How is job creation supposed to compete with welfare?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's easy to find good workers if an employer pays well. If an employer has a hard time finding workers they aren't worth working for. Do you expect someone to work hard for $12 per hour? Who is that abjectly dumb? You want work ethic then pay for it. This nobody wants to work anymore is rubbish. Untrue. You want lower wages for people than welfare pays. That's the fault of employers then they aren't keeping up.

It depends on where that $12.00 per hour is. That's good money if the cost of living is low. My base pay is only $2,00 more than that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If a business has a hard time finding workers it's 100 percent the fault of the business. I would hope they move overseas

You really are that f-ing stupid! Do you enjoy busting the better part of $20.00 bill for fast food?

 

[Slyhunter]

I’m just thinking here and I don’t have some stupid link to someone else with a media platform. But how does this work out in the end?

Welfare pays better than not just minimum wage but really a thousand a week is getting into well paid profession territory. How do we correct that?

It can’t be done by raising taxes on those people with the jobs. It can’t be done with more government spending.

How do we get out of this now that 50k a year is the new poverty level? 15 an hour can’t compete.

So how do we get those 2 million jobs filled with people on welfare making more.

I think Welfare should pay enough to pay the rent, put cheap food on the tables and maybe cover utilities.
If you want more than that then you should get a job.
However, of you are on welfare you should be sterilized.

 

[Slyhunter]

We used to have something called "work ethic" back in the day. My departed Grandfather talked about how taking financial assistance was a shame that no healthy man would ever want. That is how much things change in a couple of generations.

Many folks under 40 ( with no college degrees ) rather stay home play video games , smoke pot and drink

 

[Slyhunter]

If a business has a hard time finding workers it's 100 percent the fault of the business. I would hope they move overseas

You really are that f-ing stupid! Do you enjoy busting the better part of $20.00 bill for fast food?

maybe, we should spend more to insure everyone has a living wage on luxuries. We don't need fast food. but those who work for fast food need to pay the rent.

 

[Slyhunter]

I’m just thinking here and I don’t have some stupid link to someone else with a media platform. But how does this work out in the end?

Welfare pays better than not just minimum wage but really a thousand a week is getting into well paid profession territory. How do we correct that?

It can’t be done by raising taxes on those people with the jobs. It can’t be done with more government spending.

How do we get out of this now that 50k a year is the new poverty level? 15 an hour can’t compete.

So how do we get those 2 million jobs filled with people on welfare making more.

I think Welfare should pay enough to pay the rent, put cheap food on the tables and maybe cover utilities.
If you want more than that then you should get a job.
However, of you are on welfare you should be sterilized.

talking to myself now, you know maybe two incomes should guarantee payment on all household bills and food for two people.

 

[JoeB131]

We used to have something called "work ethic" back in the day. My departed Grandfather talked about how taking financial assistance was a shame that no healthy man would ever want. That is how much things change in a couple of generations.

Back in the day, people like your grandfather were either in unions or they worked for companies that paid to compete with union wages.

Here's the ugly reality- Last year, the government spend half a trillion dollars on poverty relief programs - Food Stamps, Section 8, TANF, WIC, Medicaid. We spent 2 1/2 Trillion on Middle Class Entitlements (or as I loving call it "White People Welfare") to keep middle class white people from becoming poor white people when they get too old to work or get laid off.

but wait, there's more. Most of the jobs done in your grandfather's day were simple, mindless tasks that required no education. Today, those jobs have all been replaced by machines.

So, yeah, it's easy to have a "Work Ethic" when you have a job that pays well and is readily available.

 

[BlackSand]

I think Welfare should pay enough to pay the rent, put cheap food on the tables and maybe cover utilities.
If you want more than that then you should get a job.
However, of you are on welfare you should be sterilized.

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What part of the US Constitution grants the Federal Government the power to force one citizen to assume responsibility for another citizen's personal debt?​

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[Slyhunter]

I think Welfare should pay enough to pay the rent, put cheap food on the tables and maybe cover utilities.
If you want more than that then you should get a job.
However, of you are on welfare you should be sterilized.

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What part of the US Constitution grants the Federal Government the power to force one citizen to assume responsibility for another citizen's personal debt?​

Maybe we need to amend the Constitution if it lacks compassion.
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[BlackSand]

Slyhunter ... "Maybe we need to amend the Constitution if it lacks compassion."

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There is a process for Amending the US Constitution contained within the US Constitution.
If you care to Amend the US Constitution, then do what is required to accomplish that.

That also doesn't mean we grant the Federal Government powers that have already been reserved to the States.
If you want to turn your State into a failing Socialist shithole, no one is stopping you, ignorant twat ...

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[Slyhunter]

Slyhunter ... "Maybe we need to amend the Constitution if it lacks compassion."

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There is a process for Amending the US Constitution contained within the US Constitution.
If you care to Amend the US Constitution, then do what is required to accomplish that.

That also doesn't mean we grant the Federal Government powers that have already been reserved to the States.
If you want to turn your State into a failing Socialist shithole, no one is stopping you, ignorant twat ...

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I'm an ignorant twat because I believe if you work for a living you should earn a living and not slave wages.

 

[BlackSand]

Slyhunter ... "I'm an ignorant twat because I believe if you work for a living you should earn a living and not slave wages."

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No ... You are an ignorant twat because you lack the wherewithal to understand you cannot just make up laws to suit your desires,
and specifically when they don't address the origin of debt, or the powers granted to the government.

You are also an ignorant twat if you cannot earn a living without accepting slave wages.
You are also an ignorant twat if you think you need to task the Federal Government to do what you should be doing where you live.

I could add more, but you're an ignorant twat, and that wouldn't serve much purpose ...

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[Seawytch]

Analysis: No, unemployment benefits aren't the problem

America's job market is in a weird spot: it's still millions of jobs short of where it was before the pandemic, but businesses complain they can't find staff. Opponents of enhanced unemployment benefits during Covid say the government aid is so cushy, the jobless don't want to return to work.

www.cnn.com

 

[Slyhunter]

Slyhunter ... "I'm an ignorant twat because I believe if you work for a living you should earn a living and not slave wages."

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No ... You are an ignorant twat because you lack the wherewithal to understand you cannot just make up laws to suit your desires,
and specifically when they don't address the origin of debt, or the powers granted to the government.

You are also an ignorant twat if you cannot earn a living without accepting slave wages.
You are also an ignorant twat if you think you need to task the Federal Government to do what you should be doing where you live.

I could add more, but you're an ignorant twat, and that wouldn't serve much purpose ...

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Even today we have ads in the paper requiring Bachelor degrees for $15.00 an hour. Ridiculously low wages. Employers expect too much for far too little.

 

[BlackSand]

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Even today we have ads in the paper requiring Bachelor degrees for $15.00 an hour. Ridiculously low wages. Employers expect too much for far too little.

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That is the inevitable result of what happens when you destroy the actual value of a college degree.
When you are producing college graduates with the mentality of a high school freshmen at best, they should not expect more than they are worth.

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[Brain357]

Business doesn't grow. You are in Joe's World now where no one works because Joe gives out money All it cost is your self worth, your sole, your pride and register a democRat

Remember that time Trump tried to executive order the additional payments. Do try to act like it’s just a Joe thing.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Slyhunter ... "I'm an ignorant twat because I believe if you work for a living you should earn a living and not slave wages."

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No ... You are an ignorant twat because you lack the wherewithal to understand you cannot just make up laws to suit your desires,
and specifically when they don't address the origin of debt, or the powers granted to the government.

You are also an ignorant twat if you cannot earn a living without accepting slave wages.
You are also an ignorant twat if you think you need to task the Federal Government to do what you should be doing where you live.

I could add more, but you're an ignorant twat, and that wouldn't serve much purpose ...

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Even today we have ads in the paper requiring Bachelor degrees for $15.00 an hour. Ridiculously low wages. Employers expect too much for far too little.

I doubt it’s required but you’re taking the wrong lesson from it if they are asking for that. It means these college’s have denigrated their educational standards to the point a bachelor’s is pretty much worthless. It’s the equivalent of what used to be a high school graduate.

 

[Dadoalex]

I’m just thinking here and I don’t have some stupid link to someone else with a media platform. But how does this work out in the end?

Welfare pays better than not just minimum wage but really a thousand a week is getting into well paid profession territory. How do we correct that?

It can’t be done by raising taxes on those people with the jobs. It can’t be done with more government spending.

How do we get out of this now that 50k a year is the new poverty level? 15 an hour can’t compete.

So how do we get those 2 million jobs filled with people on welfare making more.

It's the beginning of a massive labor movement.

"PAY US OR WE CAN STARVE TOGETHER"

So maybe Mcdonalds pays 3B in dividends instead of 4B?

now how much they'll pay without the workers?
ZERO
And when we all make zero then nobody's rich.

So, communism or we all starve. Which is an odd stance since everywhere communism has been tried millions starve to death anyway. But hey, while your kids are starving because you were too lazy to go to work you can regale them with your worker movement battle stories.

Communism?
Do you have even the slightest idea what "communism" is?
No, look at your idiot post. You're as ignorant as any Cheeto-Head on the topic.

A quick question...

Absent labor how much would Mcdonald's make in any given year?
Ford?
EXXON?

why not go educate yourself on the topic so there's less stupid flowing from your brain?

 

[JoeB131]

What part of the US Constitution grants the Federal Government the power to force one citizen to assume responsibility for another citizen's personal debt?

The Commerce Clause. The Welfare Clause.

What part of the constitution prohibits it.

Here's the thing. We spend five times a much on middle class entitlements that keep middle class people from becoming poor than we spend making poor people a little less poor.

 

[BlackSand]

What part of the US Constitution grants the Federal Government the power to force one citizen to assume responsibility for another citizen's personal debt?

The Commerce Clause. The Welfare Clause.

What part of the constitution prohibits it.

Here's the thing. We spend five times a much on middle class entitlements that keep middle class people from becoming poor than we spend making poor people a little less poor.

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There is a difference in General Welfare and Individual Welfare.
The Federal Government can build Roads, Schools, Community Centers, Libraries, Athletic Facilities and whatnot ...
But it has not been granted the Power to make one Citizen responsible for another Citizen's individual debt or cost of living.

If someone is sent a check with their name on it ... There isn't anything General about it.
It doesn't even matter if think it is a good idea to help someone out ...

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