Huckabee:Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage

[Two Thumbs]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

I choose freedom, warts and all, b/c that's what our Founders intended.

 

[editec]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

Well then...perhaps they should start a third party.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the republican party will have to dump the evangelical low information voter they have depended on to win elections when their cheating in elections wasnt enough to win

The Republican party should lose the religious idiots and court the gay community. It actually makes total sense when you think about it as a lot of gays are conservatives at heart.

Oh there's good advice. Seeing as Christians make up the bulk of the republican party, and the TINY, maybe 3% of the worlds population that suffer from the mental illness called homosexuality.... yeah.... great advice.... IDIOT!

The only ones buying that CRAP are you libtards spreading it. The republican party has only one, period, ONE way to remain a viable force against liberals, and that's to stick to it's roots. If it doesn't, it will shatter into pieces and they won't win another election for decades, if ever again. Hard lesson to learn. They had ONE good showing in 2012, and that's because of the Tea Party, a very RELIGIOUS and CONSERVATIVE group. They LOSE elections when they start moving towards the left.

Huckabee is spot on.

The roots of the gop wasn't the RR, the RR took it over.

When the TP came out, it had nothing to do with the RR, but the RR infected it.

just like I knew they would, and is why I never joined.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

Well then...perhaps they should start a third party.

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Citizens Party of the United States 2004 New American Independent Party
Communist Party of the United States of America 1919 International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
Freedom Socialist Party 1966
Independence Party of America 2007
Independent American Party 1998
Justice Party 2011
Modern Whig Party 2008
National Socialist Movement 1974 World Union of National Socialists
Objectivist Party 2008
Party for Socialism and Liberation 2004
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Socialist Equality Party 1966 Workers League International Committee of the Fourth International
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Unity Party of America 2004
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I think we have enough

 

[rightwinger]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

Our country is more moral than at any time in its history

 

[rightwinger]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

I choose freedom, warts and all, b/c that's what our Founders intended.

God bless America!

 

[midcan5]

"'Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.' And they marveled at him." Mark 12:17

I'm waiting for that magical politician / religious who can separate ideas that should be separate. How is it that secular ideas and religious ideas came to be related and irreconcilable? Marriage exists on several levels and in a civil society should be seen that way. Religions can simply say they believe marriage is the traditional form while at the same time recognizing marriage as a civil right is a sanction of society. Why create a conflict that has no solution. Ideas march on.

The Meaning of Same-Sex Marriage - NYTimes.com

"Abraham had two wives, Sarah and her handmaiden Hagar. King Solomon had 700 wives, plus 300 concubines and slaves. Jacob, the patriarch who gives Israel its name, had two wives and two concubines. In a humanist vein, Exodus 21:10 warns that when men take additional wives, they must still provide for their previous one. (Exodus 21:16 adds that if a man seduces a virgin and has sex with her, he has to marry her, too.)"
Traditional Marriage: One Man, Many Women, Some Girls, Some Slaves | Sexuality/Gender | Religion Dispatches

Gay Marriage: The Arguments and the Motives

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[Two Thumbs]

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

I choose freedom, warts and all, b/c that's what our Founders intended.

God bless America!

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[Wicked Jester]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

Our country is more moral than at any time in its history

As if we needed any more proof, beyond what we already have, to see just how firmly your head is planted up your ass.

 

[PratchettFan]

Huckabee: Evangelicals Will Walk if GOP Backs Gay Marriage


Mike Huckabee warns that Republicans risk losing the vote from evangelical Christians if they back away from their opposition to gay marriage.

Last week, Ohio Sen. Bob Portman announced he has reversed his position and now supports gay marriage.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV, former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee — and ordained Southern Baptist minister — was asked if he sees the GOP ever pivoting and backing gay marriage.

“They might. And if they do, they’re going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk,” he responds.



Good
Riddance.

You won't be missed and maybe, just maybe the GOP can get back to the Constitution without them.

I hope he's right. If the republican party can actually get back to its conservative roots, I can get back to the party. Getting the evangelicals out would be an excellent start.

The real problem is that they make up too damn much of the base that decides the primaries. It is the primaries that kill the right because the zealot’s voice is magnified. Perhaps opening up the primaries like the dems do would be a good idea, get more moderates to vote. The only problem I have is that I don’t want democrats taking over the Republican Party (or moderate republicans for that matter). I want TRUE republicans that are not following religious dogma in place of smaller government and freedom.

Exactly. I wouldn't mind going back to having the decision made at the convention. These massive pre-election elections are expensive, devisive and destructive to the process.

 

[rightwinger]

And, Huckabee may be right.

But, the real question is, what about all of us conservatives who are not evangelicals, the majority of conservatives, who do not base their opposition to gay marriage based on religious grounds... Are we supposed to cave in just to appease certain groups for votes, at the expense of further eroding morals in this country?

Fuck that!

Our country is more moral than at any time in its history

As if we needed any more proof, beyond what we already have, to see just how firmly your head is planted up your ass.

You are welcome to point out any point in our history when our nation was more moral than it is today

Since you can't.....it is obvious whose head is planted up their ass

 

[JoeB131]

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out, Huckabee.

Here's the thing. I've always kind of liked Huckabee. I think he was a Christian who got it that the central message of Jesus was not "Tax Cuts for Rich People". He was down with the working class and the poor.

Part of that involved some really bad judgment, like paroling anyone who said "Jesus" sincerely enough.

The question is, if the GOP Establishment decides to stop talking about abortion and gay marriage and just focuses on it's core economic message, which is that you working ingrates just don't appreciate the wealthy enough, are they really going to get that many votes?

 

[PratchettFan]

He's right.

Evangelicals are killing the party

In other words, you think the Republican Party would be best served if it just one day lost all it's morals and became like the Demokkkratt party?

That has already happened.

 

[Truthmatters]

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out, Huckabee.

Here's the thing. I've always kind of liked Huckabee. I think he was a Christian who got it that the central message of Jesus was not "Tax Cuts for Rich People". He was down with the working class and the poor.

Part of that involved some really bad judgment, like paroling anyone who said "Jesus" sincerely enough.

The question is, if the GOP Establishment decides to stop talking about abortion and gay marriage and just focuses on it's core economic message, which is that you working ingrates just don't appreciate the wealthy enough, are they really going to get that many votes?

thata is why they have been cheating for decades.

their message doesnt sell well

 

[SinJinsg]

No, it’s where conservatives were on the wrong side of history with regard to privacy rights during the 70s, and on the wrong side of history with regard to voting rights during the 60s, and on the wrong side of history with regard to civil rights during the 50s – conservatives fought to preserve segregation, they fought against civil rights and voting rights, they fought to disallow blacks and whites to marry, and they fought against the privacy rights of women.

And in classic conservative tradition, they fight against the equal protection rights of same-sex couples, on the wrong side of history – again.

More revisionist history. First of all, there was never a fight over "privacy" in the 70s, it was a fight to legalize abortion. Nothing more. And it was the Democrats who were pushing segregation and Jim Crow laws. You honestly don't have a clue what you are talking about.

And gay marriage has NOTHING to do with civil rights. Homosexuality is a choice and sexual perversion. It is not something a person is born with like the color of their skin.

People aren't born a specific religion or with guns in their hands. Does that mean there shouldn't be gun rights and religious freedom?

No, they aren't. But they are born with the right to defend themselves and choose whatever religion they want. There is no such natural right to gay marriage.

 

[SinJinsg]

So you're not religious, you just plain don't like gay people eh?

Noooo, it's not about not liking gay people.....I don't give a shit what they do behind closed doors....As long as it's not an illegal perversion that harms other people, they can be as perverse as they wish.

But, that does not mean that their perversions should be recognized under marriage.

And, it's not that i'm not religious, i'm Lutheran, but don't feel the need to go to church every week to reaffirm my beliefs....My opposition to gay marriage has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with basic morals, and the continuing erosion of such in this country, nothing more.

Oh... there's your problem.

I see. You are nothing but just another common religious bigot. That explains much.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Democrats have always been the party of slavery and segregation. Who do you think ran the South for all those years? And nothing has changed. The Dems STILL demand the black population serve them on the Democrat plantation. None are allowed to leave.

Where do conservatives come up with this silly bullshit?

Dude, what party do you think the Confederates were? What party was Bull Conner? Now, what party was Lincoln? A higher percentage of GOP voted for the Civil Rights Bill than did a percent of Dems. Just how illiterate of history are you?

It's 2013, not 1863.

Try again.

 

[FA_Q2]

Oh there's good advice. Seeing as Christians make up the bulk of the republican party, and the TINY, maybe 3% of the worlds population that suffer from the mental illness called homosexuality.... yeah.... great advice.... IDIOT!

The only ones buying that CRAP are you libtards spreading it. The republican party has only one, period, ONE way to remain a viable force against liberals, and that's to stick to it's roots. If it doesn't, it will shatter into pieces and they won't win another election for decades, if ever again. Hard lesson to learn. They had ONE good showing in 2012, and that's because of the Tea Party, a very RELIGIOUS and CONSERVATIVE group. They LOSE elections when they start moving towards the left.

Huckabee is spot on.

yes which points out just how doomed your party is.

they can not win without these voters or with them

Once again, you highlight your STUPIDITY for the entire board to see. Republicans kicked your liberal asses up one side and down the other in 2012, and that is BECAUSE the CONSERVATIVE base was energized BECAUSE of the TEA PARTY! So, IDIOT, YES, republicans CAN win elections, BIG, but they won't do it if they move to the left. They know this. The evidence is there. Stick to Christian, conservative plaforms = win elections. Move to the left = LOSE elections... just ask Romney. He backed off going after obama aggressively, conservatives lost interest and stayed home, he lost the election. Republicans better get that through their heads. They keep up this leftist agenda move and they're fucked, period, and that includes homos wanting to bastardize marriage.

Well, no. You are only half correct.

Moving left = lose elections. That is definitely correct BUT moving socially religious ALSO = lose elections. Right does not equal grater governmental control to make us all good little Christians. That is actually completely counter to what the right believes in: smaller government and greater freedom. THAT is what wins elections. It is what the tea party was meant to stand for. Not gay marriage or abortion bullshit and that is what needs to be dropped. Go live morally as your God commanded BUT do not try and get government involved in that process, that is not governments place.

Remember: if government can enforce Christian ideology, it can enforce Islamic ideology to. Just get the government out of that business and the voters will return. The right is making a GOOD decision by dropping the gay issue – it will regain those that have left but are fiscal and regulatory conservatives.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Progressives CREATED Segregation. It was Woodrow Wilson that Re-segregated the military.

The conservatives segregated the South after 1877. Harry Truman began the integration of the military and the progressive Eisenhower completed the practice.

 

[007]

The Republican party should lose the religious idiots and court the gay community. It actually makes total sense when you think about it as a lot of gays are conservatives at heart.

Oh there's good advice. Seeing as Christians make up the bulk of the republican party, and the TINY, maybe 3% of the worlds population that suffer from the mental illness called homosexuality.... yeah.... great advice.... IDIOT!

The only ones buying that CRAP are you libtards spreading it. The republican party has only one, period, ONE way to remain a viable force against liberals, and that's to stick to it's roots. If it doesn't, it will shatter into pieces and they won't win another election for decades, if ever again. Hard lesson to learn. They had ONE good showing in 2012, and that's because of the Tea Party, a very RELIGIOUS and CONSERVATIVE group. They LOSE elections when they start moving towards the left.

Huckabee is spot on.

The roots of the gop wasn't the RR, the RR took it over.

When the TP came out, it had nothing to do with the RR, but the RR infected it.

just like I knew they would, and is why I never joined.

The roots of the republican party were based on Christian values, morals, ethics and standards. Lincoln, a republican, freed the slaves because it was the Christian thing to do... "all men are created equal." If a republican starts supporting an immoral leftist position of bastardizing holy matrimony by allowing perverted homos to marry, he can kiss his conservative, Christian base goodbye.

You may not have ever joined, but then you sound young. I remember much longer ago, and people like you would have been democrats.