascism rose from democracies.
Correct.
Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪz(ə)m/; alternatively spelled Naziism),[1] or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus) . However , Hitler understood that socialism sucks ---that central planning is useless so he decided that fascism was better.
Fascism allows the government to use (force) private entrepreneurs into assisting the bureaucracy in perpetrating its dastardly deeds.
And there's one fundamental difference between left wing totalitarians and right wing totalitarians. Private entrepreneurs make lots of money with right wing totalitarians.
RW totalitarianism means capitalist PERIOD, as opposed to communism, shytteheads. The company had a portfolio of 1,800 units valued at just over $100 million in April 2013. Currently, the portfolio is nearly 5,000 units valued at $200 million. Within two months, Roco will have about 7,000 units, said David Colman. The additional 2,000 units are in Michigan, Mississippi and Texas. t can be anything BUT totalitarian, brainwashed functional moron. Including social democracy or SOCIALISM. SEE WESTERN EUROPE, OZ, ETC.They called themselves a Republic, so they must be one!Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Yeah, we know commies lie. What's your point?
You're such a dishonest fucking hack
Yes, we know. The Nazi's were "right-wing" because they espoused individual liberty, personal freedom and limited government
Fucking hack
I agree with that. Freer than most if not all places though. Big government steps on the market too much here but there is no such thing as total freedom. You are thinking in absolutes.So the US isn't free enterprise either. lol
Social democracy or socialism can also include personal freedom and limited government. Socialism is just well regulated, fair capitalism. Only undemocratic totalitarianism, capitalist fascism or collective communism, CAN'T.Whhhhhaaaaaaat? So if you are for limited government and personal freedom you can't be a capitalist?RW totalitarianism means capitalist PERIOD, as opposed to communism, shytteheads. Personal freedom, limited government can be anything BUT totalitarian, brainwashed functional moron. Including social democracy or SOCIALISM. SEE WESTERN EUROPE, OZ, ETC.
Guys...communism, nazism and fascism....are all types of socialism....just like vanilla, chocolate and strawberry are flavors of ice cream....but they are all ice cream....
How hard is that to understand...of course....you guys have all been educated in government schools run by progressives....so your ability to recognize truth and facts is diminished....
One thing von Kuehnelt made clear, Nazism and Fascism rose from democracies.
Correct.
Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪz(ə)m/; alternatively spelled Naziism),[1] or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus) . However , Hitler understood that socialism sucks ---that central planning is useless so he decided that fascism was better.
Fascism allows the government to use (force) private entrepreneurs into assisting the bureaucracy in perpetrating its dastardly deeds.
And there's one fundamental difference between left wing totalitarians and right wing totalitarians. Private entrepreneurs make lots of money with right wing totalitarians.
The term "right-wing totalitarianism" is an oxymoron. You can't have a free market and totalitarianism.
A Monarchy, an Oligarchy and a Plutocracy are all potentially capable of becoming a totalitarian form of government. Insider trading and unregulated bankers, brokers and financial planners are all capable of conspiracies to commit fraud and theft within a so called "free market".
No, you are. Nazism could be capitalist and have worker input or gov't direction in some areas. DIRECTION, not actual ownership of corporations.I agree with that. Freer than most if not all places though. Big government steps on the market too much here but there is no such thing as total freedom. You are thinking in absolutes.So the US isn't free enterprise either. lol
B S, ignorant Beckbot or whatever TP industry is running your tiny brain.RW totalitarianism means capitalist PERIOD, as opposed to communism, shytteheads. The company had a portfolio of 1,800 units valued at just over $100 million in April 2013. Currently, the portfolio is nearly 5,000 units valued at $200 million. Within two months, Roco will have about 7,000 units, said David Colman. The additional 2,000 units are in Michigan, Mississippi and Texas. t can be anything BUT totalitarian, brainwashed functional moron. Including social democracy or SOCIALISM. SEE WESTERN EUROPE, OZ, ETC.They called themselves a Republic, so they must be one!Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Yeah, we know commies lie. What's your point?
You're such a dishonest fucking hack
Yes, we know. The Nazi's were "right-wing" because they espoused individual liberty, personal freedom and limited government
Fucking hack
Moron, idiot, duppe, sucka, duh.
Right wing IS personal freedom and limited government. You lefties, Obama, Hitler, FDR, Mao and Stalin are the totalitarians
Ditto, brainwashed functional morons.Guys...communism, nazism and fascism....are all types of socialism....just like vanilla, chocolate and strawberry are flavors of ice cream....but they are all ice cream....
How hard is that to understand...of course....you guys have all been educated in government schools run by progressives....so your ability to recognize truth and facts is diminished....
EXACTLY.
I didnt say truth was a vote
? Seriously?....yes seriously...and I think the vast majority of people in the world would see it that way too.
We know how the Right despises "book learning". It's unclear from what source you think wisdom comes.Sounds like you put up a website and then this counts as proof and you won't listen to anything else.
Try reading "Socialism" by Ludwig von Mises or "The Road to Serfdom" by Frederic Hayek.
Why?
So you'll learn why fascism is just another form of socialism. Both men are renowned economists, by the way. Hayek received a Nobel prise.
But this is a debate. If you have something to say, SAY IT. Don't tell me to read things and expect this to happen. Use your source if you will, if you won't, then what's the point?
Your Komrade Saigon keeps giving me a list of historians and telling me to read their books. That's his conception of evidence. Go tell it to him.
So the US isn't free enterprise either. lolBut they did. It helped to gain them power. The workers had panels the owners had to answer to. Pay was set, holidays, etc. Call it what you will, that isn't free enterprise or right wing.Ive found Orwell to be a pretty sharp observer from other stuff I've read. He, I think, called himself a socialist but was critical of the communists. The way he put it, "crushed", doesnt show, I dont think, that they just wanted their own union to help members. Your idea of socialism doesnt fit what most people would consider socialism either I dont think. Most people would think that workers would have more of a say in a socialistic system.
