If banning rifles is a winner for democrats, why do they want to hide it from voters?

[skookerasbil]

You are an unserious person...... you can't lie anymore, your buddies shouted they plan on banning semi automatic weapons at the CNN town hall, at the School walk outs and the rallies held across the country... they stopped lying and stated the real agenda...

Oh, I see. Someone says that they want to ban the AR and it's various incarnations and you think they mean ALL semi auto weapons. Sorry to bust your bubble but the courts don't see it your way and neither does most of the public. It's legal to ban a specific weapon by name without banning the entire class of firearms. You can read into it to try and further your lie but in the end, you are a liar trying to sensationalize a lie. Stop making shit up.

Oy.....what a dolt.

Nobody is complying with these "assault" weapon bans where it's been done in some states. And the same weapons are available without the scary features!!

Oh and the courts are about to become a graveyard for the gun grabbers

The same debate was done in the early 30s over the Thompson. You think you are being original? The only difference is, you have the internet to spout off in. There were also thousands of Sten Guns in the general population as well plus a number of other brand new SMGs. There was quite a debate on how to handle it. What they came up with is one of attrition. They went after one specific weapon, the light machine gun. Not the other brand new just coming onto the market semi auto sport rifles. They didn't go house to house looking for them. The banned the manufacture for civilians of the weapons, parts and support. They banned the transfer of the weapons from one private person to another without both having a valid FFL License. And as the Criminals were apprehended with them, they gathered the weapons up and destroyed them. It took about 10 years to get them off the streets and into the collectors hands. Meanwhile, the Military and Government Agencies were still able to buy new Thompsons. This is how it's done. Our older generation ain't so stupid afterall but you are. Now stop making shit up.

Meh

In a number of states they banned "assault" weapons like the AK47 with a pistol grip and suppressor. So manufacturers developed models without those features. In fact, I got one in 7.62x39.....no pistol grip. Big shit! Same with AR models.....can still get 'em anywhere sans the "ASSault" features. Same hellacious firepower ftmfw while goofball progressives take bows when a feature is removed from a weapon.

Make sure that it doesn't have pica tinny rails... they make the gun much 'assaultier'...

OMG you're not kidding. My liberal neighbor saw a red dot scope on my Saiga and came over.....thought it was a granade launcher....he was aghast! Progressives don't understand that gun owners have no tolerance for these people. None.

 

[skookerasbil]

Been watching gun grabber rants for 10 years in here. They get all giddy when a debate gets going in a thread. All emotional. But nothing ever changes nor will it. Frankly, it's a lot of wasted breath and energy. .... funny as shit though.

 

[Sahba]

I don't give a flying or any other kid of FUCK who you would vote for

The fact is that there are people in this country today calling for gun bans and the repeal of the Second

Deny that and be labeled a fucking liar

List them. All of them. Just sit and compile a list of them.

That should keep you out of trouble for a bit.

Fucking idiot

Repeal the Second Amendment — it’s not a crazy idea

Repealing the Second Amendment isn't easy but it's what March for Our Lives students need

Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment – Rolling Stone

Opinion | To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment

Gee that took all of .42 seconds to find

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

You don’t get to say what firearms are banned... You have no credibility on the subject. You being an anti-gun Nutter...

I get to say with my vote. And I have had a pretty good run of luck with that in this state even with the underhanded tactics that has tried to take away the right of the vote here. In the end, all laws that were passed still stand. And more states are headed in this same direction. Our Columbine and Aurora Shootings caused people to say, enough. Now, many of the cities are looking to pass laws to completely ban the AR-15 specifically. And that IS within the Constitution and has been upheld in the Federal Courts. Yah, Yah, I know, your new guy will change all that. Don't count on it. Unless he is willing to rewrite the US Constitution and the State Constitutions while he is at it and that is not the job of the Courts.

"Common" & "Carry"... as in "Common Carry"...

 

[skookerasbil]

A granade launcher ....probably my favorite story to tell in dead air moments.

 

[Rustic]

I don't give a flying or any other kid of FUCK who you would vote for

The fact is that there are people in this country today calling for gun bans and the repeal of the Second

Deny that and be labeled a fucking liar

List them. All of them. Just sit and compile a list of them.

That should keep you out of trouble for a bit.

Fucking idiot

Repeal the Second Amendment — it’s not a crazy idea

Repealing the Second Amendment isn't easy but it's what March for Our Lives students need

Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment – Rolling Stone

Opinion | To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment

Gee that took all of .42 seconds to find

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

You don’t get to say what firearms are banned... You have no credibility on the subject. You being an anti-gun Nutter...

I get to say with my vote. And I have had a pretty good run of luck with that in this state even with the underhanded tactics that has tried to take away the right of the vote here. In the end, all laws that were passed still stand. And more states are headed in this same direction. Our Columbine and Aurora Shootings caused people to say, enough. Now, many of the cities are looking to pass laws to completely ban the AR-15 specifically. And that IS within the Constitution and has been upheld in the Federal Courts. Yah, Yah, I know, your new guy will change all that. Don't count on it. Unless he is willing to rewrite the US Constitution and the State Constitutions while he is at it and that is not the job of the Courts.

Urban America and Rural America in no way share the same interests, AR15s are not a threat to rural America... in fact more firearms and ammo are in the best interest of Rural America.

 

[Rustic]

Fucking idiot

Repeal the Second Amendment — it’s not a crazy idea

Repealing the Second Amendment isn't easy but it's what March for Our Lives students need

Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment – Rolling Stone

Opinion | To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment

Gee that took all of .42 seconds to find

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

You don’t get to tell other people what they should have for firearm ownership, an ar15 is nothing more, nothing less than a sporting rifle.
They are the best varmint rifles ever made, prairie dogs a plague for ranchers/farmers owe a ton to the ar platform. You obviously never went varmint hunting, it’s all about shooting as many as possible.

 

[Rustic]

With the focus on recycling and all, I'd be willing to relinquish some of my AR-10's and 15's in to the US Military if they would have them... The thing is though, they aren't 'Military" grade weapons and no "assault" would ever be conducted by the US Military with these grade weapons... Facts are Facts, beotches... U don't get it both ways!

Actually, the AR-10 would be considered Military Grade. In order to have that distinction, only two companies can place that stamp on their civilian versions. And that is Colt and FN. I don't know if that is a law but it's the accepted way. If any company puts a "Military Grade" on any component then they will have to have purchased that component from either of those two companies. I don't know who made your AR-10 but if it was Colt or Armalite then it will be considered Military Grade. As for the AR-15, the only state side Military Grade AR-15 is made by Colt and it's made primarily for government agencies (not military) and police forces. But the do offer it for civilian sales.

If they do ban the AR, I don't see them going house to house for them. Like the Thompson, they outlaw their manufacture, manufacture of the parts for manufacture and repair, ban the transfer of the weapon by any two people without FFL Licenses. It takes about 10 years and they are essentially gone from the public. These same arguments were done in the early 30s. This isn't anything new. And these are the solutions they came up with and it worked. In otherwords, if you own it, you still have it. But when it wears out, you can't have it fixed or buy parts to do it yourself. You can't transfer it even in your estate. That 5 million ARs are gone within one generation.

There is no reason to ban the ar15/10 sporting rifle because it leads to banning all sporting rifles.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Fucking idiot

Repeal the Second Amendment — it’s not a crazy idea

Repealing the Second Amendment isn't easy but it's what March for Our Lives students need

Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment – Rolling Stone

Opinion | To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment

Gee that took all of .42 seconds to find

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

 

[skookerasbil]

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

 

[skookerasbil]

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

 

[hazlnut]

This is the thing you anti gunners don't realize about the teenagers from Parkland..... teenagers eat tidepods, play Fortnight, and snort condoms.... Those of us who understand the history of mankind and human nature, want to protect the Bill of Rights... So, while teenagers forget, we remember....and we are going to remember in November what you want to do to our gun Rights....

This is why the gun control extremist groups are telling the gun control extremist democrats to not say they want to ban Assault rifles.......

Dem Candidate Tedra Cobb Tells Supporters She Wants ‘Assault Rifle’ Ban But ‘Cannot Say That’ in Public

Tedra Cobb, the Democratic candidate in New York's 21st Congressional District, told a group of teenage supporters that she supports a ban on certain firearms but won't say so publicly for fear of losing her election.

"When I was at this thing today, it was the first table I was at, a woman said, ‘How do you feel about assault rifles?' And I said they should be banned," Cobb can be heard saying in the video recorded by one of the attendees. "And I said, you know, people were getting up to go, to go get their lunch because it was a buffet, and I just said to her, I want you to know Cindy, I cannot say that."

When the woman pushed back on Cobb keeping quiet on how she feels about banning certain firearms, Cobb said coming out in favor of a gun ban would lead to her losing her bid against Republican incumbent Elise Stefanik.

"And she said, ‘Well, I want you to' and I said, ‘I won't win,'" Cobb said. "I said Moms Demand [Action] says, and Tricia Pleau said, ‘Do not say that you want an assault rifle ban because you will not win.'"

Tricia Pleau is a member of the New York chapter of the gun-control group Moms Demand Action.

Cobb's campaign website features a page on "Addressing Gun Violence" detailing her support for a number of gun-control measures but does not feature any language supporting a specific ban on any firearms.

Chris Martin, regional press secretary of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said Cobb's comments are disqualifying.

"Tedra Cobb knows that she's wildly out of touch with the district, so she's desperately trying to hide her liberal agenda from voters," Martin said. "First, she was forced to admit that she raised taxes over 20 times, and now she's being exposed for lying to voters about her support for an assault weapons ban and taking guns away from law-abiding citizens."

The Cobb campaign did not respond to a request for comment from the Free Beacon but did issue a statement to The Post Star.

You mean Republicans never have extreme views they hold back when running in moderate districts?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Like the man said, this sob story has been repeated over and over for the last 40 years. And we still have our guns. I even had a FFL License in the past which was as easy to get as if I were doing a gun background check today. Doesn't sound too serious to me. You just want to keep trying to make weak people keep fear going. It's not working. Common Sense People make up the majority of the population. The only guns I want removed other than outright dangerous people are from people like you who are the most likely to go off on the general public. The rest of us will be fine. Now, turn our guns in, check into the nearest fruitcake farm and leave the rest of us to get on with our lives in peace and tranquility. And stop making shit up.
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You are an unserious person...... you can't lie anymore, your buddies shouted they plan on banning semi automatic weapons at the CNN town hall, at the School walk outs and the rallies held across the country... they stopped lying and stated the real agenda...

Oh, I see. Someone says that they want to ban the AR and it's various incarnations and you think they mean ALL semi auto weapons. Sorry to bust your bubble but the courts don't see it your way and neither does most of the public. It's legal to ban a specific weapon by name without banning the entire class of firearms. You can read into it to try and further your lie but in the end, you are a liar trying to sensationalize a lie. Stop making shit up.

Oy.....what a dolt.

Nobody is complying with these "assault" weapon bans where it's been done in some states. And the same weapons are available without the scary features!!

Oh and the courts are about to become a graveyard for the gun grabbers

The same debate was done in the early 30s over the Thompson. You think you are being original? The only difference is, you have the internet to spout off in. There were also thousands of Sten Guns in the general population as well plus a number of other brand new SMGs. There was quite a debate on how to handle it. What they came up with is one of attrition. They went after one specific weapon, the light machine gun. Not the other brand new just coming onto the market semi auto sport rifles. They didn't go house to house looking for them. The banned the manufacture for civilians of the weapons, parts and support. They banned the transfer of the weapons from one private person to another without both having a valid FFL License. And as the Criminals were apprehended with them, they gathered the weapons up and destroyed them. It took about 10 years to get them off the streets and into the collectors hands. Meanwhile, the Military and Government Agencies were still able to buy new Thompsons. This is how it's done. Our older generation ain't so stupid afterall but you are. Now stop making shit up.

Meh

In a number of states they banned "assault" weapons like the AK47 with a pistol grip and suppressor. So manufacturers developed models without those features. In fact, I got one in 7.62x39.....no pistol grip. Big shit! Same with AR models.....can still get 'em anywhere sans the "ASSault" features. Same hellacious firepower ftmfw while goofball progressives take bows when a feature is removed from a weapon.

What are the model numbers of those castrate "Assault" rifles. I'd like to see a few of them.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Unconstitutional! Enough said...

Care to spell out exactly how it's unconstitutional? Get down to the nitty gitty. Just saying that doesn't make it so. Poke holes in what I say instead of just trying to counter with the stock sound bites. They aren't working these days.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

 

[skookerasbil]

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

Well perhaps s0n....but those on the side of this strawman....are winning. And that's all that matters!!

Pew survey finds sharp drop in overall support for gun control

Nobody cares about gun control.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yet, not a single one speaks of a total ban of Guns. Not one. What they all have in common is something I have brought up. And that is that the phrase that you lift out of the 2nd amendment, "The Right to Bear Arms" is way too vague. The 2nd amendment needs to be undated. The problem is, in order to update it, it first must be repealed. Then it can be replaced at the same time with a new amendment. Do I have a right to have a M-2 pointing out the front of my house? Do I have a right to ride around with a box of Fragment Grenades in the back of my Pickup Truck? Do I have the right to have a Van full of Nitrogen Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel parked in front of a government building? If I use your definition then it's Yes to all of the above. The first part and the last part of the 2nd amendment has already been made obsolete. But those 5 words have proven to be way too vague and are up to broad interpretations. Luckily, it's been left up to the States to legally make those interpretations and most are stepping up to the plate. But until the 2nd amendment is amended, uneducated people like you will try and bully others into making some pretty stupid decisions. Well, bully, go for it. I have the time. And stop making shit up.

No they just want to ban so called "assault rifles" which are nothing but semiautomatic rifles

and I never said anything about a comprehensive ban on all guns but the repeal of the Second would be used for such a purpose

Maybe one day you'll stop talking from both sides of your mouth and your ass all at the same time

The original intent of the AR-15 was that of an assault rifle. And it is still engineered for that. Just because you can shoot a ground hog with it doesn't mean it's not an assault rifle. You can shoot a deer with a M-60 as well, does that make the M-60 a deer rifle? If they made a single shot M-60 would that be called a Deer Sporting Rifle? Are you aware that there is a FLN version of the M249 in civilian trim? Does that make it a Sporting Rifle? By your definition the Civilian M249S can also qualify as a sporting rifle. It can easily fire 200 rounds a minute single shot using belt feed without jamming. If you think it's acceptable, it's not. Most states won't let it within miles of their state line. Like the AR and the M-60, it's designed for WAR and it's pretty damned good at it even when you castrate it a bit. At some point, we have to decide where the line has to be drawn. Those 5 words you keep misinterpreting the way you read them won't allow that line to be drawn. If you think someone walking down the street with an AR-15 makes the public jumpy, try walking down the street with a M-249S. It's also a 223 or specifically a 556 Nato Round Rifle that is semi auto, single shot. Sure an glad that it can't be imported easily to the United States and it costs more than 8000 bucks.

So stop making shit up.

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

I can see you haven't handled both. Otherwise you would see the difference.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It is a plain old ordinary semiautomatic rifle
That is all it is that is all it will ever be

Stop making shit up

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

Well perhaps s0n....but those on the side of this strawman....are winning. And that's all that matters!!

Pew survey finds sharp drop in overall support for gun control

Nobody cares about gun control.

51% of those polled want common sense gun regulations while the other 49% will vary from some gun regulation to no gun regulation. It's not cut and dried like you present it as. And you are trying to use it to say you are right. Nope, you are just making crap up again. Stop making shit up. Your own cite say your are wrong.

 

[skookerasbil]

The Mini-14 fits that definition. The AR-15 is designed for a scared shitless 18 year old to go into war, shoot the gun,reload it and continue shooting it even with shaking hands without ever taking his finger very far from the trigger. It's designed to fire fast. An ordinary semiauto rifle is designed for hunting, not to see how many rounds it can fire in such a short time. I doubt if you really want to pump all your rounds into whatever animal you are hunting. I like to bag it on the first with the capability to fire a second if the first did not finish the job humanely. If it takes 10 or 30 rounds to down a varmint then you really shouldn't be out there in the first place since you are danger to everyone and everything around you. And come up with your own tag line. And, did I mention, Stop making shit up.

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

Well perhaps s0n....but those on the side of this strawman....are winning. And that's all that matters!!

Pew survey finds sharp drop in overall support for gun control

Nobody cares about gun control.

51% of those polled want common sense gun regulations while the other 49% will vary from some gun regulation to no gun regulation. It's not cut and dried like you present it as. And you are trying to use it to say you are right. Nope, you are just making crap up again. Stop making shit up. Your own cite say your are wrong.

Whatever you say s0n!

Yep ahhhhhh ( takes toke on ciggy in classic Denis Leary fashion ). Congress sure is knocking folks over with new gun legislation! After those kid marches.....David Hogg.....historic action!

@www.whosnotwinning.com

For 10 years, gun grabbers have been in here taking bows in front of banners and billboards. Gun guys continue to laugh their nut sacks off!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The Mini 14 chambered for 5.56 is no fucking different than an AR 15

And ALL semiautomatics fire at the same rate of one round er trigger pull

There is no other rate of fire that a semiautomatic is capable of

Magazine size is completely irrelevant.

And unlike you I don't make shit up.

You're the idiot trying to say that one particular semiautomatic rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO is somehow more deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle chambered for the same

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

Well perhaps s0n....but those on the side of this strawman....are winning. And that's all that matters!!

Pew survey finds sharp drop in overall support for gun control

Nobody cares about gun control.

51% of those polled want common sense gun regulations while the other 49% will vary from some gun regulation to no gun regulation. It's not cut and dried like you present it as. And you are trying to use it to say you are right. Nope, you are just making crap up again. Stop making shit up. Your own cite say your are wrong.

Whatever you say s0n!

Yep ahhhhhh ( takes toke on ciggy in classic Denis Leary fashion ). Congress sure is knocking folks over with new gun legislation! After those kid marches.....David Hogg.....historic action!

@www.whosnotwinning.com

For 10 years, gun grabbers have been in here taking bows in front of banners and billboards. Gun guys continue to laugh their nut sacks off!

It's no up to the US Congress. It's up to each individual States. The US Congress really can't pass may laws without getting into a States Rights issue on Gun Rights. First they would have to do a major rewrite of the US Constitution and fat chance of that happening. The US Congress can't even agree on what to have for breakfast.

 

[skookerasbil]

Lol...like when the noodlehead progressives were stunned the Parkland guy used a 12G.....as an "assault" weapon. Disbelief.

Of course, any gun guy who has ever spent even one day at a range probably didn't bat an eyelash. A 12G going off indoors....holy mother of God! Not even a consideration for a moment by a gun grabber.

Imagine having a conversation with a Canadian who runs a ski resort and you are an expert in running a waterpark in a tropical country....but worse

Ah, the old strawman defense.

Well perhaps s0n....but those on the side of this strawman....are winning. And that's all that matters!!

Pew survey finds sharp drop in overall support for gun control

Nobody cares about gun control.

51% of those polled want common sense gun regulations while the other 49% will vary from some gun regulation to no gun regulation. It's not cut and dried like you present it as. And you are trying to use it to say you are right. Nope, you are just making crap up again. Stop making shit up. Your own cite say your are wrong.

Whatever you say s0n!

Yep ahhhhhh ( takes toke on ciggy in classic Denis Leary fashion ). Congress sure is knocking folks over with new gun legislation! After those kid marches.....David Hogg.....historic action!

@www.whosnotwinning.com

For 10 years, gun grabbers have been in here taking bows in front of banners and billboards. Gun guys continue to laugh their nut sacks off!

It's no up to the US Congress. It's up to each individual States. The US Congress really can't pass may laws without getting into a States Rights issue on Gun Rights. First they would have to do a major rewrite of the US Constitution and fat chance of that happening. The US Congress can't even agree on what to have for breakfast.

Indeed....all those states!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/blog/2018/03/05/these-3-states-want-to-make-gun-ownershi/amp