In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

[Correll]

We did. We provided the weapons that all of our allies used during the war.

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

The US lost 291,000 soldiers.

For nothing. It was certainly not in America's best interests to get involved in WWII.

A nazi dominated EUrope would not have been in America's best interest.

Especially once the Nazi's developed nuclear weapons.

 

[bripat9643]

We did. We provided the weapons that all of our allies used during the war.

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

The US lost 291,000 soldiers.

For nothing. It was certainly not in America's best interests to get involved in WWII.

Wiki says we lost 407,000.

 

[Correll]

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

Maybe they should not have entered WWII as allies of Adolf Hitler.

I stand by Patton's motto. Americans win by making the other dumb bastard die for their country.

You and Stalin can believe otherwise.

That we did

We allowed the Soviets to do the dying and we ended up with half of Europe

"We ended up with half of Europe"?

Are you insane?

WWII was not a war of conquest, at least not for US.

Europeans ended up with Half of Europe. The Soviets ended up with the other half.

Apparently RightWinger thinks Germany and France are now U.S. territory.

It is the height of dishonesty or insanity to look at Western Europe allied with the US during the Cold War, and Eastern Europe occupied and oppressed by the Soviets and not to be able to see a difference.

 

[bripat9643]

We did. We provided the weapons that all of our allies used during the war.

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

The US lost 291,000 soldiers.

For nothing. It was certainly not in America's best interests to get involved in WWII.

A nazi dominated EUrope would not have been in America's best interest.

Especially once the Nazi's developed nuclear weapons.

Instead we got a Soviet dominated Europe with nuclear weapons.

 

[Muhammed]

We did. We provided the weapons that all of our allies used during the war.

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

The US lost 291,000 soldiers.

For nothing. It was certainly not in America's best interests to get involved in WWII.

A nazi dominated EUrope would not have been in America's best interest.

Especially once the Nazi's developed nuclear weapons.

It was none of our business. FDR was one evil motherfucker.

 

[Correll]

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

The US lost 291,000 soldiers.

For nothing. It was certainly not in America's best interests to get involved in WWII.

A nazi dominated EUrope would not have been in America's best interest.

Especially once the Nazi's developed nuclear weapons.

Instead we got a Soviet dominated Europe with nuclear weapons.

Well, yes. I certainly have questions about FDR's apparent lack of concern about the Post War Balance of Power.

 

[Pogo]

Uhh... yeah I guess. Actually in such contrast to, oh, the entire rest of the human race.

Need a clue? Here ya go.

>>
DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

• Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerating your achievements and talents
• Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
• Requiring constant admiration
• Having a sense of entitlement
• Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
• Taking advantage of others to get what you want
• Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Being envious of others and believing others envy you
• Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

... If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. <<​

--- Sound like anybody you've heard of lately?

Yeah, Hitlery Clinton.......read "Dereliction Of Duty" by Buzz Patterson...he was much harder on Hitlery than he was Bill "drop trou". Patterson carried the nuclear football for Bill "drop trou" for two years. He saw it all and Hitlery was nothing but a phony and spiteful bitch.

Another asshat who can't tell the difference between Donald Rump -- the topic, hello --- and not-Donald Rump.

I don't know what we are getting with Trump, but I guaran-fucking-tee you that I know what we are getting with Hitlery....you want to cast aspersions at Trump while trying to protect that c---t Hitlery because you are uneducated on what she is about and what she has done...it's all about tribalism to you and not what might free us from this debt slavery system. I am so much more aware of what is going on than you...this is what I do all day every day. I am not a fan of either party because I believe both are bought and paid for. The fact that the establishment on both sides are attacking him gives me a sliver of hope that Trump might be the start of freeing us of the UCC and the central bank that controls this insane slavery system.

What in the wide world of blue fuck is your obsession with "Hillary"?
Especially in a thread about Rump?

The Rump does not appreciate you sending your attention elsewhere. The Rump says you "better watch out -- you have a lot to hide!" Again -- his words, not mine....

What is your obsession with Trump? You are lamely attempting to marginalize Trump when it will result in the election of a c---t like Hillary and I know what we are getting with her...that is my point and anyone with as low an IQ like you should be able to figure that one out......maybe I am giving you too much credit.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm.... what exactly is the TOPIC here?

Want a hint? Check the title. See anything there about any "Hillary"?
You haven't touched the topic yet. All you do is try to change the subject.

Why is that exactly?

 

[paulitician]

A President who actually wants to put American Citizens' interests first? WHAAAT!! My God, what a RACIST SEXIST NAZI!!!

 

[Pogo]

So no list of where US forces were posted in an act of altruism?

Here is a Menu choose your Favorite...we only kill folks for "Noble Reasons"...

Damn.

We're slacking on Mongolia, Scandinavia and Madagascar

I'm sure Rump's planning to take care of that. With gold-plated golf courses.

 

[Pogo]

The Wing nuts say "do not trust Big Government...if Big Government tells you there is a Global warming perils its all lies do not listen t Big Government"

However

If Big Government makes up a bunch of lies in order to launch us into war the very same "Government Skeptics" are all waving Flags and going "Kill Kill we want to Kill eat dead burnt bodies have blood guts and veins in our teeth" Yaeeeh Big Government..."

Trump stands up to big govt!!

And yet runs and hides from Megyn Kelly.

 

[Pogo]

In Donald Trumps worldview, everyone listens to him because he is Trump

And that's pretty accurate thinking on his part. That's why the networks are always trying to interview him: because he brings in a lot of viewers.

It is only accurate in Trumps mind

The rest of the world laughs at Trump

No, it's not in his mind, it's in the ratings. Remember Trump is more than just a successful business man. He spent a lot of time in the entertainment world as well. He knows ratings, he understands what ratings mean for revenue, and he understand that when he is on the tube, ratings go up.

That's hardly what I would say is just in his mind.

Yes he does, but ---- do you?

Having been in broadcasting for four decades I never tire of pointing this out -- ratings do not measure assent; they measure attention. And that is after all what Rump's quest is every moment of every day --- attention to himself. It's the prison a Narcissistic Personality Disorder enslaves itself to (and the thinskinned Twitter meltdowns are the other side of that same coin).

But attention is not "assent". Drivers on a highway will all slow down and devote attention to the overturned tractor trailer engulfed in flames --- that in no way means they "agree" with the idea of overturned tractor trailers engulfed in flames.


Tragically, what this all means in the context of political campaigning is that we get a wide swath of the Unwashed "following" and even voting for a media stick figure on the basis that "I've heard of that guy --- he's been on TV".

 

[Pogo]

In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

The guy with the ties from China? The one whose hats are made by "rapists"?

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? In Rump's worldview Donald T. Rump comes first, last, and everywhere in between. It's always been that way and we have absolutely no indication whatsoever that it will not always be so.

Yes, in such contrast to Hillary Clinton.

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

• Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerating your achievements and talents
• Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
• Requiring constant admiration
• Having a sense of entitlement
• Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
• Taking advantage of others to get what you want
• Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Being envious of others and believing others envy you
• Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

How many of those actually fit Trump? Just because he is rich and successfully doesn't make him a narcissist, it just makes you a loser in comparison.

Narcissists rarely achieve success, because they think they are perfect to begin with. Trump definitely doesn't have the disorder and you know it. Pathetic.

Got to love the internet psychologists.

Every last one of them, dramatically. You'd have to be enswamped in self-delusion to claim not to see it. His blusterfluffing image should appear in the dictionary next to the term -- he completely embodies the syndrome.

Pick any trait out of that list. Any trait at all. I'll give you at least one, and probably several, well-known and well-publicized example(s).

And here --- you seem to have mysteriously cut this part of my post out.... you can use any of these as well:

>> ... If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. <<​

 

[Norman]

In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

The guy with the ties from China? The one whose hats are made by "rapists"?

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? In Rump's worldview Donald T. Rump comes first, last, and everywhere in between. It's always been that way and we have absolutely no indication whatsoever that it will not always be so.

Yes, in such contrast to Hillary Clinton.

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

• Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerating your achievements and talents
• Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
• Requiring constant admiration
• Having a sense of entitlement
• Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
• Taking advantage of others to get what you want
• Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Being envious of others and believing others envy you
• Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

How many of those actually fit Trump? Just because he is rich and successfully doesn't make him a narcissist, it just makes you a loser in comparison.

Narcissists rarely achieve success, because they think they are perfect to begin with. Trump definitely doesn't have the disorder and you know it. Pathetic.

Got to love the internet psychologists.

Every last one of them, dramatically. You'd have to be enswamped in self-delusion to claim not to see it. His blusterfluffing image should appear in the dictionary next to the term -- he completely embodies the syndrome.

Pick any trait out of that list. Any trait at all. I'll give you at least one, and probably several, well-known and well-publicized example(s).

And here --- you seem to have mysteriously cut this part of my post out.... you can use any of these as well:

>> ... If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. <<​

Before you, as a professional internet psychologist, attempt diagnosing people of difficult personality disorders. May I suggest that you first diagnose yourself?

Intellectual Disability

"One way to measure intellectual functioning is an IQ test. Generally, an IQ test score of around 70 or as high as 75 indicates a limitation in intellectual functioning."

It's time to take that IQ test, and then seek help accordingly.

 

[rightwinger]

More propaganda slurped eagerly without consideration. You exported T-34s and Sturmoviks I suppose. Anyway, enough of this, India's match against Australia in the World Twenty Over Cricket Championship under way now.

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

Maybe they should not have entered WWII as allies of Adolf Hitler.

I stand by Patton's motto. Americans win by making the other dumb bastard die for their country.

You and Stalin can believe otherwise.

That we did

We allowed the Soviets to do the dying and we ended up with half of Europe

"We ended up with half of Europe"?

Are you insane?

WWII was not a war of conquest, at least not for US.

Europeans ended up with Half of Europe. The Soviets ended up with the other half.

We ended up with the governments we wanted and a NATO alliance. A much better option than a Nazi occupied Western Europe

 

[Pogo]

In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

The guy with the ties from China? The one whose hats are made by "rapists"?

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? In Rump's worldview Donald T. Rump comes first, last, and everywhere in between. It's always been that way and we have absolutely no indication whatsoever that it will not always be so.

Yes, in such contrast to Hillary Clinton.

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

• Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerating your achievements and talents
• Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
• Requiring constant admiration
• Having a sense of entitlement
• Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
• Taking advantage of others to get what you want
• Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Being envious of others and believing others envy you
• Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

How many of those actually fit Trump? Just because he is rich and successfully doesn't make him a narcissist, it just makes you a loser in comparison.

Narcissists rarely achieve success, because they think they are perfect to begin with. Trump definitely doesn't have the disorder and you know it. Pathetic.

Got to love the internet psychologists.

Every last one of them, dramatically. You'd have to be enswamped in self-delusion to claim not to see it. His blusterfluffing image should appear in the dictionary next to the term -- he completely embodies the syndrome.

Pick any trait out of that list. Any trait at all. I'll give you at least one, and probably several, well-known and well-publicized example(s).

And here --- you seem to have mysteriously cut this part of my post out.... you can use any of these as well:

>> ... If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. <<​

Before you, as a professional internet psychologist, attempt diagnosing people of difficult personality disorders. May I suggest that you first diagnose yourself?

Intellectual Disability

"One way to measure intellectual functioning is an IQ test. Generally, an IQ test score of around 70 or as high as 75 indicates a limitation in intellectual functioning."

It's time to take that IQ test, and then seek help accordingly.

Bravo. Yet another compete deflection, but this time without the use of the word "Hillary".

You don't dare to take the challenge then.
That's probably wise.

 

[Correll]

The Wing nuts say "do not trust Big Government...if Big Government tells you there is a Global warming perils its all lies do not listen t Big Government"

However

If Big Government makes up a bunch of lies in order to launch us into war the very same "Government Skeptics" are all waving Flags and going "Kill Kill we want to Kill eat dead burnt bodies have blood guts and veins in our teeth" Yaeeeh Big Government..."

Trump stands up to big govt!!

And yet runs and hides from Megyn Kelly.

Agreeing to play a game that you know is stacked against you is an Act of a Fool, not Bravery.

 

[Correll]

We exported millions of tons to the USSR. Virtually ever truck they used was American. We also exported tanks and airplanes. We sent them 6,500 aircraft alone, and about 1000 tanks. We also sent them huge amounts of raw materials, medical supplies, or whatever. You can find a complete listing here

Complete List of Lend Lease to Russia including atomic materials

There is absolutely no way the USSR could have survived the war without U.S. aid.

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

Maybe they should not have entered WWII as allies of Adolf Hitler.

I stand by Patton's motto. Americans win by making the other dumb bastard die for their country.

You and Stalin can believe otherwise.

That we did

We allowed the Soviets to do the dying and we ended up with half of Europe

"We ended up with half of Europe"?

Are you insane?

WWII was not a war of conquest, at least not for US.

Europeans ended up with Half of Europe. The Soviets ended up with the other half.

We ended up with the governments we wanted and a NATO alliance. A much better option than a Nazi occupied Western Europe

The nations that fell in the half of Europe that were liberated by the US ended up with the governments that the people of those nations wanted.

That's the US version of "Self interest".

The Soviets built an Empire in the half of the Europe that they "liberated".

 

[Norman]

The Wing nuts say "do not trust Big Government...if Big Government tells you there is a Global warming perils its all lies do not listen t Big Government"

However

If Big Government makes up a bunch of lies in order to launch us into war the very same "Government Skeptics" are all waving Flags and going "Kill Kill we want to Kill eat dead burnt bodies have blood guts and veins in our teeth" Yaeeeh Big Government..."

Trump stands up to big govt!!

And yet runs and hides from Megyn Kelly.

Agreeing to play a game that you know is stacked against you is an Act of a Fool, not Bravery.

Indeed. Thankfully Trump is actually smart. Same can't be said of a typical liberal, unfortunately.

He's afraid of megyn kelly my ass. I bet she actually doesn't hate Trump anyway and like many is just having trouble not thinking about his alpha manhood all day.

 

[rightwinger]

We provided tons of materiel
They provided gallons of blood

Maybe they should not have entered WWII as allies of Adolf Hitler.

I stand by Patton's motto. Americans win by making the other dumb bastard die for their country.

You and Stalin can believe otherwise.

That we did

We allowed the Soviets to do the dying and we ended up with half of Europe

"We ended up with half of Europe"?

Are you insane?

WWII was not a war of conquest, at least not for US.

Europeans ended up with Half of Europe. The Soviets ended up with the other half.

We ended up with the governments we wanted and a NATO alliance. A much better option than a Nazi occupied Western Europe

The nations that fell in the half of Europe that were liberated by the US ended up with the governments that the people of those nations wanted.

That's the US version of "Self interest".

The Soviets built an Empire in the half of the Europe that they "liberated".

Very true...and we couldn't have gotten the Western Europe we wanted without the Soviets defeating the Nazis in the Eastern front

 

[Correll]

Maybe they should not have entered WWII as allies of Adolf Hitler.

I stand by Patton's motto. Americans win by making the other dumb bastard die for their country.

You and Stalin can believe otherwise.

That we did

We allowed the Soviets to do the dying and we ended up with half of Europe

"We ended up with half of Europe"?

Are you insane?

WWII was not a war of conquest, at least not for US.

Europeans ended up with Half of Europe. The Soviets ended up with the other half.

We ended up with the governments we wanted and a NATO alliance. A much better option than a Nazi occupied Western Europe

The nations that fell in the half of Europe that were liberated by the US ended up with the governments that the people of those nations wanted.

That's the US version of "Self interest".

The Soviets built an Empire in the half of the Europe that they "liberated".

Very true...and we couldn't have gotten the Western Europe we wanted without the Soviets defeating the Nazis in the Eastern front

We didn't WANT Western Europe.

THe stated intent of Yalta was that ALL OF EUROPE would be free.

That is what we wanted.