How can there ever be peace here?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes there is; it's called the Israeli military. You can't lose sight of the fact that this is, by legal definition, an "occupation". And the Israeli military, is the administrator of that occupation. Which carry's certain obligations with respect to international humanitarian law (IHL). And according to the UN, Israel is in violation of IHL.

What Israel is doing to the Palestinian's is pretty fucked.



And people who actively support Israeli tyranny over the Pals, are pretty fucked too! They are skumbag humans that are nothing but a cancer to this planet.

What do you feel Israel is occupying?

Any land that Israel controls that is outside its borders is occupied.

What country did the "occupied" land belong to before Israel controlled it?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What do you feel Israel is occupying?

Any land that Israel controls that is outside its borders is occupied.

What country did the "occupied" land belong to before Israel controlled it?

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians.

WOW, what a bizarre concept.

 

[JStone]

Any land that Israel controls that is outside its borders is occupied.

What country did the "occupied" land belong to before Israel controlled it?

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians.

WOW, what a bizarre concept.

Palestine was a bogus European name for Israel. The Romans called Jewish Israel palestine during the Roman Empire that ended 1500 years ago.

Does Italy own Israel?

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Professor of Religion, Boston University; Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University; Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish rebel] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews by Paula Fredriksen - Book - Random House

PBS...

In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.

It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.

But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLypbbijk2I&feature=relmfu]The Gifts of the Jews - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Billo_Really]

What do you feel Israel is occupying?

Stop being obtuse!

If you're not aware of why they call this area, the "occupied territories", then you're not even qualified to debate this issue. Go do your homework, when you're up to speed on the legal issues regarding this topic, then we'll continue the debate.

There is no sense in continuing this conversation, if you're gonna ask dumbass questions like that.

BUREAU OF PALESTINIAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE ISSUES STATEMENT TO MARK 40 YEARS OF OCCUPATION BY ISRAEL OF PALESTINIAN TERRITORY

The following statement was issued today by the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People to mark 40 years of occupation by Israel of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem:

This week marks the fortieth anniversary of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem. Following the end of the June 1967 hostilities, the Security Council in resolution 242 emphasized, among other things, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war, and affirmed the need for a withdrawal of Israel from territories occupied in the conflict, and the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognised boundaries. That resolution and many others adopted since June 1967 have not been implemented to date. The military occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, unprecedented in modern history, continues to this very day.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What do you feel Israel is occupying?

Stop being obtuse!

If you're not aware of why they call this area, the "occupied territories", then you're not even qualified to debate this issue. Go do your homework, when you're up to speed on the legal issues regarding this topic, then we'll continue the debate.

There is no sense in continuing this conversation, if you're gonna ask dumbass questions like that.

BUREAU OF PALESTINIAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE ISSUES STATEMENT TO MARK 40 YEARS OF OCCUPATION BY ISRAEL OF PALESTINIAN TERRITORY

The following statement was issued today by the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People to mark 40 years of occupation by Israel of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem:

This week marks the fortieth anniversary of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem. Following the end of the June 1967 hostilities, the Security Council in resolution 242 emphasized, among other things, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war, and affirmed the need for a withdrawal of Israel from territories occupied in the conflict, and the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognised boundaries. That resolution and many others adopted since June 1967 have not been implemented to date. The military occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, unprecedented in modern history, continues to this very day.

Can't answer a simple question?
Who owned the territory before Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What do you feel Israel is occupying?

Stop being obtuse!

If you're not aware of why they call this area, the "occupied territories", then you're not even qualified to debate this issue. Go do your homework, when you're up to speed on the legal issues regarding this topic, then we'll continue the debate.

There is no sense in continuing this conversation, if you're gonna ask dumbass questions like that.

BUREAU OF PALESTINIAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE ISSUES STATEMENT TO MARK 40 YEARS OF OCCUPATION BY ISRAEL OF PALESTINIAN TERRITORY

The following statement was issued today by the Bureau of the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People to mark 40 years of occupation by Israel of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem:

This week marks the fortieth anniversary of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem. Following the end of the June 1967 hostilities, the Security Council in resolution 242 emphasized, among other things, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war, and affirmed the need for a withdrawal of Israel from territories occupied in the conflict, and the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognised boundaries. That resolution and many others adopted since June 1967 have not been implemented to date. The military occupation of the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, unprecedented in modern history, continues to this very day.

Can't answer a simple question?
Who owned the territory before Israel?

Bad question.

Israel does not own any territory.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Stop being obtuse!

If you're not aware of why they call this area, the "occupied territories", then you're not even qualified to debate this issue. Go do your homework, when you're up to speed on the legal issues regarding this topic, then we'll continue the debate.

There is no sense in continuing this conversation, if you're gonna ask dumbass questions like that.

Can't answer a simple question?
Who owned the territory before Israel?

Bad question.

Israel does not own any territory.

Israel owns more than "Palestine" does.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Can't answer a simple question?
Who owned the territory before Israel?

Bad question.

Israel does not own any territory.

Israel owns more than "Palestine" does.

Why don't you post a map of Israel with its real borders not those 1949 armistice lines that are specifically not borders?

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Bad question.

Israel does not own any territory.

Israel owns more than "Palestine" does.

Why don't you post a map of Israel with its real borders not those 1949 armistice lines that are specifically not borders?

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You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel owns more than "Palestine" does.

Why don't you post a map of Israel with its real borders not those 1949 armistice lines that are specifically not borders?

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You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rFNbSKpEE]Picard song & dance - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why don't you post a map of Israel with its real borders not those 1949 armistice lines that are specifically not borders?

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You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rFNbSKpEE]Picard song & dance - YouTube[/ame]

Jews make you sad.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rFNbSKpEE]Picard song & dance - YouTube[/ame]

Jews make you sad.

?????

 

[MJB12741]

Are you saying that all Muslim lands are "inadmissable" becuase they were acquired "through the threat or use of force"?

Israel has been attacking imaginary people for over 60 years and has not won yet.

Pesky Arabs have been attacking Israel for a while.
Every time they use their armies, the Israelis win more land.

That is what the propaganda says. However that is not true. Israel has won nothing.

It is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you saying that all Muslim lands are "inadmissable" becuase they were acquired "through the threat or use of force"?

Pesky Arabs have been attacking Israel for a while.
Every time they use their armies, the Israelis win more land.

That is what the propaganda says. However that is not true. Israel has won nothing.

It is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force.

Did I say that?

No I didn't say that.

 

[Hossfly]

Are you saying that all Muslim lands are "inadmissable" becuase they were acquired "through the threat or use of force"?

That is what the propaganda says. However that is not true. Israel has won nothing.

It is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force.

Did I say that?

No I didn't say that.

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[Billo_Really]

Can't answer a simple question?

Simple questions I can answer; dumbass ones I ignore.

Like if I asked you, "Is the sky blue?" Would you answer that?

Who owned the territory before Israel?

It wasn't Israel. Besides, it's irrelevant. What is relevant is that Israel has no legal right to that land and they need to leave.

 

[Billo_Really]

You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

You watch way too much Walker, Texas Ranger.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You want a map of the country where the Jews are in charge?
The country that beats every Arab army they go up against?

You watch way too much Walker, Texas Ranger.

Did I miss the episode where the Jews beat the Arabs?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Can't answer a simple question?

Simple questions I can answer; dumbass ones I ignore.

Like if I asked you, "Is the sky blue?" Would you answer that?

Who owned the territory before Israel?

It wasn't Israel. Besides, it's irrelevant. What is relevant is that Israel has no legal right to that land and they need to leave.

It wasn't Israel.

Who was it?

Besides, it's irrelevant.

Simple question, why can't you answer?

 

[Billo_Really]

It wasn't Israel.

Who was it?

Besides, it's irrelevant.

Simple question, why can't you answer?

It's not that I can't, I won't! It has nothing to do with the current situation, which is the occupation. Why can't you stay a little more focused on the topic, or explain where you're going with this "question" of yours?