If Republicans Cared About Families, They’d Stop Blocking Paid Leave

[ScienceRocks]

Which is a failure of abstenance
Abstenance works up till the point it doesn't

They want to tell people what they can do! It is pretty sick.

:snicker:
Yes, forcing employers they must pay employees for time not worked is pretty sick.

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

He's a Progressive. It's what they do.

And you're a hunter gather that doesn't believe we should function as a civilization. It is what you do.

 

[The Rabbi]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

And you assume workers would simply accept 25cents/hr without gov't forcing employers to pay more. Right?

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, you tell em greedy white Republican dude! We should do what they do in wonderful slave labor countries... Just kick her in the gut and tell her to get back to work. The dumb bitch. Time is money.

 

[David_42]

They want to tell people what they can do! It is pretty sick.

:snicker:
Yes, forcing employers they must pay employees for time not worked is pretty sick.

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact. I suppose you could call paid leave forcing morality, but economically and socially, it benefits both parties. Sick employees will actually stay home when they're sick because they can afford to, employees will be more confident, etc, etc.. Productivity is the highest it's been, workers are getting shit on.

 

[The Rabbi]

They want to tell people what they can do! It is pretty sick.

:snicker:
Yes, forcing employers they must pay employees for time not worked is pretty sick.

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

He's a Progressive. It's what they do.

And you're a hunter gather that doesn't believe we should function as a civilization. It is what you do.

And you're a stalinist who believes in sending people off to the gulag so they can work on science, infrastructure and education.

 

[The Rabbi]

:snicker:
Yes, forcing employers they must pay employees for time not worked is pretty sick.

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact. I suppose you could call paid leave forcing morality, but economically and socially, it benefits both parties. Sick employees will actually stay home when they're sick because they can afford to, employees will be more confident, etc, etc.. Productivity is the highest it's been, workers are getting shit on.

It isnt a fact. You havent posted a fact yet. And your supposition is wrong. Employees go to work anyway.

 

[David_42]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

And you assume workers would simply accept 25cents/hr without gov't forcing employers to pay more. Right?

That's pretty how much it was before the government started stepping in, the same logic applies to safety of the workplace, how long employees want to work.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

What's funnier s that you assume we would not.

Government is, at the most basic level a service provider - those of who pay taxes in effect pay it to do certain things we want done.
That we pay the government to do these things in no way means we would not pay someone else - or do it ourselves - absent the existence of government.

You, of course, have never considered such a thing.

 

[David_42]

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact. I suppose you could call paid leave forcing morality, but economically and socially, it benefits both parties. Sick employees will actually stay home when they're sick because they can afford to, employees will be more confident, etc, etc.. Productivity is the highest it's been, workers are getting shit on.

It isnt a fact. You havent posted a fact yet. And your supposition is wrong. Employees go to work anyway.

What fact haven't I posted?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-economic-benefits-of-paid-parental-leave.html?_r=0
Err, sick employees tend to not go to work sick if they have paid leave.

 

[David_42]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

What's funnier s that you assume we would not.

Government is, at the most basic level a service provider - those of who pay taxes in effect pay it to do certain things we want done.
That we pay the government to do these things in no way means we would not pay someone else - or do it ourselves - absent the existence of government.

You, of course, have never considered such a thing.

So you believe society could function without a government? Great, another fucking anarcho capitalist.. Somalia is waiting.

 

[M14 Shooter]

:snicker:
Yes, forcing employers they must pay employees for time not worked is pretty sick.

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact.

Its a fact that you offered a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

 

[David_42]

Employers should be forced to provide paid leave, like every other country.

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact.

Its a fact that you offered a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

It's not a moral position, it's a common sense position, it benefits employers, employees, and customers. There is no evidence it harms businesses at all.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-economic-benefits-of-paid-parental-leave.html?_r=0

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They will scream that since it helps the little guy it is unconstitutional and socialism. These people could give a shit less about 99% of this nation.

Sick bastards.

'Fuck the bitch. She got pregnant. It's her problem.'

Pretty much sums up greedy white Republican guy on this one.

I fail to see the problem with "fuck her,because I didnt"
He/she wants to have children they should prepare for up coming event.
It's not like they didnt have 9 months and longer to prepare for the day.

What about the unwanted child? Is child abuse OK?

Foster home.

Fuck that. Who's gonna pay for it? Why is it my fault the little bastard is homeless? Why should i pay for it? Fuck em.

Better to pay for one so he/she gets a proper upbringing so you can break the ghetto cycle of popping out kids by the dozen for money.
Because thats the real problem,kids growing up thinking welfare is a way of life.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

What's funnier s that you assume we would not.

Government is, at the most basic level a service provider - those of who pay taxes in effect pay it to do certain things we want done.
That we pay the government to do these things in no way means we would not pay someone else - or do it ourselves - absent the existence of government.

You, of course, have never considered such a thing.

So you believe society could function without a government? Great, another fucking anarcho capitalist.. Somalia is waiting.

Your inability to provide a sound, meaningful, thoughtful and knowledgeable response is duly noted.
Any other false dichotomies and vacuous truths you'd like to hide behind?

 

[The Rabbi]

The only time liberals "care" is if someone else is picking up the tab.
Noble creatures.... Lol

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

And you assume workers would simply accept 25cents/hr without gov't forcing employers to pay more. Right?

That's pretty how much it was before the government started stepping in, the same logic applies to safety of the workplace, how long employees want to work.

Yes everyone worked for 25cent/hr.
You are an idiot,.

 

[David_42]

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

What's funnier s that you assume we would not.

Government is, at the most basic level a service provider - those of who pay taxes in effect pay it to do certain things we want done.
That we pay the government to do these things in no way means we would not pay someone else - or do it ourselves - absent the existence of government.

You, of course, have never considered such a thing.

So you believe society could function without a government? Great, another fucking anarcho capitalist.. Somalia is waiting.

Your inability to provide a sound, meaningful, thoughtful and knowledgeable response is duly noted.
Any other false dichotomies and vacuous truths you'd like to hide behind?

I am not going to write an essay on why society needs a government, this is simply common sense.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah, sure.... let's move to a 30 hour work week and 90 days a year PTO. Sounds like great model.

 

[Misty]

Why do you require even more govern"mental" intervention.
Private industry is free to offer paid maternity leave anytime they feel like it. Some companies have already started the ball rolling.

Four words constantly need repeating for you thick-skulled dembulbs:

LET THE MARKET DECIDE

Why not let children work in factories, underpaid and over worked? Let the market decide, works for the third world.

Why do you think both parties want illegals?

Because this country has become so spoiled and entitled they won't even work anymore.

That's why companies are leaving America.

Rosa parks on a bill for sitting on a bus is lame. It's akin to giving Obama the peace prize.

What Rosa Parks has to do with anything previously said here is a mystery.

if you have problems with big business wanting immigrants, why do I care? You're the one screaming to let the markets decide, but you appear to not like the outcome.

I believe rosa parks is mentioned by the op.

I don't want the market to decide I want the business owner to decide. That's the point of owning a business.

So if the business says...We don't serve negroes here...you are OK with it

Maybe you'd do that cuz it came to your mind not mine.

I will hire anyone who can do the job and I will pay them according to their skill level and I will do business with anyone who has the money to pay me

Except pedophiles. I draw the line at pedophiles and that's probably illegal or a violation of some kind of civil rights.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

This has nothing to do with controlling uteruses.

Dodge!

Not a dodge, just a fact.

Its a fact that you offered a moral position.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

It's not a moral position...

You used the term "should", which boils down to a moral position - you believe it is the right thing to do.
Who are you to force your morality on others?

 

[David_42]

Aren't we a civilization that works together? Do you like your roads, severe weather warning, clean food, clean air and rights in the work place? Thank the government.

Actually, I thank me, and all of the people like me that paid for all of these things.

And you assume we'd be able to have these things benefiting all people without government.. LOL.

And you assume workers would simply accept 25cents/hr without gov't forcing employers to pay more. Right?

That's pretty how much it was before the government started stepping in, the same logic applies to safety of the workplace, how long employees want to work.

Yes everyone worked for 25cent/hr.
You are an idiot,.

I said "pretty much" Before the minimum wage was put into place, employees were underpaid all over the place, workers in certain areas were truly screwed. Safety laws follow a similar story, no women wanted to work in a factory with no fire escapes working, but they did, they had virtually no choice, it's either work or lack money for the kids. Thank god for the government and safety.