How come there are over 40,000 christian denominations and more invented daily

[ding]

You keep saying that, but we both know that isn't true. But then again it is all you have. So, I forgive you.

So how did Noah get marsupials from Australia and back again?

That too was an allegorical account.

So what sect of Christianity doesn't believe that the bible stories are true? I bet you're wearing magic underwear.

The account of Genesis is allegorical. God did not magically create the universe in one step. He set the rules of nature and let nature take its course. You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise. Here is the proof you have been looking for. Maybe one day, you will realize that the exact moment you lost this argument was when you admitted that tangible items could be used as evidence. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

 

[Mudda]

So how did Noah get marsupials from Australia and back again?

That too was an allegorical account.

So what sect of Christianity doesn't believe that the bible stories are true? I bet you're wearing magic underwear.

The account of Genesis is allegorical. God did not magically create the universe in one step. He set the rules of nature and let nature take its course. You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise. Here is the proof you have been looking for. Maybe one day, you will realize that the exact moment you lost this argument was when you admitted that tangible items could be used as evidence. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

 

[ding]

That too was an allegorical account.

So what sect of Christianity doesn't believe that the bible stories are true? I bet you're wearing magic underwear.

The account of Genesis is allegorical. God did not magically create the universe in one step. He set the rules of nature and let nature take its course. You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise. Here is the proof you have been looking for. Maybe one day, you will realize that the exact moment you lost this argument was when you admitted that tangible items could be used as evidence. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

 

[Mudda]

So what sect of Christianity doesn't believe that the bible stories are true? I bet you're wearing magic underwear.

The account of Genesis is allegorical. God did not magically create the universe in one step. He set the rules of nature and let nature take its course. You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise. Here is the proof you have been looking for. Maybe one day, you will realize that the exact moment you lost this argument was when you admitted that tangible items could be used as evidence. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

 

[Meriweather]

You're wrong, the bible says 6 days, and means 6 days. Please try again.

In Hebrew, the more accurate connotation is a period of time, such as a day, that has a beginning and an end. The same Hebrew word that is translated as "day" in Genesis is used in other books of the Bible and it clearly means "a very long period of time that began and ended".

When we teach students science, we assign vocabulary words with match scientific definitions. To apply these later scientific definitions to understand the Bible makes no sense at all. It would be like translating "campfire cooking" as "microwave cooking".

 

[ding]

The account of Genesis is allegorical. God did not magically create the universe in one step. He set the rules of nature and let nature take its course. You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise. Here is the proof you have been looking for. Maybe one day, you will realize that the exact moment you lost this argument was when you admitted that tangible items could be used as evidence. The reality is that the Bible correctly explains that the universe had a beginning and was created in steps. Science tells us that the universe did have a beginning and what we see today is a result of the evolution of matter and was a process that was done in steps. Subatomic particles evolved into hydrogen and helium. Hydrogen and helium formed cosmic structures. Supernovas created the other elements. Chemical evolution created all the compounds. Life mad the leap from inorganic matter to organic matter. Life made the leap from single cells to multi cells and to eventually beings that know and create. The laws of nature came into existence at the time space and time were created. Those laws predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. Check mate.

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

You are the one who is deflecting. See posts #561 and 562. We have been discussing proof that the universe had a beginning and that the laws of nature - which came into existence when space and time were created - predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. I have provided my scientific proof. You have not. Look, just admit that you are full of crap and have no evidence to deny these self evident truths and we can move on to the next subject. Until then I will continue to bludgeon you with scientific facts and ridicule your ignorance on this subject. The choice is yours.

 

[Meriweather]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

 

[ding]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

For what it is worth, Mudda claims he was raised as a Catholic.

 

[Meriweather]

For what it is worth, Mudda claims he was raised as a Catholic.

Could be. However, when atheist/scientist wish to debunk religion they tend to pick up on Fundamentalist beliefs (as if all believers are Fundamentalists) and debunk those.

What is interesting, almost unbelievable about those who claim to be atheist-scientists, is that they use science in an attempt to debunk philosophy. Philosophy (the category in which religion falls), deals with that which cannot be measured. These scientists note that science is limited to that which can be measured, which is true. Science deals with physical objects which can be measured. Then they make the astounding claim that anything that cannot be measured must be false. Love, values, truth, faith, morals, beauty, joy, happiness, honesty, and the best way to live life all fall under philosophy/religion and atheist-scientists want to argue these don't really exist (no measurement) and are of no consequence.

Do people really think knowing the exact square-foot measurement of their house and yard (which can be measured) is more vital than happy and integrity (which cannot be measured)?

Would-be scientists would do well to stay within their measured science. They are quickly out of their depth when it comes to that which cannot be measured.

 

[Mudda]

You're wrong, the bible says 6 days, and means 6 days. Please try again.

In Hebrew, the more accurate connotation is a period of time, such as a day, that has a beginning and an end. The same Hebrew word that is translated as "day" in Genesis is used in other books of the Bible and it clearly means "a very long period of time that began and ended".

When we teach students science, we assign vocabulary words with match scientific definitions. To apply these later scientific definitions to understand the Bible makes no sense at all. It would be like translating "campfire cooking" as "microwave cooking".

You're still wrong.

 

[Mudda]

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

You are the one who is deflecting. See posts #561 and 562. We have been discussing proof that the universe had a beginning and that the laws of nature - which came into existence when space and time were created - predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise. I have provided my scientific proof. You have not. Look, just admit that you are full of crap and have no evidence to deny these self evident truths and we can move on to the next subject. Until then I will continue to bludgeon you with scientific facts and ridicule your ignorance on this subject. The choice is yours.

Scientific facts you've provided? Name one.

 

[Mudda]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

ding is too embarrassed to say which denomination he is.

 

[Mudda]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

For what it is worth, Mudda claims he was raised as a Catholic.

Actually, raised in the Protestant faith but went to a Catholic boys school. Maybe that's why I'm a religious mess?

 

[Meriweather]

You're still wrong.

Sure, in your mind. However, it can be shown that "day" as used in the Hebrew language was also used to mean "long period of time which had a beginning and end).

 

[Mudda]

You're still wrong.

Sure, in your mind. However, it can be shown that "day" as used in the Hebrew language was also used to mean "long period of time which had a beginning and end).

It's English, not Hebrew, so you're wrong. Move on.

 

[ding]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

ding is too embarrassed to say which denomination he is.

It's not a big secret. It's in my profile, lol.

 

[ding]

You're still wrong.

Sure, in your mind. However, it can be shown that "day" as used in the Hebrew language was also used to mean "long period of time which had a beginning and end).

I almost spit coffee on my keyboard with his its in English remark. I suspect we are dealing with someone of inferior intelligence.

 

[Mudda]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

ding is too embarrassed to say which denomination he is.

It's not a big secret. It's in my profile, lol.

"catholic". As if, lol. The pope believes the story of genesis is true. When you get to hell, remember, don't pass Adolf the salt.

 

[Meriweather]

It's English, not Hebrew, so you're wrong. Move on.

The original language in which Genesis was written was Hebrew. Hebrew is a language of images (i.e. day to demonstrate a period of time that has a beginning and an end) whereas English is a very subjective language (i.e. a period of time). It's good to know these things as we move on through the Bible.

 

[ding]

Holy Deflection Batman!!!

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Catholics for one. It was the theory I was taught decades ago in Catholic school. Remember, there are actually very few denominations that teach an extremely literal view of the Bible. Which of these denomination(s) are you thinking of?

ding is too embarrassed to say which denomination he is.

It's not a big secret. It's in my profile, lol.

"catholic". As if, lol. The pope believes the story of genesis is true. When you get to hell, remember, don't pass Adolf the salt.

I see. Now you will resort to childish games. That is not uncommon when someone has been defeated on the intellectual battlefield. Unfortunately for you, I don't care what you believe about me or my faith. Go right ahead. It's all you have.