I have a problem with some of the rhetoric the left uses when talking about the wall

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Doesn’t matter

We will tear down the wall once Trump is gone

Mexico may even pay for it

Bet you don't

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

No, walls don't work, just ask the folks in Berlin.

You also miss the point, the wall is a shameful symbol of rightwing bigotry and hate.

 

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Like that wall France built in the lead up to WWII. Worked great.

An incomplete wall is useless. France learned it in WWII and you're learning it now.

 

[Confounding]

Like that wall France built in the lead up to WWII. Worked great.

Do you really think this is a reasonable comparison?

 

[Thinker101]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

No, walls don't work, just ask the folks in Berlin.

You also miss the point, the wall is a shameful symbol of rightwing bigotry and hate.

So tell us. How many illegals are you sharing your house with? Just so we know you aren't bigoted and hateful.

 

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

No, walls don't work, just ask the folks in Berlin.

You also miss the point, the wall is a shameful symbol of rightwing bigotry and hate.

Governments have a responsibility to provide security, along with economic and social stability for their citizens. Without border control, there would be mass immigration, which would lead to major job losses and economic instability, as well as excessive burdens on the state’s infrastructure and public services. In other words, without border control, there would be chaos.. A nation that cannot protect its borders will cease to be a nation.

 

[Confounding]

No, walls don't work, just ask the folks in Berlin.

It may have been wrong, but the Berlin Wall did exactly what it was intended to do.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

The wall won’t be built. If somehow part of it gets completed, the next President will run on tearing it down.

It’s a complete waste of money and a symbol of cowardice

cowardice? How so?

Bigots and racists are fundamentally cowards.

 

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

The wall won’t be built. If somehow part of it gets completed, the next President will run on tearing it down.

It’s a complete waste of money and a symbol of cowardice

cowardice? How so?

Bigots and racists are fundamentally cowards.

So, when you fence in your backyard, you are showing you're a bigot and racist?

 

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

The wall won’t be built. If somehow part of it gets completed, the next President will run on tearing it down.

It’s a complete waste of money and a symbol of cowardice

cowardice? How so?

Bigots and racists are fundamentally cowards.

And, taking it to its logical next step, are you a bigotted and racist coward if you lock your doors at night? How about locking the doors to your car as you drive?

 

[bripat9643]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Like that wall France built in the lead up to WWII. Worked great.

It wasn't a wall, dumbass, and the border wall doesn't have to stop tanks and Stuka dive bombers.

Numerous examples of walls that cut border crossing by 99% have been posted in this forum.

You aren't fooling anyone with your bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

The wall won’t be built. If somehow part of it gets completed, the next President will run on tearing it down.

It’s a complete waste of money and a symbol of cowardice

cowardice? How so?

Bigots and racists are fundamentally cowards.

So, when you fence in your backyard, you are showing you're a bigot and racist?

He's also insulting his neighbors.

 

[Confounding]

lock your doors at night?

Why would I do that when somebody could just break my door down with a battering ram? They could also just dig a tunnel and break in through the floor.

 

[bripat9643]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

No, walls don't work, just ask the folks in Berlin.

You also miss the point, the wall is a shameful symbol of rightwing bigotry and hate.

Hmmm, the Berlin wall worked fabulously well. How many East Germans crossed to te West after it was built?

Yeah, anyone who doesn't want their country flooded with low wage labor is a bigot.

Go fuck yourself, asshole.

You people are unbelievably stupid.

 

[hunarcy]

lock your doors at night?

Why would I do that when somebody could just break my door down with a battering ram? They could also just dig a tunnel and break in through the floor.

True. But, why make it easy on them? (Same things bankers say about their vaults.)

 

[rightwinger]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Doesn’t matter

We will tear down the wall once Trump is gone

Mexico may even pay for it

Sure you will.

Believe me

We will create a big pile of rubble, a big, beautiful pile of rubble

 

[bripat9643]

lock your doors at night?

Why would I do that when somebody could just break my door down with a battering ram? They could also just dig a tunnel and break in through the floor.

True. But, why make it easy on them? (Same things bankers say about their vaults.)

He was being facetious.

 

[bripat9643]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Doesn’t matter

We will tear down the wall once Trump is gone

Mexico may even pay for it

Sure you will.

Believe me

We will create a big pile of rubble, a big, beautiful pile of rubble

Destroying government property is a crime, asshole. Furthermore, I'll be there with my AR-15 to make sure you don't.

 

[hunarcy]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Doesn’t matter

We will tear down the wall once Trump is gone

Mexico may even pay for it

Sure you will.

Believe me

We will create a big pile of rubble, a big, beautiful pile of rubble

LOL! You? I doubt if you'd ever work up that sort of sweat.

 

[bripat9643]

So when talking about the wall the left likes to imply that it won't serve any practical purpose. "People will dig under it, climb over it, fly over it and some of them will even blah blah blah..."

Yes, you are correct that a wall won't be an absolute solution to the problem of illegals crossing the border, but it's outright dishonest to say it won't at least be a powerful deterrent. It won't stop all of them, but it will stop some or many of them. Walls work, and there are a lot of modern examples that demonstrate that truth.

Doesn’t matter

We will tear down the wall once Trump is gone

Mexico may even pay for it

Sure you will.

Believe me

We will create a big pile of rubble, a big, beautiful pile of rubble

LOL! You? I doubt if you'd ever work up that sort of sweat.

You gotta laugh when Rightwinger says "believe me."