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- Nov 8, 2011
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You just can't read anything without jumping to the wrong conclusions, that's a problem with you.Now you have gone from forcing people to vote, to making it hard for them not to, to civic duty which you are somehow trying to blame conservatives for in some imagination to have eroded.Ever heard of "civic duty"? Is the thing that built America now some sort of commie plot? This traditional American value is just about dead and conservatives killed it. The last vestige of this is jury duty. I have been summoned many times. God how people bitch about this small favor our community asks of us.So now your changing your mind from making it mandatory to making it difficult to vote or not vote? How exactly are you going to make it difficult to not vote?Details. Most of the reason people do not vote is that it's often a pain in the ass. If voting was quick and easy and didn't involve a sacrifice in time or money or standing out in the cold there would be no excuse not to vote. Voting could be made to be an opt-out practice where there is no penalty at all for not voting but opting out would be every bit as difficult as voting.So what is your idea? Round everyone up at gunpoint force them into trucks and run them down to the polls?It's certainly doable to make voting mandatory. The American people would have to confront the fact that they are citizens of a nation every couple of years. Making it work is just a matter of organization, technology and a commitment to making America truly great. We deserve a voting system that befits our stature in world, not this special interest corporate crapfest we endure every two years.I don't think I would go as far as making voting mandatory but I wouldn't mind giving any person time off to vote if they wanted it. I would want voter ID also. Unless you are worried that minorities are too stupid to obtain one or continue to hold onto.Force? What would you force Americans to do if you could rewire American democracy? All I am asking is that Americans participate in their government. It's a small burden that would result in a much better run country. Voting would have to be something like a national holiday where every effort would be made to make voting easy and quick.So you want to force us to vote?Make voting mandatory. Make tampering with the vote a crime equal to treason.
Maybe if they don't show up to vote don't allow them to have a job?
Or maybe remove them from the country?
You do realize that people tend to be come hard headed when forced to do things they don't want to do? They not only have a bad habit of doing a sloppy job but at times they tend to push back.
Tax someone for not voting? Who is responsible for the paperwork and the law suits when someone gets taxed because the paperwork is wrong?
Is there another way to make it difficult to not vote say forcing people to give up fulltime employment and go to part Time?
Now you are somehow complaining about jury duty. None of this has been any serious talking point it has been move things farther and farther away from the original post.
I take it you really don't have any ideas you are just parroting things you have heard.