Holy crap - this has to stop!

[TyroneSlothrop]

‘If a Muslim Did This, the Perpetrator Would Be Immediately Identified as a Terrorist’

(The Muslims of America Inc.)

Robert Doggart: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

The fact that the case originally received no local or national media coverage and has resulted in an outcry from The Muslims of America, Inc., the organization and community Doggart targeted.

The organization said in a press release it was notified about the threat and worked with state and federal authorities to provide Islamberg residents with around the clock security.


“Doggart is an example of the results of unchecked and rampant Islamophobia which has spread lies for years about our peaceful community,” the organization’s public relations director, Mathew Gardner, said in a statement. “This man plotted to mercilessly kill us, kill our children, and blow up our mosque and our school. We have sound reason to believe he has already visited our other locations around the U.S. What other murderous plans do he and his private militia have and where are his accomplices?”

“All would agree, if a Muslim did this, the perpetrator would be immediately identified as a terrorist then prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The examples are numerous,” Gardner said. “Therefore, we call on all branches of justice to see to it that this man is prosecuted for planning a heinous hate crime and terrorist act.”

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

This shooting highlights the need for some against Trump to think twice before expressing their level disappointment. High profile people on left should have been speaking out against any violence long before this happened.

This guy lost it. Dems always do say NO VIOLENCE- Trump eggs his supporters on. There has been a big surge in violence against Jews, blacks, gays- NOT against RWers or by Dems. That's propaganda videos repeated endlessly on Fox etc, not facts. And those are a tiny number of anarchists and gangsta wannabees, not Dems like Rush and Sean go on about endlessly.

I don't see any RW'ers out starting fights at pro-Trump rallies and stabbing horses. Do you?

And a couple non news events mean something, dupe? Your RW media is a disgrace. We MAY know about a surge in RW violence against gays, Musims, jews, and blacks. ALL of you dupes know by heart a couple of tiny incidents, highly debatable, hateful narrations about some non-Dem fools. Stabbing a horse? We have no clue what your FOS hate machine is blaring about. lol. Why isn't real media covering it? Because it's crap, ignoramus.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Amost all the fake news and BS is RW..

not at all. The MSM is 95% liberal so all the news they have presented for the last 50 years has been fake. Thanks to Sir Donald the whole world knows it now.

 

[Iceweasel]

And a perfect example of what I was talking about...

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

uh-huh. trump rallies were nothing but giant love fests, right? & i am positive you were incredulous & outraged at the portland alt right white supremacist who stabbed to death innocent men defending innocent muslim women on that train right?

...another Bernie Bro, not a alt-right, whatever that is. Yes, Trump rallies were a love fest, a few maggots tried to spoil it and lost though.

uh-huh. trump has had his share of white suprememies show up at his rallies from the start. no worries though. he's a goner.

i can't wait.

I love your predictions. The opposite always happens.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yep, that's why we need to carry guns--liberals.

The only way we could safely give up our guns is if we got rid of liberals first, and since that can't be done (Lord knows we've tried) we have to have guns in America today. Liberals are violent people.

Isn't that ironic, since Liberalism gave you the Second Amendment. Along with, I might add, the rest of the Constitution.

History is a lost art.

What we have today is leftism. Read JFK's inaugural address. The left today would be howling and melting in horror if Trump gave it today.

History is a lost art.

Nothing in the above was about "leftism". It was about -- you can read it sitting right there -- Liberalism.

Unfortunately, moving the goalposts is NOT a lost art.

Funny you ignore how today's leftists reject JFK. Funny how you also run from who you are.

Funny how you're so piss-pants scared of the topic that you had to change it to something else.

Oh well.

Says the dufus claiming he's just like the Founding Fathers.

 

[TemplarKormac]

He's a sucko piece of crap president BUT he is OUR elected representative. His office does stand for something and that includes basic respect. If he's not the leader to heal wounds - WE HAVE TO BE. We can't just crawl around crying and blaming and damaging our society and blaming the election. We CAN'T allow OUR rhetoric to energize our wingnuts into unspeakable actions because we have a p.o.s. president.

Going to have to call you on something here. He is in fact NOT a "sucko piece of crap". He is the President of the United States. If we ever want this stuff to stop the first thing you need to bring to the table is respect. He is the leader of this country and his authority supersedes yours and mine by orders of magnitude. This kind of name calling only engenders more hatred. This does not promote healing, it encourages more acts of hatred.

You should maybe read her post past the first sentence. See the forest; don't get hung up on a tree.

But that bit tainted the rest of the post. And yes, I do respect Coyote enough to read the entirety of her posts. But it just isn't the same when you say "He's a sucko piece of crap president". This defeats the entire cause of calling for civility. But I agreed with the rest of her post.

Sorry, Pogo.

It was partly a rhetorical device, but you do have a point.

Seems to me the reader who gets hung up on a characterization in the first sentence, is missing the forest for one of its trees. The wise analyst knows where the actual point is and what part may be allowed to go whizzing by enroute to it.

(Not that I haven't been guilty of the same treegazing TK, but that's the ideal).

Neener

 

[playtime]

Amost all the fake news and BS is RW..

not at all. The MSM is 95% liberal so all the news they have presented for the last 50 years has been fake. Thanks to Sir Donald the whole world knows it now.

'sir' donald?

more like prisoner # 3576620

 

[Iceweasel]

Hillary did a lot wrong, that's why Comey fell back on the intent angle. Which hasn't excused anyone further down the food chain. Lerner's day is coming.

Like I said, you dupes are totally FOS. All investigated. NADA. GOPer Comey is a big mouth idiot, cost Hillary the election based on Russian hacking and fake news.

Source?

All media in the world but your bs propaganda machine...Comey said he saw (russian) story on the AG and Bill Clinton meeting -she would "take it easy on Hilary" and then decided on that letter to congress ten days before the election...

10 things learned at FBI Director James Comey's hearing ... - CNN.com
www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/comey-senate-hearing-highlights/index.html
May 3, 2017 - FBI Director James Comey addressed senators for four hours Wednesday, giving ... mostly related to Russia's meddling in the US election last year. ... 10 things we learned from FBI Director JamesComey's Senate hearing ..... Story highlights ... Bill Clinton met privately with Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
The decision Bill Clinton made that cost Hillary the election - Chicago ...
www.chicagotribune.com/.../ct-james-comey-hillary-bill-clinton-20170504-story.html
May 4, 2017 - If Bill Clinton hadn't boarded Loretta Lynch's plane in June, James Comey might not have spoken out in July, then again in October, and Hillary ... and again, with devastating effect, in late October, 11 days before the election. ... "I sent a private letter" to Congress, he said — as if it wouldn't immediately leak.
Key moments from Jim Comey's Senate testimony - POLITICO
www.politico.com/story/2017/.../james-comey-senate-testimony-key-moments-23792...
May 3, 2017 - The FBI director says the idea that the agency affected the election ... 05/03/2017 10:38 AM EDT ... before the Senate Judiciary Committee, one day after Hillary Clinton ... Comey said Russia backed Trump because he wasn't Clinton. ... Comey said the impromptu meeting between then-Attorney General ...

What was his evidence again?

A guide to the past year in James Comey news and scoops - The ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../its-been-one-heck-of-a-year-for-james-comey-lets-r...
Jun 6, 2017 - James Comey's testimony, in less than three minutes ... most recent Washington Post reporting on Comey, Trump and the Russia ... a meeting with Bill Clinton damaged her ability to appear impartial. ... by sending the letter less than two weeks before Election Day. .... Keeping up with politics iseasy now.
Dismissal of James Comey - Wikipedia
Dismissal of James Comey - Wikipedia
James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), was dismissed by U.S. President Donald Trump on May 9, 2017. Comey had been under public and political pressure as a result of both the FBI's role in the Hillary Clinton email controversy and the FBI's investigation of Russian ... Appearing before Congress two days after the dismissal, Acting FBI Director ...

The Amazon Post AND wikipedia.

LOL

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Isn't that ironic, since Liberalism gave you the Second Amendment. Along with, I might add, the rest of the Constitution.

History is a lost art.

What we have today is leftism. Read JFK's inaugural address. The left today would be howling and melting in horror if Trump gave it today.

History is a lost art.

Nothing in the above was about "leftism". It was about -- you can read it sitting right there -- Liberalism.

Unfortunately, moving the goalposts is NOT a lost art.

Funny you ignore how today's leftists reject JFK. Funny how you also run from who you are.

Funny how you're so piss-pants scared of the topic that you had to change it to something else.

Oh well.

Says the dufus claiming he's just like the Founding Fathers.

founding fathers were very very conservative and for tiny tiny govt much like modern Republicans. Bernie is the new Democrat is an anti American socialist who honeymooned in the USSR.

 

[Iceweasel]

Now, let call attention to this poster's sig line. The same language was being used by the attacker on his facebook feed. Am I saying this poster will go out and target some conservatives? No, but from where I'm sitting, he's beginning down the same path.

"Impeach Putin's Treasonous Bitch"

For me that's a red flag.

Uhhh.... impeachment is legal. Firearm assault is not.

Paying attention to the mental state is important, too. Or are we just going to ignore the proclivities of the person who tried to assassinate members of congress today? Hodgkinson was using some of the same language on his Facebook feed.

Impeach, Destroy, Terminate, Treason... the language is key. It is a window into the mind of the person in question.

"Impeach" is in no way synonymous with "destroy". It's a remedy spelled out in the Constitution.

If a person feels the President (any President) should be impeached ---- why should they be suppressed from saying so? Or put on some suspicion list? "Impeach" is not an act of violence. Never has been, never will be.

So I guess all of these folks are all guilty of wanting to destroy the government?

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no. however- trump- if proven to have his own little CONnection to the russians will be impeached. looky how quick it's going down & obama, for 8 years never even had a fear of it.

Because the right respects the democratic process and the left churns out fake news like a manure spreader.

 

[koshergrl]

‘If a Muslim Did This, the Perpetrator Would Be Immediately Identified as a Terrorist’

(The Muslims of America Inc.)

Robert Doggart: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

The fact that the case originally received no local or national media coverage and has resulted in an outcry from The Muslims of America, Inc., the organization and community Doggart targeted.

The organization said in a press release it was notified about the threat and worked with state and federal authorities to provide Islamberg residents with around the clock security.


“Doggart is an example of the results of unchecked and rampant Islamophobia which has spread lies for years about our peaceful community,” the organization’s public relations director, Mathew Gardner, said in a statement. “This man plotted to mercilessly kill us, kill our children, and blow up our mosque and our school. We have sound reason to believe he has already visited our other locations around the U.S. What other murderous plans do he and his private militia have and where are his accomplices?”

“All would agree, if a Muslim did this, the perpetrator would be immediately identified as a terrorist then prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The examples are numerous,” Gardner said. “Therefore, we call on all branches of justice to see to it that this man is prosecuted for planning a heinous hate crime and terrorist act.”

Oh look, a bunch of muslim slaves being forced to protest.

Not like that hasn't happened before...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Amost all the fake news and BS is RW..

not at all. The MSM is 95% liberal so all the news they have presented for the last 50 years has been fake. Thanks to Sir Donald the whole world knows it now.

'sir' donald?

more like prisoner # 3576620

imagine the huge service he has already performed by teaching us that the MSM is liberal fake news? Don't you think its important that we get real news?

 

[tycho1572]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

This shooting highlights the need for some against Trump to think twice before expressing their level disappointment. High profile people on left should have been speaking out against any violence long before this happened.

This guy lost it. Dems always do say NO VIOLENCE- Trump eggs his supporters on. There has been a big surge in violence against Jews, blacks, gays- NOT against RWers or by Dems. That's propaganda videos repeated endlessly on Fox etc, not facts. And those are a tiny number of anarchists and gangsta wannabees, not Dems like Rush and Sean go on about endlessly.

I don't see any RW'ers out starting fights at pro-Trump rallies and stabbing horses. Do you?

And a couple non news events mean something, dupe? Your RW media is a disgrace. We MAY know about a surge in RW violence against gays, Musims, jews, and blacks. ALL of you dupes know by heart a couple of tiny incidents, highly debatable, hateful narrations about some non-Dem fools. Stabbing a horse? We have no clue what your FOS hate machine is blaring about. lol. Why isn't real media covering it? Because it's crap, ignoramus.

I'm not surprised you're clueless about that ugly antifa bitch stabbing a horse....
Antifa Member Stabs Police Horse in Neck at Pennsylvania Demonstration

 

[Jackson]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

That was a good post, Coyote. You were right. And 90% of us are guilty of the vengeful discourd we have with those across the aisle. We are part of the problem. HOw many people on this board are moved to hate and possible negative actions that we claim is absurd.

We have to change our dialogue to stop the insults, name calling and just plain lies. I have been guilty of the negative coments as well. I am going to check myself and hope to debate anyone with civil discussions, providing links to what I find as proof. I just hope some if not all will join me in have a respectable dialogue with those with whom I disagree.

My apologies for some of my posts that did not follow that path.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

uh-huh. trump has had his share of white suprememies show up at his rallies from the start. no worries though. he's a goner.

i can't wait.

Then go to sleep and start dreaming about it since that's all it is.

 

[Jackson]

And a perfect example of what I was talking about...

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

uh-huh. trump rallies were nothing but giant love fests, right? & i am positive you were incredulous & outraged at the portland alt right white supremacist who stabbed to death innocent men defending innocent muslim women on that train right?

...another Bernie Bro, not a alt-right, whatever that is. Yes, Trump rallies were a love fest, a few maggots tried to spoil it and lost though.

uh-huh. trump has had his share of white suprememies show up at his rallies from the start. no worries though. he's a goner.

i can't wait.

Do you have a link for white supremists coming to rallies at the request of the president?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

"HOW DARE THEY": Nancy Pelosi Goes off on Republicans attacking Democrats over Scalise shooting

Nancy Pelosi just went off on Republicans attacking Democrats over the Scalise shooting - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Pogo]

Isn't that ironic, since Liberalism gave you the Second Amendment. Along with, I might add, the rest of the Constitution.

History is a lost art.

What we have today is leftism. Read JFK's inaugural address. The left today would be howling and melting in horror if Trump gave it today.

History is a lost art.

Nothing in the above was about "leftism". It was about -- you can read it sitting right there -- Liberalism.

Unfortunately, moving the goalposts is NOT a lost art.

Funny you ignore how today's leftists reject JFK. Funny how you also run from who you are.

Funny how you're so piss-pants scared of the topic that you had to change it to something else.

Oh well.

Says the dufus claiming he's just like the Founding Fathers.

Hey I look good for a guy 250 years old. Good genes, so sue me.

The point remains, you couldn't handle a point on "Liberal" so you had to shift it to "left".
I accept your humble concession. Now go learn your shit.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

This shooting highlights the need for some against Trump to think twice before expressing their level disappointment. High profile people on left should have been speaking out against any violence long before this happened.

This guy lost it. Dems always do say NO VIOLENCE- Trump eggs his supporters on. There has been a big surge in violence against Jews, blacks, gays- NOT against RWers or by Dems. That's propaganda videos repeated endlessly on Fox etc, not facts. And those are a tiny number of anarchists and gangsta wannabees, not Dems like Rush and Sean go on about endlessly.

You silly fucking dupe, yesterday someone indoctrinated in the manner you are, tried to kill Congressmen at a charity softball game.

You fail, you silly fuck. Fuck you. I don't miss @ 50 yards.

No sir. I don't miss @ 100-200 either. Nobody died, afaik.

Don't piss us off, dude. I could make 10 headshots in 15 seconds.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, they protest EXORBITANT taxation just so people like you can get your free shit.

Tax rates now are at their lowest levels in a long, long time. This isn't about taxation, this is about you all trying to posture about a subject in order to be taken seriously amid political discourse.

It doesn't work. I don't take you seriously.

What do you consider a long, long time? Taxes are about the same as they were during Reagan. And don't challenge me on that. I have the FactCheck link right in my folder.