If Trump gets the NRA to back down on background checks will you lefties give him credit?

[NYcarbineer]

If Trump is able to get meaningful gun control passed I’ll give him credit. If he tosses us an insignificant bone hoping that we’ll shut up, the way he does with his sheep, then screw him. I expect the latter.

Do you consider his current ideas meaningful?

Today he claimed he would end bumpstocks on his own if he had to. Wants a higher age requirement & better background checks.

You don't seem to have noticed how much horseshit has come out of that man's mouth that was never followed with action do you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

The NRA came out against him on the age limit this morning.

I heard that as well. I obviously don't own guns but many of my family and friends do and none of them have a problem with that idea.
One of them who is a member suggested the NRA was against that idea because it could affect their memberships.

I'm torn on it, if an 18 year old can vote and serve this nation they should be able to own a firearm. Then I look at some of them and cringe at the thought of them being near one

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

What IS the correct age for someone to be able to buy a gun?

 

[OldLady]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

[sigh]
This is Trump. He was incredibly confident about repealing and replacing Obamacare too.
If he manages to encourage Republicans to get on board for changes that matter, I'll give him credit, for sure. He's not been so great at that so far, though.

 

[Vastator]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

We've already seen them arguing from the position of incrementalism. "Well... We were allowed to ban autos. We have background checks. We ha e age limits already..." It will never be enough till they have them all...

When's the last time in the US that someone committed a mass shooting with a fully automatic weapon?

Look it up, if it interests you. Me...? I really don't give a shit.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

The NRA came out against him on the age limit this morning.

I heard that as well. I obviously don't own guns but many of my family and friends do and none of them have a problem with that idea.
One of them who is a member suggested the NRA was against that idea because it could affect their memberships.

I'm torn on it, if an 18 year old can vote and serve this nation they should be able to own a firearm. Then I look at some of them and cringe at the thought of them being near one

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

They could still shoot, they just couldn't purchase.

 

[Dschrute3]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

I don't think ANY gun ban talk is on the table.

Obviously they won't openly push for total ban and confiscation. Communists are very devious and patient. They implement their Agenda in increments. Each new gun law is seen by them as getting them one step closer to achieving their ultimate goal. And we know what their ultimate goal is. Disarming the Citizenry is a major part of the Agenda. Any compromise will only = appeasement in the end.

Check out the documentary 'Agenda: Grinding America Down', when you get a a chance. You can watch it on places like Amazon Prime. It's fascinating and enlightening. The Communist Agenda in America has been ongoing for almost 100yrs. The Communists seized control of the US Democratic Party many years ago. Check out the film sometime.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The NRA came out against him on the age limit this morning.

I heard that as well. I obviously don't own guns but many of my family and friends do and none of them have a problem with that idea.
One of them who is a member suggested the NRA was against that idea because it could affect their memberships.

I'm torn on it, if an 18 year old can vote and serve this nation they should be able to own a firearm. Then I look at some of them and cringe at the thought of them being near one

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

They could still shoot, they just couldn't purchase.

I know but it goes back to being able to vote, serve this nation and responsibility

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

[sigh]
This is Trump. He was incredibly confident about repealing and replacing Obamacare too.
If he manages to encourage Republicans to get on board for changes that matter, I'll give him credit, for sure. He's not been so great at that so far, though.

A handful of Republican senators stopped the repeal. Most notably, one

 

[NYcarbineer]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

We've already seen them arguing from the position of incrementalism. "Well... We were allowed to ban autos. We have background checks. We ha e age limits already..." It will never be enough till they have them all...

When's the last time in the US that someone committed a mass shooting with a fully automatic weapon?

Look it up, if it interests you. Me...? I really don't give a shit.

I have looked it up. I couldn't find any. The ban on automatic weapons worked, whether you like it or not.

 

[Dschrute3]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

We've already seen them arguing from the position of incrementalism. "Well... We were allowed to ban autos. We have background checks. We have age limits already..." It will never be enough till they have them all...

'Death by a thousand cuts' Each new gun law passed, is seen by them as one step closer to their ultimate goal. And we know what that ultimate goal is.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

[sigh]
This is Trump. He was incredibly confident about repealing and replacing Obamacare too.
If he manages to encourage Republicans to get on board for changes that matter, I'll give him credit, for sure. He's not been so great at that so far, though.

A handful of Republican senators stopped the repeal. Most notably, one

41 Republicans stopped the closing of the background check loopholes that were supported by 90% of Americans.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I heard that as well. I obviously don't own guns but many of my family and friends do and none of them have a problem with that idea.
One of them who is a member suggested the NRA was against that idea because it could affect their memberships.

I'm torn on it, if an 18 year old can vote and serve this nation they should be able to own a firearm. Then I look at some of them and cringe at the thought of them being near one

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

They could still shoot, they just couldn't purchase.

I know but it goes back to being able to vote, serve this nation and responsibility

I don't really have an opinion either way since I lost my rights.
But I am opposed to any gun specific ban.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

We've already seen them arguing from the position of incrementalism. "Well... We were allowed to ban autos. We have background checks. We have age limits already..." It will never be enough till they have them all...

'Death by a thousand cuts' Each new gun law passed, is seen by them as one step closer to their ultimate goal. And we know what that ultimate goal is.

You don't know shit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm torn on it, if an 18 year old can vote and serve this nation they should be able to own a firearm. Then I look at some of them and cringe at the thought of them being near one

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

They could still shoot, they just couldn't purchase.

I know but it goes back to being able to vote, serve this nation and responsibility

I don't really have an opinion either way since I lost my rights.
But I am opposed to any gun specific ban.

You can buy guns through private sellers, no questions asked.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

[sigh]
This is Trump. He was incredibly confident about repealing and replacing Obamacare too.
If he manages to encourage Republicans to get on board for changes that matter, I'll give him credit, for sure. He's not been so great at that so far, though.

A handful of Republican senators stopped the repeal. Most notably, one

41 Republicans stopped the closing of the background check loopholes that were supported by 90% of Americans.

We were talking about Obamacare. If you want to butt in feel free but at least follow the discussion

 

[Timmy]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

Yes I will.

 

[Auld Phart]

Of course not. The ultimate goal for Communists/Democrats is a total ban and confiscation. People really are deluding themselves if they believe they'll stop at banning 'Bump Stocks' and AR's. Those measures only advance their Agenda a few steps closer to achieving their ultimate goal.

Trump and Republicans better be careful attempting to compromise with them. Because in the end, nothing short of a total ban and confiscation is gonna appease the Communists/Democrats. It's a major part of their Agenda.

We've already seen them arguing from the position of incrementalism. "Well... We were allowed to ban autos. We have background checks. We ha e age limits already..." It will never be enough till they have them all...

When's the last time in the US that someone committed a mass shooting with a fully automatic weapon?

St Valentines Day Massacre?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just by the wording of the thread title, isn't it weird that our government would have to get the NRA to 'back down' just so the government can do the right thing?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That's what I told my daughter. She is a gun owner & avid shooter. She is for the age restriction. I told her it didn't seem fair when looked at from the military & voting age.

All of our children shoot with their dad, they are responsible and will grow up to continue that. I hate to see those types of kids punished over the actions of others.

They could still shoot, they just couldn't purchase.

I know but it goes back to being able to vote, serve this nation and responsibility

I don't really have an opinion either way since I lost my rights.
But I am opposed to any gun specific ban.

You can buy guns through private sellers, no questions asked.

It would be illegal for me to do that so it's not going to happen. I can only be responsible for my own actions.

 

[JGalt]

It's no secret that the NRA has been bucking some of Trumps proposals so if he gets them to come around on the age limit or deeper background checks will you give him credit?
Trump seems incredibly confident that he can get the NRA to come on board and not be an active opponent.

The only thing the left will be crowing about If Trump gets the NRA to back down on background checks, is that they "beat" the NRA. They hate President Trump as much as they hate the NRA, and would never give him any credit whatsoever.

Has he received any amount of applause for anything he's done yet? Why would they start now?