How long can they hold Kim Davis?

[peach174]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

 

[Vandalshandle]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

 

[Debra K]

I suppose Obama and the Attorney General should be thrown in jail for not honoring federal laws on immigration, sanctuary cities and drug enforcement. It seems for the Democratic Party laws are flexible if they don't, "feel" like following them.

Is there an existing court order compelling Obama and/or the Attorney General to do something in particular? if so, has there been a hearing? did the evidence presented at that hearing prove that Obama and the AG disobeyed the court order?

Or are you just whining about nothing?

That's the point they should be.
They are allowed to ignore existing laws.
Lois Learner broke the law and all she got was administrative leave.

There is no evidence that laws have been broken. As far as I know, federal authorities are following the law. If you want them to do more, then you need to petition your congressional representatives to budget more money for enforcement activities. Add hundreds of billions more to the budget for building and maintaining that 1,900 mile wall that you want, etc.

It was well established at the hearings that Lois broke the law by sharing highly confidential tax information of several Tea Party groups with the Federal Election Commission, a clear violation of federal law,

It is not "well established". Nevertheless, what does Lois have to do with Kim? are you saying if charges are not brought against Lois then Kim can't be held in contempt for her willful disobedience of a court order? what's your point?

 

[peach174]

I suppose Obama and the Attorney General should be thrown in jail for not honoring federal laws on immigration, sanctuary cities and drug enforcement. It seems for the Democratic Party laws are flexible if they don't, "feel" like following them.

Is there an existing court order compelling Obama and/or the Attorney General to do something in particular? if so, has there been a hearing? did the evidence presented at that hearing prove that Obama and the AG disobeyed the court order?

Or are you just whining about nothing?

That's the point they should be.
They are allowed to ignore existing laws.
Lois Learner broke the law and all she got was administrative leave.

There is no evidence that laws have been broken. As far as I know, federal authorities are following the law. If you want them to do more, then you need to petition your congressional representatives to budget more money for enforcement activities. Add hundreds of billions more to the budget for building and maintaining that 1,900 mile wall that you want, etc.

It was well established at the hearings that Lois broke the law by sharing highly confidential tax information of several Tea Party groups with the Federal Election Commission, a clear violation of federal law,

Damn! I didn't know that Lois was involved in the Kentucky contempt of court case!

She wasn't.
I answered a question made by Debra K.

 

[Debra K]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

Her personal beliefs are not a valid defense.

 

[peach174]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

All done before she became a Christian.

 

[peach174]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

Her personal beliefs are not a valid defense.

Her 1st amendment rights are.

 

[Vandalshandle]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

All done before she became a Christian.

...and yet, she is violating her oath of office, which involves the words, "...so help me god", after she became a Christian. Of course, I don't know if her fingers were crossed at the time....

 

[Debra K]

Works for me. All of her friends know where to find her when she has her next birthday party!

Anyone not seeing similarities to this stuff and the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s? What ideological belief will be jailed or sent to the gas chamber next by the rainbow jackboots and their sychophants in positions of power?

Cults are cults. I warned all of you what this gay marriage crap would lead to. They're not going to stop until we are all wearing rainbow arm bands, or dead. But for now, jail will do. They're just getting warmed up...

If you ever had a brain to begin with, you have been brainwashed.

In the scenario in Rowan County, KY, Kim Davis is the Nazi.

 

[Kondor3]

...In the scenario in Rowan County, KY, Kim Davis is the Nazi.

Horseshit.

 

[Debra K]

No court has ever ordered California to "comply with immigration laws".

And Kim Davis isn't being "punished" for anything.

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

Her personal beliefs are not a valid defense.

Her 1st amendment rights are.

Not when she acts as an agent for state government.

 

[peach174]

Since when is being jailed for one's religious beliefs (or anything else) not a punishment?

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

All done before she became a Christian.

...and yet, she is violating her oath of office, which involves the words, "...so help me god", after she became a Christian. Of course, I don't know if her fingers were crossed at the time....

So is President Obama.
In Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States, it says that "The president sees that the laws are faithfully executed."

Since President Obama ordered that the laws on immigration will NOT be faithfully executed, should he be impeached for breaking his Oath of Office of the President of the United States?

 

[Vandalshandle]

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

All done before she became a Christian.

...and yet, she is violating her oath of office, which involves the words, "...so help me god", after she became a Christian. Of course, I don't know if her fingers were crossed at the time....

So is President Obama.
In Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States, it says that "The president sees that the laws are faithfully executed."

Since President Obama ordered that the laws on immigration will NOT be faithfully executed, should he be impeached for breaking his Oath of Office of the President of the United States?

I am sure that the defense attorney will bring this up on Kim's hearing next Thursday.

 

[Debra K]

The judge told her she would determine how long she would be in jail. As soon as she agrees to follow the law, or resign and pass her duties to someone else, she's out.

I remember when the left thought that unlimited detention without a trial was a violation of someone's human rights...wait...that was only for terrorist and people who want to destroy america. How come the UN isn't complaining...wait...same reason.

She was given plenty of due process. A hearing was held and the facts were ascertained. The judge then issued a preliminary injunction, which enjoins enforcement of her unconstitutional policy of "no marriage licenses". She is appealing, but there is no likelihood that her appeal will be successful. Thus, both the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court declined to stay the injunction pending appeal. Therefore, the preliminary injunction must be obeyed ... but she has engaged in willful disobedience. This is a civil contempt proceeding and Kim Davis had her day in court. A hearing was held and Kim Davis essentially told the Court that she will never obey. Kim Davis has the keys to her jail cell in her own pocket. When she informs the court that she will obey the preliminary injunction, then she will be released.

As of today, she still remains defiant of the Court's order. Her attorneys are telling the public that the marriage licenses issued today by her deputy clerk are invalid because they were issued without her authority. She's continuing her obstruction even from her jail cell. She can get out of her jail cell anytime she wants ... she just doesn't want out because she thinks she's God's voice and vessel. She's a moron.

Same-sex couples issued marriage licenses in Rowan County; jailed clerk claims licenses are void

Yeah
Only the left are allowed to protest.

You did not address the content of my post.

I win.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So much misinformation to distribute. So little time......

Ridiculous lies from the reprehensible right.

 

[Debra K]

She hasn't been arrested.

Then why is she in jail?

She was not arrested. An arrest is based on probable cause to believe someone has committed a crime.

Kim Davis was adjudicated to be in civil contempt of a court order. She told the judge that she will continue to disobey the court's order. She was sent to jail to coerce her to comply. The keys to her jail cell are in her own pocket.

 

[auditor0007]

they have got to let her out sometime. When is that? When is her sentence up?

When she decided to comply or is voted out of office. Whichever comes first. She might be there a while.

 

[Debra K]

You are being ridiculous. She is not being jailed for her religious beliefs.

She is contempt of a court order. She willfully disobeyed. She told the court that she would continue to disobey. She was placed in jail to coerce her obedience with the court's order. She can get out of jail anytime she wants if she agrees to obey the court's order. She is still entitled to believe anything she wants.

Why is she willfully disobeying?
Because of her religious beliefs that marriage should be between one man and one woman.

True. Based on her personal life, it appears that she believes that marriage should be between one woman, and four men (or maybe 3 men, with one husband, twice).

All done before she became a Christian.

...and yet, she is violating her oath of office, which involves the words, "...so help me god", after she became a Christian. Of course, I don't know if her fingers were crossed at the time....

So is President Obama.
In Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States, it says that "The president sees that the laws are faithfully executed."

Since President Obama ordered that the laws on immigration will NOT be faithfully executed, should he be impeached for breaking his Oath of Office of the President of the United States?

This thread is not about Obama. If you think he is shirking his duties, contact your representatives in Congress. Ask them to bring impeachment proceedings.

Your complaints about the president have nothing to do with Kim Davis.

 

[Vandalshandle]

they have got to let her out sometime. When is that? When is her sentence up?

When she decided to comply or is voted out of office. Whichever comes first. She might be there a while.

I am sure that by the time she is out of the slammer, she will have come up with at least 20 reasons why the rest of us will burn in hell...like her husband, who walked around today with a sign reading, "Welcome to Sodom and Gomorrah" (Does this guy even have a job?)

 

[Debra K]

they have got to let her out sometime. When is that? When is her sentence up?

When she decided to comply or is voted out of office. Whichever comes first. She might be there a while.

Or the state legislature might pass a law next year that removes county clerks from the statutory scheme governing marriage licenses, or something similar. Then Kim Davis can be released.