If you are agaianst gay marriage, you're a BIGOT!

If comparing animals to people is ridiculous why the hell did you start comparing animals to people?
Why are comparisons ridiculous? Is it because you’re to ignorant to realize that animals are intelligent?
Why do you keep reposting the same article that I’ve debunked 10 times now? Is it because you cannot think so all you do is copy and paste the same rehashed shit?
When you start off the argument by saying that humans being gay is not natural because animals aren’t gay don’t come back after it’s proven that animals can and are gay with “oh its stupid to compare the two”
Also plz stop saying that things are not natural because you do not like them. The definition of natural is not “thinks LockJaw likes”
I await your response where you tell me to shut up because you keep saying things that are beyond retarded
I'm not addressing any of your other stupid shit until you show me how you debunked an article who's points you didn't even address in its entirety? I won't hold my breath.

Jesus Christ’s. I wonder if you’re going to realize your articles been debunked if I explain it to you for the 12th time. Clearly the problem is that you a re too stupid to know anything so explaining it again for you a 12th time will not work because you are too stupid to comprehend anything.
Don’t ask me to show how I debunked you when you quoting one of my posts that debunks you.
It wouldn’t matter if you did hold your breath because your brains already dead so it does not need Oxygen
So come back when your response to me debunking you isn’t “plz debunk me”
Also note that of your own admission you note that you do not address anything I say. SO remember that the next time you cry about your perceived notion that I’m not addressing you
I've went back and read every exchange between you and I. You debunked nothing. You replied with nonsensical emotional outbursts and nothing more. So it's time for you to put up or shut up. You don't even seem to comprehend what I have said. When I said it is ridiculous to try to compare man and animal in the realm of sexual behaviors, you seem to think its not but give no real reason why. I tell you the fact that we have an intellect far superior than animals and have logic and reason as opposed to just instincts, you go on to say i am assuming animals have no intelligence? You're too stupid to follow the conversation in any meaningful way, Corky. Mother Cats for instance, sometimes kill their kittens while playing with their babies because the hunting instinct overpowers their senses, idiot. Humans are able to sort these things through logic and reason. This shows the immense differences of how animal and man operate... That is one example why it's ridiculous to try to use animals as an indicator of what is normal for humans, you damn moron.

Just quit talking to me about this. You didn't debunk anything, you're not me tally capable to follow this level of intelligent discussion.
 
If being gay is normal why aren't humans Asexual?

That's a non-sequitur.

Non reproductive sexual activity is perfectly normal/natural in humans. Gay sex is non-reproductive, therefore it has as much claim to being a natural human activity as does heterosexual sex.
If being gay is normal why aren't humans Asexual that is the question you should answer the question or walk away from the discussion.

What does gay being normal have to do with "why aren't humans asexual"?
 
I'm not addressing any of your other stupid shit until you show me how you debunked an article who's points you didn't even address in its entirety? I won't hold my breath.

Jesus Christ’s. I wonder if you’re going to realize your articles been debunked if I explain it to you for the 12th time. Clearly the problem is that you a re too stupid to know anything so explaining it again for you a 12th time will not work because you are too stupid to comprehend anything.
Don’t ask me to show how I debunked you when you quoting one of my posts that debunks you.
It wouldn’t matter if you did hold your breath because your brains already dead so it does not need Oxygen
So come back when your response to me debunking you isn’t “plz debunk me”
Also note that of your own admission you note that you do not address anything I say. SO remember that the next time you cry about your perceived notion that I’m not addressing you
I've went back and read every exchange between you and I. You debunked nothing.
When you say read, perhaps you should use a dictionary so that you can understand what you’ve read.
You replied with nonsensical emotional outbursts and nothing more.
Furthermore plz explain how posting that 3 gay genes have been found is an emotion outburst.

So it's time for you to put up or shut up. You don't even seem to comprehend what I have said. When I said it is ridiculous to try to compare man and animal in the realm of sexual behaviors, you seem to think its not but give no real reason why.
Yes you said it was ridiculous to compare man with animals after it was found that your augment that gay humans are not natural because animals can’t be gay was debunked.
I tell you the fact that we have an intellect far superior than animals and have logic and reason as opposed to just instincts, you go on to say i am assuming animals have no intelligence?
No you told us that animals cannot not be rational. I then proved that animals are in fact rational and you respond with “shut up being rational isn’t rational. Perhaps the problem is that you say retarded shit and then you try to act like you dont say it
You're too stupid to follow the conversation in any meaningful way, Corky. Mother Cats for instance, sometimes kill their kittens while playing with their babies because the hunting instinct overpowers their senses, idiot.
Plz stop saying that things are not natural if you do not like them. As I said the definition of natural is not what Lcokejaw likes.

Humans are able to sort these things through logic and reason.
You aren't.
This shows the immense differences of how animal and man operate...
Do I have to post the list of animals that use logic and reason again for you again?

That is one example why it's ridiculous to try to use animals as an indicator of what is normal for humans, you damn moron.
You are the one who told us that its not natural for humans to be gay because animals cant be gay moron. Now since that stupid argument of yours was debunked you are flip-flopping
Furthermore as evident by you humans do not always make rational choices or say rational things. You saying they do is again you just being ignorant and retarded
Just quit talking to me about this. You didn't debunk anything, you're not me tally capable to follow this level of intelligent discussion.
Perhaps if you were intelligent we could have an intelligent discussion but sadly you aren’t
 
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Monroe County Man charged with Sodomy on ColumbiaMagazine.com


Monroe County Man charged with Sodomy

By TFC Billy Gregory, Public Affairs Officer
Kentucky State Police Post 15, Columbia, KY

COLUMBIA, KY - 43-year-old James A. Dicken of Tompkinsville, KY was arrested Sunday, April 29, 2012, at 8:01pmCT on Josh Butler Road in Monroe County. Dicken has been charged with Sodomy 1st in reference to a complaint made earlier today. He was lodged in the Monroe County Jail. Detective Mike Dubree is investigating.
 
There are no rights protecting illegal acts.

Actually there are rights that make acts illegal. Discriminating against people of a certain race for example, was made illegal because of rights for those people coming from the Constitution.


Illegal acts are not protected forms of rights.

Why not? This is where your slippery slope argument of 'rights given to us by the creator' fall over. Why give certain rights but not others?
 
Monroe County Man charged with Sodomy on ColumbiaMagazine.com


Monroe County Man charged with Sodomy

By TFC Billy Gregory, Public Affairs Officer
Kentucky State Police Post 15, Columbia, KY

COLUMBIA, KY - 43-year-old James A. Dicken of Tompkinsville, KY was arrested Sunday, April 29, 2012, at 8:01pmCT on Josh Butler Road in Monroe County. Dicken has been charged with Sodomy 1st in reference to a complaint made earlier today. He was lodged in the Monroe County Jail. Detective Mike Dubree is investigating.

Why am I not surprised.....cletus country...
 
BRISTOL, Va. --
A city man remains in jail today, accused of taking his 2-year-old son from home and holding his girlfriend at gunpoint for about an hour Thursday morning.

Caleb Taylor, 27, of Elmo Street, has been charged with abduction by force, forcible sodomy, domestic assault and use of a firearm in commission of a felony.

Man charged with abduction, forcible sodomy - full story - Pulvermedia.com
 
Starcraftz, there has been ZERO scientificallly proven or credible discoveries of a "gay gene", let alone 3 of them, Mr. Link Flooder. You're one of the common kinds of trolls on message boards, one I like to call a "link flooder". You come upon a thread and then run to google and just post link after link of whatever pops up and sit back in your chair with your arms folded with a stupid smirk on your face thinking you accomplished something, knowing full well no one has the time, nor are they interested in going through the 100 plus links you just posted to support your case. But if someone actually decides to go through them... Half of them winde up proving the opposite of what you were attempting to prove in the first place. Idiot is another word that fits you quite well. Anyway, back to the topic:
Homosexual Honesty - Gay Activist Tatchell Admits there is no Gay Gene

by Bill Muehlenberg
Homosexual Honesty » Bill Muehlenberg’s CultureWatch

It is nice to get a bit of honesty on the issue of homosexuality. It does not come our way very often in the mainstream media. And when this honesty comes from homosexual activists, it is even more refreshing. Indeed, when heterosexuals tell the truth about homosexuality, they are dismissed as homophobes. So what happens to homosexual truth tellers? Are they homophobic as well?

A very revealing case of homosexual honesty comes from Peter Tatchell, an Australian-born, British-based homosexual activist, who spills the beans on the "gay gene". There is none, he asserts, and says homosexual desire is not genetically determined.

Writing for Spiked online, June 24, 2008, he makes some very interesting remarks about homosexual determinism. He in fact sounds very much like, well, me. I have been saying similar things for years, and have been howled down by the homosexual lobby as bigoted, intolerant and homophobic. But it is nice to hear homosexuals saying similar things.

He says there may well be biological influence in one's sexuality, but nothing more. He argues that "an influence is not the same as a cause. Genes and hormones may predispose a person to one sexuality rather than another. But that's all. Predisposition and determination are two different things. There is a major problem with gay gene theory, and with all theories that posit the biological programming of sexual orientation. If heterosexuality and homosexuality are, indeed, genetically predetermined (and therefore mutually exclusive and unchangeable), how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can't. The reality is that queer and straight desires are far more ambiguous, blurred and overlapping than any theory of genetic causality can allow."

Indeed, he is honest enough to admit that the jury is still out on the science of all this: "The relative influence of biological versus social factors with regard to sexual orientation is still uncertain. What is, however, certain is that if gayness was primarily explainable in genetic terms we would expect it to appear in the same proportions, and in similar forms, in all cultures and all epochs. As the anthropologists Clellan Ford and Frank Beach demonstrated in Patterns Of Sexual Behaviour (1965), far from being cross-culturally uniform and stable, both the incidence and expressions of same-sex desire vary vastly between different societies."

He concludes his piece with this interesting remark: "The homophobes are thus, paradoxically, closer to the truth than many gay activists." Thank you Peter. Nice to have some positive affirmation here. Of course he does not go all the way and admit that people can leave their homosexual lifestyle for a heterosexual one. He says, "For most of us, it is impossible to subsequently change our sexual orientation". Notice that he does not say 'all of us', but 'most of us'. That is a very telling choice of word usage.

Tatchell is certainly right to debunk the gay gene myth. And he is not alone in such candid admissions. A number of other homosexual activists have also admitted to such truths. Consider Australian activist and Latrobe University lecturer, Dennis Altman, who wrote this in 1986: "To be Haitian or a hemophiliac is determined at birth, but being gay is an identity that is socially determined and involves personal choice. Even if, as many want to argue, one has no choice in experiencing homosexual desire, there is a wide choice of possible ways of acting out these feelings, from celibacy and denial . . . to self-affirmation and the adoption of a gay identity." "Being gay," says Altman, "is a choice".

Another Australian homosexual activist has said similar things about homosexuality and genetics: "I think the idea that sexuality is genetic is crap. There is absolutely no evidence for it at the moment, and I think it is unhealthy that people want to embrace this idea. It does reflect a desire to say, 'it's not our fault', as a way of deflecting our critics. We have achieved what we have achieved by defiance, not by concessions. I think we should be recruiting people to homosexuality. It's a great lifestyle and something everybody should have the right to experience. If you believe it's genetic, how are you going to make the effort?" Or as he put it elsewhere: "On the question of recruiting to homosexuality - well, of course, I am in favor of this. I believe homosexuality to be a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. . . . I am naturally keen to encourage people to participate in [the gay lifestyle]."

And a leading Australian feminist and lesbian has also made it clear that choice is a major component of the lifestyle. Melbourne University academic Sheila Jeffreys became a feminist in her twenties, when she was involved in "perfectly good" relationships with men. She then decided to become a lesbian: "At the time," she says, we "made the decision to become political lesbians, as we called it."

She says that "you can learn to be heterosexual and you can learn to be lesbian". When challenged by an interviewer that sexuality is more innate than that, she continues, "I don't think there's anything natural about sexuality; you do learn it. And you can unlearn it, go in a different direction, change it." She says that her own experience proves this, as does that of many other women who decided to switch to lesbianism in the '70s.

Other homosexuals have admitted that choice plays at least a partial role in the overall equation. Indeed, there is even an entire website devoted to those who say they have chosen the homosexual lifestyle. The site says it is "a radical gathering place for people who have chosen to be queer" ( Queer by Choice dot com ).

However, the tendency is to deny choice, to make it appear that homosexuals cannot help it, and to argue that any criticism of the gay lifestyle is as silly as criticism of being left-handed or red-haired. And this has been a deliberate strategy by homosexual activists. They have done a very good job to convince a gullible public that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change.

But that bluff needs to be challenged. I and others have challenged it. And it is quite refreshing when homosexual activists challenge it as well.

END

Foremost UK Gay Activist Admits there is No Gay Gene

By Hilary White,
LifeSite News
August 6, 2008 One of the untouchable dogmas of the homosexualist movement is the assertion of the existence of a "gay gene", or a genetic marker that causes same-sex attraction. The assertion of a genetic factor in homosexual preference has never been demonstrated by scientists and now at least one prominent campaigner in the British homosexualist movement has admitted this fact.

Peter Tatchell, an Australian-born British homosexual activist who founded the "direct action" group OutRage! that specialises in media stunts such as disrupting Christian religious services, wrote on Spiked Online that he agrees with the scientific consensus that there is no such thing as a "gay gene."

Contrary to the findings of some researchers who have tried to posit a purely genetic origin for same-sex attractions, Tatchell wrote, "Genes and hormones may predispose a person to one sexuality rather than another. But that’s all. Predisposition and determination are two different things."

Homosexual activists have adopted the "gay gene" theory to bolster their assertion that any objection on moral grounds to homosexual activity is akin to objecting to left-handedness or skin colour. It has supported the accusation that Christians and others who object to the homosexual movement are racists and bigots.

Tatchell even went as far as to acknowledge the existence of some who have changed their "sexual orientation." "If heterosexuality and homosexuality are, indeed, genetically predetermined… how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can’t."

Sexuality, he wrote, is "far more ambiguous, blurred and overlapping than any theory of genetic causality can allow."

"Examples of sexual flexibility… don’t square with genetic theories of rigid erotic predestination."

Bill Muehlenberg, a Christian writer and philosophy lecturer, called Tatchell’s admission a rare and "refreshing" and "very revealing case of homosexual honesty." Muehlenberg said that he has been "howled down" by homosexual lobbyists for years for saying the same things about putative homosexual determinism. Whoever is saying it, he wrote, the conclusion must be the debunking of the myth that homosexuals are "born that way" and cannot help, or change, their inclinations.

The "gay gene" theory has been used by gay activists "to deny choice, to make it appear that homosexuals cannot help it, and to argue that any criticism of the gay lifestyle is as silly as criticism of being left-handed or red-haired."

"And this has been a deliberate strategy by homosexual activists. They have done a very good job to convince a gullible public that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change."

END

VirtueOnline - Culture Wars - Homosexual Honesty : "No Gay Gene" -- Bill Muehlenberg


Star, youre years behind On your information. Please catch up before flapping your gums on any topic. Thanks sincerely!
 
Starcraftz, there has been ZERO scientificallly proven or credible discoveries of a "gay gene", let alone 3 of them, Mr. Link Flooder. You're one of the common kinds of trolls on message boards, one I like to call a "link flooder". You come upon a thread and then run to google and just post link after link of whatever pops up and sit back in your chair with your arms folded with a stupid smirk on your face thinking you accomplished something, knowing full well no one has the time, nor are they interested in going through the 100 plus links you just posted to support your case. But if someone actually decides to go through them... Half of them winde up proving the opposite of what you were attempting to prove in the first place. Idiot is another word that fits you quite well. Anyway, back to the topic:
Homosexual Honesty - Gay Activist Tatchell Admits there is no Gay Gene

by Bill Muehlenberg
Homosexual Honesty » Bill Muehlenberg’s CultureWatch

It is nice to get a bit of honesty on the issue of homosexuality. It does not come our way very often in the mainstream media. And when this honesty comes from homosexual activists, it is even more refreshing. Indeed, when heterosexuals tell the truth about homosexuality, they are dismissed as homophobes. So what happens to homosexual truth tellers? Are they homophobic as well?

A very revealing case of homosexual honesty comes from Peter Tatchell, an Australian-born, British-based homosexual activist, who spills the beans on the "gay gene". There is none, he asserts, and says homosexual desire is not genetically determined.

Writing for Spiked online, June 24, 2008, he makes some very interesting remarks about homosexual determinism. He in fact sounds very much like, well, me. I have been saying similar things for years, and have been howled down by the homosexual lobby as bigoted, intolerant and homophobic. But it is nice to hear homosexuals saying similar things.

He says there may well be biological influence in one's sexuality, but nothing more. He argues that "an influence is not the same as a cause. Genes and hormones may predispose a person to one sexuality rather than another. But that's all. Predisposition and determination are two different things. There is a major problem with gay gene theory, and with all theories that posit the biological programming of sexual orientation. If heterosexuality and homosexuality are, indeed, genetically predetermined (and therefore mutually exclusive and unchangeable), how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can't. The reality is that queer and straight desires are far more ambiguous, blurred and overlapping than any theory of genetic causality can allow."

Indeed, he is honest enough to admit that the jury is still out on the science of all this: "The relative influence of biological versus social factors with regard to sexual orientation is still uncertain. What is, however, certain is that if gayness was primarily explainable in genetic terms we would expect it to appear in the same proportions, and in similar forms, in all cultures and all epochs. As the anthropologists Clellan Ford and Frank Beach demonstrated in Patterns Of Sexual Behaviour (1965), far from being cross-culturally uniform and stable, both the incidence and expressions of same-sex desire vary vastly between different societies."

He concludes his piece with this interesting remark: "The homophobes are thus, paradoxically, closer to the truth than many gay activists." Thank you Peter. Nice to have some positive affirmation here. Of course he does not go all the way and admit that people can leave their homosexual lifestyle for a heterosexual one. He says, "For most of us, it is impossible to subsequently change our sexual orientation". Notice that he does not say 'all of us', but 'most of us'. That is a very telling choice of word usage.

Tatchell is certainly right to debunk the gay gene myth. And he is not alone in such candid admissions. A number of other homosexual activists have also admitted to such truths. Consider Australian activist and Latrobe University lecturer, Dennis Altman, who wrote this in 1986: "To be Haitian or a hemophiliac is determined at birth, but being gay is an identity that is socially determined and involves personal choice. Even if, as many want to argue, one has no choice in experiencing homosexual desire, there is a wide choice of possible ways of acting out these feelings, from celibacy and denial . . . to self-affirmation and the adoption of a gay identity." "Being gay," says Altman, "is a choice".

Another Australian homosexual activist has said similar things about homosexuality and genetics: "I think the idea that sexuality is genetic is crap. There is absolutely no evidence for it at the moment, and I think it is unhealthy that people want to embrace this idea. It does reflect a desire to say, 'it's not our fault', as a way of deflecting our critics. We have achieved what we have achieved by defiance, not by concessions. I think we should be recruiting people to homosexuality. It's a great lifestyle and something everybody should have the right to experience. If you believe it's genetic, how are you going to make the effort?" Or as he put it elsewhere: "On the question of recruiting to homosexuality - well, of course, I am in favor of this. I believe homosexuality to be a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. . . . I am naturally keen to encourage people to participate in [the gay lifestyle]."

And a leading Australian feminist and lesbian has also made it clear that choice is a major component of the lifestyle. Melbourne University academic Sheila Jeffreys became a feminist in her twenties, when she was involved in "perfectly good" relationships with men. She then decided to become a lesbian: "At the time," she says, we "made the decision to become political lesbians, as we called it."

She says that "you can learn to be heterosexual and you can learn to be lesbian". When challenged by an interviewer that sexuality is more innate than that, she continues, "I don't think there's anything natural about sexuality; you do learn it. And you can unlearn it, go in a different direction, change it." She says that her own experience proves this, as does that of many other women who decided to switch to lesbianism in the '70s.

Other homosexuals have admitted that choice plays at least a partial role in the overall equation. Indeed, there is even an entire website devoted to those who say they have chosen the homosexual lifestyle. The site says it is "a radical gathering place for people who have chosen to be queer" ( Queer by Choice dot com ).

However, the tendency is to deny choice, to make it appear that homosexuals cannot help it, and to argue that any criticism of the gay lifestyle is as silly as criticism of being left-handed or red-haired. And this has been a deliberate strategy by homosexual activists. They have done a very good job to convince a gullible public that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change.

But that bluff needs to be challenged. I and others have challenged it. And it is quite refreshing when homosexual activists challenge it as well.

END

Foremost UK Gay Activist Admits there is No Gay Gene

By Hilary White,
LifeSite News
August 6, 2008 One of the untouchable dogmas of the homosexualist movement is the assertion of the existence of a "gay gene", or a genetic marker that causes same-sex attraction. The assertion of a genetic factor in homosexual preference has never been demonstrated by scientists and now at least one prominent campaigner in the British homosexualist movement has admitted this fact.

Peter Tatchell, an Australian-born British homosexual activist who founded the "direct action" group OutRage! that specialises in media stunts such as disrupting Christian religious services, wrote on Spiked Online that he agrees with the scientific consensus that there is no such thing as a "gay gene."

Contrary to the findings of some researchers who have tried to posit a purely genetic origin for same-sex attractions, Tatchell wrote, "Genes and hormones may predispose a person to one sexuality rather than another. But that’s all. Predisposition and determination are two different things."

Homosexual activists have adopted the "gay gene" theory to bolster their assertion that any objection on moral grounds to homosexual activity is akin to objecting to left-handedness or skin colour. It has supported the accusation that Christians and others who object to the homosexual movement are racists and bigots.

Tatchell even went as far as to acknowledge the existence of some who have changed their "sexual orientation." "If heterosexuality and homosexuality are, indeed, genetically predetermined… how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can’t."

Sexuality, he wrote, is "far more ambiguous, blurred and overlapping than any theory of genetic causality can allow."

"Examples of sexual flexibility… don’t square with genetic theories of rigid erotic predestination."

Bill Muehlenberg, a Christian writer and philosophy lecturer, called Tatchell’s admission a rare and "refreshing" and "very revealing case of homosexual honesty." Muehlenberg said that he has been "howled down" by homosexual lobbyists for years for saying the same things about putative homosexual determinism. Whoever is saying it, he wrote, the conclusion must be the debunking of the myth that homosexuals are "born that way" and cannot help, or change, their inclinations.

The "gay gene" theory has been used by gay activists "to deny choice, to make it appear that homosexuals cannot help it, and to argue that any criticism of the gay lifestyle is as silly as criticism of being left-handed or red-haired."

"And this has been a deliberate strategy by homosexual activists. They have done a very good job to convince a gullible public that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change."

END
 
Actually there are rights that make acts illegal. Discriminating against people of a certain race for example, was made illegal because of rights for those people coming from the Constitution.


Illegal acts are not protected forms of rights.

Why not? This is where your slippery slope argument of 'rights given to us by the creator' fall over. Why give certain rights but not others?

Why did your PM finally come out in support of Gay marriage what was he fearing?

Illegal acts are not protected by rights
 
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BTW, Clint Eastwood is a rightie.
 

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