If Democrats Win House, What Damage Can They Really Do ?

There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.
But if they do, they will PAY for it. The POTUS has a lot of leverage over the Congress. He can stop every thing they try to do, cold. There are some things that Democrats can succeed in getting into law, that Republicans can agree with them on (ex middle class tax cuts, infrastructure repair, etc) If Democrats get nasty, their House bills are sawdust.
And there are things Democrats can prevent Trump from doing... such as repealing ObamaCare and building his border wall. They can also impeach him should they choose; or they can censure him.
 
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There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.
But if they do, they will PAY for it. The POTUS has a lot of leverage over the Congress. He can stop every thing they try to do, cold. There are some things that Democrats can succeed in getting into law, that Republicans can agree with them on (ex middle class tax cuts, infrastructure repair, etc) If Democrats get nasty, their House bills are sawdust.
And there are things Democrats can prevent Trump from doing... such as repealing ObamaCare and building his border wall. They can also impeach him should they choose; or they can censure him.

They could. But what goes around comes around. DumBama was not the last Democrat President in the country.
 
And there are things Democrats can prevent Trump from doing... such as repealing ObamaCare and building his border wall. They can also impeach him should they choose; or they can censure him.
They can play hard ball, or they can play ping pong. If they play hard ball, they will lose, AND show the American people that they don't care about them, but only want to push their agenda FOR THEMSELVES. ANd the Republicans will be quick to point it out.

As far as what Trump might do, he's already DONE 95% of them.
 
Wrong. If Democrats win control of the House, it’s the further damage that they can prevent.

Democratic control of the House would place a much needed check on the failed, reckless, and irresponsible Trump/GOP agenda.

There will be nothing Democrats can do to address the damage Trump has already done, of course.
You mean THIS "damage" ? :biggrin:

1. Brought GDP growth up > from 1.8% to 4.2%


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2. Lowered unemployment from 4.8% to 3.7%

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3. Lowest black unemployment EVER (5.7%)

4. Lowest Hispanic unemployment EVER (4.6%)

5. Highest Median income EVER ($61,372/year)

6. US homebuilding permits soar to highest level since 2007.

7. US manufacturing having best year since 2004

8. Welfare participation at 17 year low.

9. More Americans working than EVER before.

10. ISIS chased out of Raqqa and Mosul - much weakened

Donald J. Trump's Accomplishment's List | MAGA PILL

Now say "Thank you Obama". You're welcome...

That Obama is an amazing guy. He never instituted one business or economic growth policy, yet he's still responsible for what's taking place under Trump almost two years later.
 
And there are things Democrats can prevent Trump from doing... such as repealing ObamaCare and building his border wall. They can also impeach him should they choose; or they can censure him.
They can play hard ball, or they can play ping pong. If they play hard ball, they will lose, AND show the American people that they don't care about them, but only want to push their agenda FOR THEMSELVES. ANd the Republicans will be quick to point it out.

As far as what Trump might do, he's already DONE 95% of them.
You’re nuts to think Democrats will suffer for smacking down trump given Republicans did that to Obama and then gained power.
 
protectionist, post: 21129662
A recent article in the Associated Press said this >> "Should Democrats win control of the House, as strategists in both parties suggest is likely, they could derail Trump's legislative agenda for the next two years." Well, that my be true, but an enormous amount of legislation has already been passed by the Republican Congress and Trump, which Democrats have no ability to do anything about.

Trumps tax cuts can't be altered, Muslim ban already enacted into law (upheld by the Supreme Court), almost 100 Conservative judges have been appointed, Iran deal decertified, deregulation already has occurred (and bolstered the economy), corporate tax already reduced significantly, unfair trade imbalances have been smashed, economy improved immensely due to Trump reforms, 2 conservative SCOTUS judges already appointed, $200 Million in aid to Palestinians already cut off, $300 Million to Pakistan already cut, America now world's largest oil producer, pipelines are flowing, US embassy moved to Jerusalem, first woman head of CIA, action taken to fight opioids, Obamacare individual mandate scrapped, prisoners from North Korea returned home, eliminated funding for Syrian rebels, "knocked the hell out of ISIS", 800 Obama regualtions cut (saving $200 Billion), Cut white House budget (saving $22 Million), $285 Million cut from bloated UN budget,...……..this paragraph could go on and on to 20 times the size it is.

So sure, if Democrats take back the House they can stop Republican progress, but so much has already been done it is mind-boggling. For the past 2 years, the Don has been a very busy boy, and has already MADE America great again, of which the Democrats can do little or nothing about.

The AP article also says >> "Perhaps more importantly, they would also win subpoena power to investigate the president's many personal and professional missteps." More importantly ? Really ? Like the Russian collusion hoax that sputtered out to nothing and made a fool out of Robert Mueller ? Investigate ? Like all the accusations against Justice Kavanaugh that went nowhere ? Like the DNC's Muslim gold star father, Khizir Khan, who is all but in hiding, after he was exposed as a shill fraud immigration lawyer with a vested interest, plus had Muslim Brotherhood and Clinton Foundation connections ? Like all these laughingstock investigations, and attacks against Trump, while his approval ratings keep rising with each and every attack.

I suppose the Democrats could stop some stuff in 2019 and 2020, but the reality is, this might be a political war that has already been won by Trump and conservatives.

They can control the Federal budget agenda when the Republican induced recession hits next year. You know you are now stating Dems will have no effect on all the great bullshit Trump and the GOP have supposedly done the past two years. You locked them in as fully responsible for an economic crash due in part to increased federal deficits.

Republicans lost power in a booming economy and demographics are trending to inflict more pain on the GOP as future elections loom.

When the economy turns sour next year it will be a double whammy going into 2020 for Trump’s hate agenda.

The Republican Trumpo driven death spiral picked up a lot of steam yesterday.

Given the outcome of last nights election, do you think that if we do have economic troubles, nobody will blame the new leadership in Congress?
LOLOL

You say that as though the right wouldn’t be blaming the left anyway, even had Democrats not won control of the House last night.

:lmao:

Perhaps, but it's more convincing now that they did take over.
 
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That Obama is an amazing guy. He never instituted one business or economic growth policy, yet he's still responsible for what's taking place under Trump almost two years later.

When you look at the clusterfuck he inherited from Bush, Obama did a great job - with a hostile Congress and Senate. You did here of the GFC, right? You do remember that, right?
 
Let's be clear.

The House can vote to impeach trump.

Then it goes to the senate where the trial takes place.

2/3 of the senate has to vote to remove him from office.

You know that...right ?
The Democrats can do nothing but put on a big show with all their investigations and subpoenas, wasting million of taxpayers' dollars, turning millions of Americans away from them.
Like Republicans, ya mean. Show me where you rightwingnuts ever complained when the GOP held eight independent investigations into Benghazi.... show me where you bitched about the cost of repeating that investigation over and over and over.

You didn’t care then; no one cares about your bitching now. You might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride.

The difference is there is suspicious evidence that something went terribly wrong in Benghazi. Zero evidence of Trump having anything to do with Russia or dirty dealings.

Or do you think that Benghazi should have not been investigated given the Ambassador asked for more security, that funds were appropriated for security that was never provided, and the US never sent any help at the initial sign of an attack?
There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.

Their success had nothing to do with Benghazi. Probably at the time, if you asked people on the street about Benghazi, half would tell you Ben was a great actor.

People don't like political wars; particularly if the wars are unwarranted or simply out of revenge. They don't like power grabs. Kavanaugh is probably what killed the blue wave. People just don't like that shit.
 
protectionist, post: 21129662
A recent article in the Associated Press said this >> "Should Democrats win control of the House, as strategists in both parties suggest is likely, they could derail Trump's legislative agenda for the next two years." Well, that my be true, but an enormous amount of legislation has already been passed by the Republican Congress and Trump, which Democrats have no ability to do anything about.

Trumps tax cuts can't be altered, Muslim ban already enacted into law (upheld by the Supreme Court), almost 100 Conservative judges have been appointed, Iran deal decertified, deregulation already has occurred (and bolstered the economy), corporate tax already reduced significantly, unfair trade imbalances have been smashed, economy improved immensely due to Trump reforms, 2 conservative SCOTUS judges already appointed, $200 Million in aid to Palestinians already cut off, $300 Million to Pakistan already cut, America now world's largest oil producer, pipelines are flowing, US embassy moved to Jerusalem, first woman head of CIA, action taken to fight opioids, Obamacare individual mandate scrapped, prisoners from North Korea returned home, eliminated funding for Syrian rebels, "knocked the hell out of ISIS", 800 Obama regualtions cut (saving $200 Billion), Cut white House budget (saving $22 Million), $285 Million cut from bloated UN budget,...……..this paragraph could go on and on to 20 times the size it is.

So sure, if Democrats take back the House they can stop Republican progress, but so much has already been done it is mind-boggling. For the past 2 years, the Don has been a very busy boy, and has already MADE America great again, of which the Democrats can do little or nothing about.

The AP article also says >> "Perhaps more importantly, they would also win subpoena power to investigate the president's many personal and professional missteps." More importantly ? Really ? Like the Russian collusion hoax that sputtered out to nothing and made a fool out of Robert Mueller ? Investigate ? Like all the accusations against Justice Kavanaugh that went nowhere ? Like the DNC's Muslim gold star father, Khizir Khan, who is all but in hiding, after he was exposed as a shill fraud immigration lawyer with a vested interest, plus had Muslim Brotherhood and Clinton Foundation connections ? Like all these laughingstock investigations, and attacks against Trump, while his approval ratings keep rising with each and every attack.

I suppose the Democrats could stop some stuff in 2019 and 2020, but the reality is, this might be a political war that has already been won by Trump and conservatives.

They can control the Federal budget agenda when the Republican induced recession hits next year. You know you are now stating Dems will have no effect on all the great bullshit Trump and the GOP have supposedly done the past two years. You locked them in as fully responsible for an economic crash due in part to increased federal deficits.

Republicans lost power in a booming economy and demographics are trending to inflict more pain on the GOP as future elections loom.

When the economy turns sour next year it will be a double whammy going into 2020 for Trump’s hate agenda.

The Republican Trumpo driven death spiral picked up a lot of steam yesterday.

Given the outcome of last nights election, do you think that if we do have economic troubles, nobody will blame the new leadership in Congress?
LOLOL

You say that as though the right wouldn’t be blaming the left anyway, even had Democrats not won control of the House last night.

:lmao:

Perhaps, but it's more convincing now that they did take over.
Only to you nutcases on the right. Shit, you’re already blaming them. Now let’s see if you give them credit for keeping the economy going should it not continue growing.
 
The most recent GDP growth was 3.5%, not 4.2%.
So it dropped a tad. Big deal. Doesn't change what I said. Obama's GDP sunk from 2.3 to 1.8, and Trump raised it to 4.2. And even if it had never been 4.2, but had gone from 1.8 to 3.5, that's a terrific increase, especially as compared to Obama's dismal sinkage.

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PS - anybody seen today's stock market report >>

November 7, 5:16 PM EST
Dow Jones Industrial Average
DOW


26,180.30
▲ 545.29 (2.13%)


NASDAQ Composite
NASDAQ
7,570.75
▲ 194.79 (2.64%)


S&P 500 Index
S&P 500
2,813.89
▲ 58.44 (2.12%)
 
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Let's be clear.

The House can vote to impeach trump.

Then it goes to the senate where the trial takes place.

2/3 of the senate has to vote to remove him from office.

You know that...right ?
The Democrats can do nothing but put on a big show with all their investigations and subpoenas, wasting million of taxpayers' dollars, turning millions of Americans away from them.
Like Republicans, ya mean. Show me where you rightwingnuts ever complained when the GOP held eight independent investigations into Benghazi.... show me where you bitched about the cost of repeating that investigation over and over and over.

You didn’t care then; no one cares about your bitching now. You might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride.

The difference is there is suspicious evidence that something went terribly wrong in Benghazi. Zero evidence of Trump having anything to do with Russia or dirty dealings.

Or do you think that Benghazi should have not been investigated given the Ambassador asked for more security, that funds were appropriated for security that was never provided, and the US never sent any help at the initial sign of an attack?
There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.

Their success had nothing to do with Benghazi. Probably at the time, if you asked people on the street about Benghazi, half would tell you Ben was a great actor.

People don't like political wars; particularly if the wars are unwarranted or simply out of revenge. They don't like power grabs. Kavanaugh is probably what killed the blue wave. People just don't like that shit.
Dumbass, Republicans wouldn’t have opened 8 investigations and dragged it along through two election cycles had they not benefited from it. Sadly, thinking isn’t something you’re very good at.
 
Let's be clear.

The House can vote to impeach trump.

Then it goes to the senate where the trial takes place.

2/3 of the senate has to vote to remove him from office.

You know that...right ?
The Democrats can do nothing but put on a big show with all their investigations and subpoenas, wasting million of taxpayers' dollars, turning millions of Americans away from them.
Oh, they can do a lot more than that. Every spending bill must originate in the House which also means the budget. Every republican bill must pass the House. And Trump's big beautiful 25 billion dollar wall is more likely to become a reinforced fence in selected areas. And those investigating committees can certainly be a problem for Trump. Since the Mid Terms are over, the Mueller investigation can now move on subpoenas and indictments. With democrat control of the House it opens up the possibility of an impeachment indictment if Mueller or the House uncovers sufficient evidence.
It also means Democrats can now start up their own investigations into Russian meddling. Just in case trump is thinking about installing a new Attorney General who will fire Mueller for him.

Oh would we love that; Congress starting an investigation that was already started two years ago with a special council and a team of Trump haters that didn't produce squat. And don't give me who was indicted. It had nothing to do with Russian collusion.
 
The Democrats can do nothing but put on a big show with all their investigations and subpoenas, wasting million of taxpayers' dollars, turning millions of Americans away from them.
Like Republicans, ya mean. Show me where you rightwingnuts ever complained when the GOP held eight independent investigations into Benghazi.... show me where you bitched about the cost of repeating that investigation over and over and over.

You didn’t care then; no one cares about your bitching now. You might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride.

The difference is there is suspicious evidence that something went terribly wrong in Benghazi. Zero evidence of Trump having anything to do with Russia or dirty dealings.

Or do you think that Benghazi should have not been investigated given the Ambassador asked for more security, that funds were appropriated for security that was never provided, and the US never sent any help at the initial sign of an attack?
There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.

Their success had nothing to do with Benghazi. Probably at the time, if you asked people on the street about Benghazi, half would tell you Ben was a great actor.

People don't like political wars; particularly if the wars are unwarranted or simply out of revenge. They don't like power grabs. Kavanaugh is probably what killed the blue wave. People just don't like that shit.
Dumbass, Republicans wouldn’t have opened 8 investigations and dragged it along through two election cycles had they not benefited from it. Sadly, thinking isn’t something you’re very good at.

Well keep thinking that. In fact, write to the Commies and tell them you demand it. 2020 is right around the corner and we could use an additional 4 more years of Trump after this term.
 
Now say "Thank you Obama". You're welcome...
Obama had zero to do with it. Can you read charts ? Like the GDP one you just quoted ? Obama GDP >> 2.3 fell to 1.8. After Trump got in, it went from 1.8 to 4.2.

Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn ?
The most recent GDP growth was 3.5%, not 4.2%.
So it dropped a tad. Big deal. Doesn't change what I said. Obama's GDP sunk from 2.3 to 1.8, and Trump raised it to 4.2. And even I it had never been 4.2, but had gone from 1.8 to 3.5, that's a terrific increase as compared to Obama's dismal sinkage.

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Well, now you’re cherry picking. Actually, while Trump took GDP from 1.8% growth to 3.5%, a difference of 1.7 points .... Obama took GDP from -8.4% growth to 1.8%, a difference of 10.2 points.

So now we see you cherry pick AND lie. :eusa_naughty:
 
Like Republicans, ya mean. Show me where you rightwingnuts ever complained when the GOP held eight independent investigations into Benghazi.... show me where you bitched about the cost of repeating that investigation over and over and over.

You didn’t care then; no one cares about your bitching now. You might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride.

The difference is there is suspicious evidence that something went terribly wrong in Benghazi. Zero evidence of Trump having anything to do with Russia or dirty dealings.

Or do you think that Benghazi should have not been investigated given the Ambassador asked for more security, that funds were appropriated for security that was never provided, and the US never sent any help at the initial sign of an attack?
There may have been suspicious evidence over Benghazi which did indeed warrant an investigation.

The 7 investigations which followed were utter bullshit for no reason other than political gain in elections. And worked out well for Republicans. They won the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.

Now it’s the Democrats’ turn. And with trump, there is a wealth of shit to investigate him on.

Their success had nothing to do with Benghazi. Probably at the time, if you asked people on the street about Benghazi, half would tell you Ben was a great actor.

People don't like political wars; particularly if the wars are unwarranted or simply out of revenge. They don't like power grabs. Kavanaugh is probably what killed the blue wave. People just don't like that shit.
Dumbass, Republicans wouldn’t have opened 8 investigations and dragged it along through two election cycles had they not benefited from it. Sadly, thinking isn’t something you’re very good at.

Well keep thinking that. In fact, write to the Commies and tell them you demand it. 2020 is right around the corner and we could use an additional 4 more years of Trump after this term.
I’m sure they don’t need me to tell them to follow the Republican playbook. They saw for themselves how fruitful that turned out for the right.
 
Let's be clear.

The House can vote to impeach trump.

Then it goes to the senate where the trial takes place.

2/3 of the senate has to vote to remove him from office.

You know that...right ?
The Democrats can do nothing but put on a big show with all their investigations and subpoenas, wasting million of taxpayers' dollars, turning millions of Americans away from them.
Oh, they can do a lot more than that. Every spending bill must originate in the House which also means the budget. Every republican bill must pass the House. And Trump's big beautiful 25 billion dollar wall is more likely to become a reinforced fence in selected areas. And those investigating committees can certainly be a problem for Trump. Since the Mid Terms are over, the Mueller investigation can now move on subpoenas and indictments. With democrat control of the House it opens up the possibility of an impeachment indictment if Mueller or the House uncovers sufficient evidence.
It also means Democrats can now start up their own investigations into Russian meddling. Just in case trump is thinking about installing a new Attorney General who will fire Mueller for him.

Oh would we love that; Congress starting an investigation that was already started two years ago with a special council and a team of Trump haters that didn't produce squat. And don't give me who was indicted. It had nothing to do with Russian collusion.
LOLOL

Are you retarded? Or just suffer from memory loss?

Republicans reopened Whitewater after it had already been opened up. They parlayed that into investigation after investigation until they finally got something to impeach Clinton on. Helped them win the 2000 election.

Now watch, and bitch & moan, as Democrats flip that on the right.
 
Well, now you’re cherry picking. Actually, while Trump took GDP from 1.8% growth to 3.5%, a difference of 1.7 points .... Obama took GDP from -8.4% growth to 1.8%, a difference of 10.2 points.

So now we see you cherry pick AND lie.
Congratulations! You are the 1000th poster to have presented that idiotic "argument" in USMB.

EARTH TO FAUN. After any very severe recession, as in 2008, economies naturally spring back to normal range on their own, no matter who is president. By 2016 however, that was already done. In 2016, Obama was on his own with the economy, the 2016 numbers can be attributed to HIM, and he was a flunk, to put it mildly.

And :puhleeze:Trump took GDP to 4.2, not 3.5. :eusa_naughty:
 

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