"I Had an Abortion"

[C_Clayton_Jones]

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I have provided you the FEDERAL STATUTE NAME which states that the unborn baby IS a person and murder of that baby is going to be prosecuted.
As it is right now in Florida with a guy who provoked a death of his baby in utero of his girlfriend by tricking her into taking some very specific pills.

And this law is not going away anywhere.
It is a base and the bridge.

No matter how annoying it is to you - but deep inside you know perfectly well that both medicine, science and human nature is against your barbaric clench over will to murder.

Again, the minute you "bridge" that into trying to prosecute a woman for ending an unwanted pregnancy is the day those laws are done.

Reality- women have had abortions since Roman times.

They will always be able to get them.

Particularly now that you can simply take a pill.

no, they won't. and a woman will be prosecuted. as she should be.
especially in the times when preventing the pregnancy is easiest than ever.
Murder of the innocents - and that is what abortion is - and everybody, including abortion nazis know that - should be prosecuted and will be.
Just takes time.
Killing a black man was not a crime not a very long time ago.
Killing a woman and a child was not a crime before that.

It changed. And so will change the approach to murder of children in utero.

Yes, they will.

If you want to ensure the practice of abortion continues, go ahead and ‘ban’ it.

And have you ever comprehensively examined the idiocy of your position?

You’re actually willing the fill the courts and prisons with women who’ve committed no ‘crime,’ save that of deciding whether or not to bear a child, a right guaranteed her by the Constitution.

For example, what of women imprisoned for the ‘crime’ of ‘attempted abortion,’ obviously you realize that once born, the child must be placed in foster care, further overwhelming an already compromised system. And the child will be forced to remain in foster care for its entire childhood, or until adopted, assuming the mother sustains a lengthy prison stay as a consequence of her ‘crime.’

Given these and other facts, the conservative position of ‘banning’ abortion is clearly untenable, even with Constitutional ramifications notwithstanding.

Instead of hyperbole, hysteria, and demagoguery from the right concerning the issue, a factual, pragmatic approach is the only viable solution.

 

[Vox]

No, they won't.

and they will be the bridge for the potential reversal of the idiocy about privacy, when it is a murder.

let the demographic pressure kick in - and all you leftard will start to sing the other way around, as the agenda will be - we need more people

just takes time and some environmental changes - but those are inevitable

 

[Vox]

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you, moron, where did I ever connected murder of the baby to religion? I even asked someone from my side not to mention it as the religious aspect of the issue is absolutly separate one.

But the murderous liars like yourself think only about their own prejudicies and obsessions.

I get it - you have no problem with a 40 yo raping a 13 yo child and murdering the baby in utero - for your convenience.

No, I have no problem with someone walking away from a sham conviction because a judge wanted to get a celebrity scalp.

What does RELIGION have to do with it?

You mean other than you trying to impose your religion on other people?



That's a RELIGIOUS opinion, not a scientific or legal one. It's also one most people don't agree with.

you idiot, baby in utero is a scientific opinion not a religious one. life starts at conception - as the zygote starts to divide - that is a medical FACT not a religious belief.

upgrade your biology as you clearly haven't heard anything for the last 45 years

 

[JoeB131]

No, they won't.

and they will be the bridge for the potential reversal of the idiocy about privacy, when it is a murder.

let the demographic pressure kick in - and all you leftard will start to sing the other way around, as the agenda will be - we need more people

just takes time and some environmental changes - but those are inevitable

NOt really.

The problem is, we don't have enough work for the people who want to work now....

Point is, women will still end unwanted pregnancies. And the day you ever get some young woman in the dock will be the day people rise up against you.

 

[JoeB131]

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you idiot, baby in utero is a scientific opinion not a religious one. life starts at conception - as the zygote starts to divide - that is a medical FACT not a religious belief.

upgrade your biology as you clearly haven't heard anything for the last 45 years

Life began 4 billion years ago.

And is an ongoing process.

Still doesn't make zygotes into people.

Which is why we don't have funerals over tampons.

 

[Vox]

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you idiot, baby in utero is a scientific opinion not a religious one. life starts at conception - as the zygote starts to divide - that is a medical FACT not a religious belief.

upgrade your biology as you clearly haven't heard anything for the last 45 years

Life began 4 billion years ago.

And is an ongoing process.

Still doesn't make zygotes into people.

Which is why we don't have funerals over tampons.

human life begins when zygote starts dividing. Period. It is a medical fact. deal with it.

 

[Vox]

No, they won't.

and they will be the bridge for the potential reversal of the idiocy about privacy, when it is a murder.

let the demographic pressure kick in - and all you leftard will start to sing the other way around, as the agenda will be - we need more people

just takes time and some environmental changes - but those are inevitable

NOt really.

The problem is, we don't have enough work for the people who want to work now....

Point is, women will still end unwanted pregnancies. And the day you ever get some young woman in the dock will be the day people rise up against you.

that is debatable.
and what will woman do when abortion will be a crime is going to be their choice to take the risk as any criminal does attempting murder.
tuff, but fair.

 

[Zoom-boing]

We are talking about all fetus's, not just one fetus.

What makes one fetus (Lacy Peterson's fetus was considered a legal person) a legal person and another fetus not a legal person?

I think that charging someone for murdering a person that a birth certificate was never issued for is silly, but this is politics, not reason.

The problem is of course, that no one has sympathy for guys who assault or murder pregnant women.

So the camel's nose is under the tent.

Thank you for finally admitting that a fetus is a person. Knew you could do it.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[Katzndogz]

In the entire world only four countries consider that a baby is not a human being after 12 weeks gestation. They are all hard left. The US is one of them. In times to come when sanity returns, this will be an example of a national holocaust.

 

[koshergrl]

Yes it will.

And the people responsible will be held accountable.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In the entire world only four countries consider that a baby is not a human being after 12 weeks gestation. They are all hard left. The US is one of them. In times to come when sanity returns, this will be an example of a national holocaust.

Incorrect.

The United States wisely and appropriate allows each individual to decide for himself when human life begins and to act accordingly in good faith and in good conscience, free from interference by the state.

It is not the place of government to dictate to citizens what they must or must not believe concerning when human life begins, nor may the state interfere with decisions both personal and private as to whether or not to have a child.

We are indeed fortunate to live in a great Nation whose government respects the privacy rights of the individual.

And those who believe human life begins at conception and abortion to be wrong are at liberty in our great Nation to pursue solutions with the intent of ending the practice of abortion, save that of violating the civil liberties of other citizens.

 

[koshergrl]

"
Karl Brandt (January 8, 1904 – June 2, 1948) was a German Nazi war criminal. He rose to the rank of SS-Gruppenführer in the Allgemeine-SS and SS-Brigadeführer in the Waffen-SS. Among other positions, Brandt headed the administration of the Nazi euthanasia program from 1939 onwards and was selected as Adolf Hitler's personal physician in August 1934. In 1942, he became Reich Commissioner for Health and Sanitation. He was involved in criminal human experimentation, along with his deputy Werner Heyde and others. After World War II, Brandt was convicted of crimes against humanity. He was hanged on June 2, 1948.[1]

"Brandt's medical ethics, particularly regarding euthanasia, were influenced by Alfred Hoche whose courses he attended. Like many other German doctors of the period, Brandt came to believe that the health of society as a whole should take precedence over that of its individual members. Society being viewed as an organism that should be cured, its weakest, most invalid and incurable members were parts that had to be removed."

"Also planning and performing the mass murder of prisoners of war and civilians of occupied countries, stigmatized as aged, insane, incurably ill, deformed, and so on, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums during the Euthanasia Program and participating in the mass murder of concentration camp inmates;"
Karl Brandt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[koshergrl]

"
Karl Brandt (January 8, 1904 – June 2, 1948) was a German Nazi war criminal. He rose to the rank of SS-Gruppenführer in the Allgemeine-SS and SS-Brigadeführer in the Waffen-SS. Among other positions, Brandt headed the administration of the Nazi euthanasia program from 1939 onwards and was selected as Adolf Hitler's personal physician in August 1934. In 1942, he became Reich Commissioner for Health and Sanitation. He was involved in criminal human experimentation, along with his deputy Werner Heyde and others. After World War II, Brandt was convicted of crimes against humanity. He was hanged on June 2, 1948.[1]"

"Cause of death, Execution by Hanging ... Karl Brandt (January 8, 1904 – June 2,
1948) was a German Nazi war criminal. ... one of the medical scientists who
performed abortions in great numbers on women deemed genetically disordered"

"Brandt's medical ethics, particularly regarding euthanasia, were influenced by Alfred Hoche whose courses he attended. Like many other German doctors of the period, Brandt came to believe that the health of society as a whole should take precedence over that of its individual members. Society being viewed as an organism that should be cured, its weakest, most invalid and incurable members were parts that had to be removed."

"Also planning and performing the mass murder of prisoners of war and civilians of occupied countries, stigmatized as aged, insane, incurably ill, deformed, and so on, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums during the Euthanasia Program and participating in the mass murder of concentration camp inmates;"
Karl Brandt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BDBoop]

In the entire world only four countries consider that a baby is not a human being after 12 weeks gestation. They are all hard left. The US is one of them. In times to come when sanity returns, this will be an example of a national holocaust.

Incorrect.

The United States wisely and appropriate allows each individual to decide for himself when human life begins and to act accordingly in good faith and in good conscience, free from interference by the state.

It is not the place of government to dictate to citizens what they must or must not believe concerning when human life begins, nor may the state interfere with decisions both personal and private as to whether or not to have a child.

We are indeed fortunate to live in a great Nation whose government respects the privacy rights of the individual.

And those who believe human life begins at conception and abortion to be wrong are at liberty in our great Nation to pursue solutions with the intent of ending the practice of abortion, save that of violating the civil liberties of other citizens.

This thread is a clear example of why logic cannot defeat faith - and why this is, therefore, not a country built on faith.

We are a nation of thinkers, or at least we were meant to be.

 

[Noomi]

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you, moron, where did I ever connected murder of the baby to religion? I even asked someone from my side not to mention it as the religious aspect of the issue is absolutly separate one.

But the murderous liars like yourself think only about their own prejudicies and obsessions.

I get it - you have no problem with a 40 yo raping a 13 yo child and murdering the baby in utero - for your convenience.

No, I have no problem with someone walking away from a sham conviction because a judge wanted to get a celebrity scalp.

What does RELIGION have to do with it?

You mean other than you trying to impose your religion on other people?



That's a RELIGIOUS opinion, not a scientific or legal one. It's also one most people don't agree with.

you idiot, baby in utero is a scientific opinion not a religious one. life starts at conception - as the zygote starts to divide - that is a medical FACT not a religious belief.

upgrade your biology as you clearly haven't heard anything for the last 45 years

Life might begin at conception but personhood begins at birth.

 

[Noomi]

"
Karl Brandt (January 8, 1904 – June 2, 1948) was a German Nazi war criminal. He rose to the rank of SS-Gruppenführer in the Allgemeine-SS and SS-Brigadeführer in the Waffen-SS. Among other positions, Brandt headed the administration of the Nazi euthanasia program from 1939 onwards and was selected as Adolf Hitler's personal physician in August 1934. In 1942, he became Reich Commissioner for Health and Sanitation. He was involved in criminal human experimentation, along with his deputy Werner Heyde and others. After World War II, Brandt was convicted of crimes against humanity. He was hanged on June 2, 1948.[1]"

"Cause of death, Execution by Hanging ... Karl Brandt (January 8, 1904 – June 2,
1948) was a German Nazi war criminal. ... one of the medical scientists who
performed abortions in great numbers on women deemed genetically disordered"

"Brandt's medical ethics, particularly regarding euthanasia, were influenced by Alfred Hoche whose courses he attended. Like many other German doctors of the period, Brandt came to believe that the health of society as a whole should take precedence over that of its individual members. Society being viewed as an organism that should be cured, its weakest, most invalid and incurable members were parts that had to be removed."

"Also planning and performing the mass murder of prisoners of war and civilians of occupied countries, stigmatized as aged, insane, incurably ill, deformed, and so on, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums during the Euthanasia Program and participating in the mass murder of concentration camp inmates;"
Karl Brandt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What does abortion have to do with the Nazi Regime?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Actually, it is a good study on the potential abusive power of any CPE
Nothing is sacred with statism, including the womb.

 

[PixieStix]

Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood, the leading organization advocating abortion in the United States today. Darwinism had a profound influence on her thinking, including her conversion to, and active support of, eugenics. She was specifically concerned with reducing the population of the ‘less fit’, including ‘inferior races’ such as ‘Negroes’. One major result of her lifelong work was to support the sexual revolution that has radically changed our society.


‘The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development, has so little sexual control that police authority alone prevents him from obtaining sexual satisfaction on the streets. According to one writer, the rapist has just enough brain development to raise him above the animal, but like the animal, when in heat, knows no law except nature, which impels him to procreate, whatever the result.’ ~Margaret Sanger~

Margaret Sanger is Noomi's hero

 

[Neotrotsky]

Oh great

now all the reactionary left are going to come out of the woodwork to
defend this 'eugenicist' by trying to deny or downplay her past


They have to because Planned Parenthood gives out some crappy award with
her name attached- therefore she must be good.

It is funny how they will knee jerk defend her without knowing her past

‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’
so true

 

[Noomi]

Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood, the leading organization advocating abortion in the United States today. Darwinism had a profound influence on her thinking, including her conversion to, and active support of, eugenics. She was specifically concerned with reducing the population of the ‘less fit’, including ‘inferior races’ such as ‘Negroes’. One major result of her lifelong work was to support the sexual revolution that has radically changed our society.


‘The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development, has so little sexual control that police authority alone prevents him from obtaining sexual satisfaction on the streets. According to one writer, the rapist has just enough brain development to raise him above the animal, but like the animal, when in heat, knows no law except nature, which impels him to procreate, whatever the result.’ ~Margaret Sanger~

Margaret Sanger is Noomi's hero

Blah blah blah.