How Trump has broken the polls

[Billy_Kinetta]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

Unfortunately for your fantasy we don't have elections via cherrypicking. I'm sure cherries are delicious and all but your logic here is full of fruit flies.

The fact remains, polling said Clinton would draw more fruit flies votes, and she did, although by the time the date was nearing it was too close to call, due to the dysfunction of the Electrical College.

What was dysfunctional about it?

See my above reference to the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Cackalackee, Utah, and we could add AridZona and we could also add Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia. In every one of those states NOBODY won as much as 50% of that state's vote yet they all (some by force of unConstitutional state law) sent 100% of their vote to a single candidate. A candidate that that state quantifiably did not choose.

That dysfunction.

That's HALF the total needed to win the EC right there.

Eh?

Votes choose electors. Majority wins. 50% is not required.

I think you'll find that the definition of majority REQUIRES 50% plus one.
Go ahead, check me. I'll wait.

Not with more than two candidates.

Yep, with any number.

Wanna see?

majority
noun


ma·jor·i·ty | \ mə-ˈjȯr-ə-tē , -ˈjär- \
plural majorities
Definition of majority

1 a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters; a two-thirds majority

Besides which, we all know there are only effectively two on the ballot given the Duopoly. You get a choice of Bad or Worse. Nobody votes "for" Bad. They vote AGAINST "Worse".

Your arguments are becoming decidedly thin.

 

[Pogo]

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Saw that coming from a mile away. Nate Silver...538...


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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

BOOM. Not science...Next fallacy?

AGAIN -- check those three crucial states. They're all blue here, they all went red there, by a COMBINED margin of something like 77,000 votes. CUMULATIVE.

Ditto Florida, which btw is yet another state Rump couldn't pull a 50% in, blue here, red there Ditto North Cackalackee, same thing.

Besides which you give no DATE for this poll, so there's another way you can "rig" a poll.

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Opinion polls
Turnout	55.7%[1] 0.8 pp
Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Party Republican Democratic Home state New York New York Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine Electoral vote 304[a] 227[a] States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514 Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Agree to an extent. The media is overtly partisan. Why would the pollsters be any different? They are both more interested in shaping opinion than disseminating facts. You mean he cannot even hire internal pollster to make it come out his way?

Except the battleground polling was terrible. Nobody gives a shit about polling in NYC or LA. Hillary was supposed the win Pennsylvania by 8 points. WTF happened. It was off in every battleground state and was all biased for Hillary.

YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short | YouGov

Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states

today.yougov.com

From the link:

>> As the 2016 campaign comes to a close, YouGov’s final polls indicate that Donald Trump’s Presidential bid will fail in a set of must-win Battleground states, such as North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Nevada. <<​

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And in fact Rump could not win any of those states. Check the vote totals.

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Trump has made gains in Florida, where he is now tied with Clinton, and Ohio, where he holds a narrow lead. <<​

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Of those two, Rump won Ohio. Could not bust 50% in Florida.

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>> However, to win the necessary 270 electoral votes for a majority, Trump will need to carry at least three of Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. <<​

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-- which is exactly what happened. All four in fact.

Notice that last part is about Electoral votes, where the previous is about voter votes. The shift is right after the word "However", where it should be.

You've got lots of cool stories bro.
Here's one of mine and it's only facts.
You lost. Trump won.

Actually I wasn't running.

The poster posted a link, I analyzed it. So sue me. Unless you wanna get analyzed.

 

[Pogo]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

Unfortunately for your fantasy we don't have elections via cherrypicking. I'm sure cherries are delicious and all but your logic here is full of fruit flies.

The fact remains, polling said Clinton would draw more fruit flies votes, and she did, although by the time the date was nearing it was too close to call, due to the dysfunction of the Electrical College.

What was dysfunctional about it?

See my above reference to the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Cackalackee, Utah, and we could add AridZona and we could also add Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia. In every one of those states NOBODY won as much as 50% of that state's vote yet they all (some by force of unConstitutional state law) sent 100% of their vote to a single candidate. A candidate that that state quantifiably did not choose.

That dysfunction.

That's HALF the total needed to win the EC right there.

Eh?

Votes choose electors. Majority wins. 50% is not required.

I think you'll find that the definition of majority REQUIRES 50% plus one.
Go ahead, check me. I'll wait.

Not with more than two candidates.

Yep, with any number.

Wanna see?

majority
noun


ma·jor·i·ty | \ mə-ˈjȯr-ə-tē , -ˈjär- \
plural majorities
Definition of majority

1 a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters; a two-thirds majority

Besides which, we all know there are only effectively two on the ballot given the Duopoly. You get a choice of Bad or Worse. Nobody votes "for" Bad. They vote AGAINST "Worse".

Your arguments are becoming decidedly thin.

Don't they look great? I know, I tried to trim the fat. And they still work.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

Unfortunately for your fantasy we don't have elections via cherrypicking. I'm sure cherries are delicious and all but your logic here is full of fruit flies.

The fact remains, polling said Clinton would draw more fruit flies votes, and she did, although by the time the date was nearing it was too close to call, due to the dysfunction of the Electrical College.

What was dysfunctional about it?

See my above reference to the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Cackalackee, Utah, and we could add AridZona and we could also add Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia. In every one of those states NOBODY won as much as 50% of that state's vote yet they all (some by force of unConstitutional state law) sent 100% of their vote to a single candidate. A candidate that that state quantifiably did not choose.

That dysfunction.

That's HALF the total needed to win the EC right there.

Eh?

Votes choose electors. Majority wins. 50% is not required.

I think you'll find that the definition of majority REQUIRES 50% plus one.
Go ahead, check me. I'll wait.

Not with more than two candidates.

Yep, with any number.

Wanna see?

majority
noun


ma·jor·i·ty | \ mə-ˈjȯr-ə-tē , -ˈjär- \
plural majorities
Definition of majority

1 a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters; a two-thirds majority

Besides which, we all know there are only effectively two on the ballot given the Duopoly. You get a choice of Bad or Worse. Nobody votes "for" Bad. They vote AGAINST "Worse".

Your arguments are becoming decidedly thin.

Don't they look great? I know, I tried to trim the fat. And they still work.

Thin as in addle-brained.

 

[Pogo]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

Unfortunately for your fantasy we don't have elections via cherrypicking. I'm sure cherries are delicious and all but your logic here is full of fruit flies.

The fact remains, polling said Clinton would draw more fruit flies votes, and she did, although by the time the date was nearing it was too close to call, due to the dysfunction of the Electrical College.

What was dysfunctional about it?

See my above reference to the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Cackalackee, Utah, and we could add AridZona and we could also add Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia. In every one of those states NOBODY won as much as 50% of that state's vote yet they all (some by force of unConstitutional state law) sent 100% of their vote to a single candidate. A candidate that that state quantifiably did not choose.

That dysfunction.

That's HALF the total needed to win the EC right there.

Eh?

Votes choose electors. Majority wins. 50% is not required.

I think you'll find that the definition of majority REQUIRES 50% plus one.
Go ahead, check me. I'll wait.

Not with more than two candidates.

Yep, with any number.

Wanna see?

majority
noun


ma·jor·i·ty | \ mə-ˈjȯr-ə-tē , -ˈjär- \
plural majorities
Definition of majority

1 a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
a majority of voters; a two-thirds majority

Besides which, we all know there are only effectively two on the ballot given the Duopoly. You get a choice of Bad or Worse. Nobody votes "for" Bad. They vote AGAINST "Worse".

Your arguments are becoming decidedly thin.

Don't they look great? I know, I tried to trim the fat. And they still work.

Thin as in addle-brained.

Hey, I don't write the dictionary. I just enforce it.

 

[White 6]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Opinion polls
Turnout	55.7%[1] 0.8 pp
Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Party Republican Democratic Home state New York New York Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine Electoral vote 304[a] 227[a] States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514 Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Agree to an extent. The media is overtly partisan. Why would the pollsters be any different? They are both more interested in shaping opinion than disseminating facts. You mean he cannot even hire internal pollster to make it come out his way?

Except the battleground polling was terrible. Nobody gives a shit about polling in NYC or LA. Hillary was supposed the win Pennsylvania by 8 points. WTF happened. It was off in every battleground state and was all biased for Hillary.

YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short | YouGov

Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states

today.yougov.com

Glad I wasn't stupid enough, or uncaring about bad character to vote for one of the two POS candidates in 2016. Trumpsters saved us from Hillary. Now Biden will have to save us from Trump. When both candidates deserve to lose, you stuck with a loser after the election and the whole country loses.

If you are able to be duped into thinking that Hillary Clinton is anything but a competent and devoted public servant, you are the kind of person who could be talked into just about anything.

Do you think she had people killed? Did she sell Uranium to Russia? Shit.

She sucked as much as trump and I knew it.

Sure ya did.

Vote Gary Johnson, the Libertarian guy. Figured if the country figured out how unfit the the two party ass-hats were, I could smoke a joint and blow it off for 4 years, since I was retired, and he would have been about as effective as Carter when he ran as an outsider, so he was treated like one.

You believe lies about Hillary Clinton to the point that you think she’s “as bad as Trump”. Like I said, you can probably be convinced of anything.

Well, I am not going to get drawn in to discussing the relative virtue of whores in a whorehouse such as the 2016 election. Doesn't matter.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Opinion polls
Turnout	55.7%[1] 0.8 pp
Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Party Republican Democratic Home state New York New York Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine Electoral vote 304[a] 227[a] States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514 Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Agree to an extent. The media is overtly partisan. Why would the pollsters be any different? They are both more interested in shaping opinion than disseminating facts. You mean he cannot even hire internal pollster to make it come out his way?

Except the battleground polling was terrible. Nobody gives a shit about polling in NYC or LA. Hillary was supposed the win Pennsylvania by 8 points. WTF happened. It was off in every battleground state and was all biased for Hillary.

YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short | YouGov

Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states

today.yougov.com

Glad I wasn't stupid enough, or uncaring about bad character to vote for one of the two POS candidates in 2016. Trumpsters saved us from Hillary. Now Biden will have to save us from Trump. When both candidates deserve to lose, you stuck with a loser after the election and the whole country loses.

If you are able to be duped into thinking that Hillary Clinton is anything but a competent and devoted public servant, you are the kind of person who could be talked into just about anything.

Do you think she had people killed? Did she sell Uranium to Russia? Shit.

She sucked as much as trump and I knew it.

Sure ya did.

Vote Gary Johnson, the Libertarian guy. Figured if the country figured out how unfit the the two party ass-hats were, I could smoke a joint and blow it off for 4 years, since I was retired, and he would have been about as effective as Carter when he ran as an outsider, so he was treated like one.

You believe lies about Hillary Clinton to the point that you think she’s “as bad as Trump”. Like I said, you can probably be convinced of anything.

Well, I am not going to get drawn in to discussing the relative virtue of whores in a whorehouse such as the 2016 election. Doesn't matter.

Good decision. It will spare you from demonstrating your gullible personality for all to see.

You gonna vote for Amash?

 

[White 6]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Opinion polls
Turnout	55.7%[1] 0.8 pp
Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Party Republican Democratic Home state New York New York Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine Electoral vote 304[a] 227[a] States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514 Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Agree to an extent. The media is overtly partisan. Why would the pollsters be any different? They are both more interested in shaping opinion than disseminating facts. You mean he cannot even hire internal pollster to make it come out his way?

Except the battleground polling was terrible. Nobody gives a shit about polling in NYC or LA. Hillary was supposed the win Pennsylvania by 8 points. WTF happened. It was off in every battleground state and was all biased for Hillary.

YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short | YouGov

Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states

today.yougov.com

Glad I wasn't stupid enough, or uncaring about bad character to vote for one of the two POS candidates in 2016. Trumpsters saved us from Hillary. Now Biden will have to save us from Trump. When both candidates deserve to lose, you stuck with a loser after the election and the whole country loses.

If you are able to be duped into thinking that Hillary Clinton is anything but a competent and devoted public servant, you are the kind of person who could be talked into just about anything.

Do you think she had people killed? Did she sell Uranium to Russia? Shit.

She sucked as much as trump and I knew it.

Sure ya did.

Vote Gary Johnson, the Libertarian guy. Figured if the country figured out how unfit the the two party ass-hats were, I could smoke a joint and blow it off for 4 years, since I was retired, and he would have been about as effective as Carter when he ran as an outsider, so he was treated like one.

You believe lies about Hillary Clinton to the point that you think she’s “as bad as Trump”. Like I said, you can probably be convinced of anything.

Well, I am not going to get drawn in to discussing the relative virtue of whores in a whorehouse such as the 2016 election. Doesn't matter.

Good decision. It will spare you from demonstrating your gullible personality for all to see.

You gonna vote for Amash?

Biden.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

538 members of the Electoral College 270 electoral votes needed to win
Opinion polls
Turnout	55.7%[1] 0.8 pp
Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Party Republican Democratic Home state New York New York Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine Electoral vote 304[a] 227[a] States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC Popular vote 62,984,828 65,853,514 Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Agree to an extent. The media is overtly partisan. Why would the pollsters be any different? They are both more interested in shaping opinion than disseminating facts. You mean he cannot even hire internal pollster to make it come out his way?

Except the battleground polling was terrible. Nobody gives a shit about polling in NYC or LA. Hillary was supposed the win Pennsylvania by 8 points. WTF happened. It was off in every battleground state and was all biased for Hillary.

YouGov’s final pre-election polls in Battleground states: Trump still coming up short | YouGov

Despite some gains, Trump is still short in key states

today.yougov.com

Glad I wasn't stupid enough, or uncaring about bad character to vote for one of the two POS candidates in 2016. Trumpsters saved us from Hillary. Now Biden will have to save us from Trump. When both candidates deserve to lose, you stuck with a loser after the election and the whole country loses.

If you are able to be duped into thinking that Hillary Clinton is anything but a competent and devoted public servant, you are the kind of person who could be talked into just about anything.

Do you think she had people killed? Did she sell Uranium to Russia? Shit.

She sucked as much as trump and I knew it.

Sure ya did.

Vote Gary Johnson, the Libertarian guy. Figured if the country figured out how unfit the the two party ass-hats were, I could smoke a joint and blow it off for 4 years, since I was retired, and he would have been about as effective as Carter when he ran as an outsider, so he was treated like one.

You believe lies about Hillary Clinton to the point that you think she’s “as bad as Trump”. Like I said, you can probably be convinced of anything.

Well, I am not going to get drawn in to discussing the relative virtue of whores in a whorehouse such as the 2016 election. Doesn't matter.

Good decision. It will spare you from demonstrating your gullible personality for all to see.

You gonna vote for Amash?

Biden.

That’s good to hear.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And if Biden wins little will change..

oh a great deal will change ! biden has moved so far to the left that calling him a socialist would be an accurate description ...the democratic party is now the socialist party of America .

Yet, which president just handed out 3 trillion dollars for free to businesses that claim that capitalism needs not live off of other people's money? And you want to claim that the Dem's are the only socialist in town...??

Yet, which president just handed out 3 trillion dollars for free to businesses that claim that capitalism needs not live off of other people's money?

What does a government shutdown of huge chunks of our economy have to do with capitalism?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.


Did she win as many electoral college votes as they predicted?

 

[yidnar]

And if Biden wins little will change..

oh a great deal will change ! biden has moved so far to the left that calling him a socialist would be an accurate description ...the democratic party is now the socialist party of America .

Yet, which president just handed out 3 trillion dollars for free to businesses that claim that capitalism needs not live off of other people's money? And you want to claim that the Dem's are the only socialist in town...??

yep thats exactly what i'm claiming ! trying to save the economy so people have a job to return to is not the government control over the private sector that the left wants .

 

[bluzman61]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Yep, and the ONLY reason the Hildebeast won the "popular vote" is because it's estimated she got at LEAST THREE MILLION ILLEGAL votes in the election, and some estimate that number to be as high as TEN MILLION.

 

[justinacolmena]

The polls aren't "broken". They are intentionally designed to tell lies.

It was never clear in the Bible whether David's son Absalom was getting a haircut at the barbershop or running for political office.

That said, in spite of their polls, I believe Trump will break the back of the Democrat Party on November 3rd.

The lie cannot be allowed to prevail over the truth. The continual progressive insurgency of Democrat violence must be fought down and suppressed again and again, in order that freedom might prevail.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bet you are not big on science or technology either.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.
So much for that idea.

Polls are science?

ROFLMAO! ! ! !

 

[Billiejeens]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

That's one that still doesn't understand how we elect Presidents of The US.
It's weird, but - he's not alone.

 

[rightwinger]

The polls aren't "broken". They are intentionally designed to tell lies.

That said, in spite of their polls, I believe Trump will break the back of the Democrat Party on November 3rd.

How Trump has broken the polls

All polls?

Even Fox and Rasmussen show Trump failing badly.
Trump is headed for an epic defeat and will bring his party down with him unless he reverses the trend.

 

[Billiejeens]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

Go ahead, check the numbers. Check any of my numbers. On anything. I get them straight before I post.

She lost the election she didn't beat him, just admit you were lying. I may as well slap you around further with facts, Hillary won by 4 million more votes in the single state of California. Trump whooped her ass by 1 million votes in the other 49 states. There now you have some numbers to chew on.

Or -
Simply take out LA County and NYC and Trump wins.
She was Really popular in those 2 small but highly concentrated areas -
Much, much less popular everywhere else in the country.

 

[rightwinger]

Polls are rigged to manipulate the masses...but no one is falling for it anymore. The poll bandwagon effect is dead. Nobody with a ounce of common sense believes for a second that Biden can beat Trump. That leaves two alternatives. The pollees are lying or the pollers are. My money is on the pollers.

Bet you are not big on science or technology either. If you are in a plane and that altimeter is unwinding while you are having a sinking feeling, you should probably pay no attention to the pilot if he whole plan is to cuss the gauge maker, and throw a hissy fit.

If polls were science...Hillary would be President.

So much for that idea.

Apparently they are, since she beat him by three million votes.

Liar, she lost and she lost huge Trump whooped her ass winning 30 states and over 300 EC votes.

That's one that still doesn't understand how we elect Presidents of The US.
It's weird, but - he's not alone.

Very true
But Trump is losing in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin and Arizona.......all states he won in 2016

Thats over 100 Electoral Votes

 

[Billiejeens]

Unfortunately for your fantasy we don't have elections via cherrypicking. I'm sure cherries are delicious and all but your logic here is full of fruit flies.

The fact remains, polling said Clinton would draw more fruit flies votes, and she did, although by the time the date was nearing it was too close to call, due to the dysfunction of the Electrical College. But you can't poll the EC.

Oh God the irony meter just broke. You said, "she beat him by three million votes" which is at best cherry picking and more akin to an outright lie. She didn't beat him at anything. No such popular vote election took place. No popular vote campaign strategy. No popular vote campaign ads. Nobody knows who may have won a popular vote election had one taken place.

4 years of explaining that whole concept has had exactly zero affect on them.