Indiana school superintendent charged after pretending sick student was her son to get him treatment

[Soupnazi630]

Yes actually if that kid was not one of his own

He only helped his own people meaning believers

Not true, where did you get that? Everyone He helped was basically Jews; there were no "Christians" yet, to speak of. And He didn't help just Jews; he also spoke to the Samaritan woman, the Canaanite woman....

And they all believed in him

He never helped a non believer

Pay attention to details when you read the book

Well of course. He wasn't going to heal someone against their will, if that's what you mean. God is never a God of force. For Jesus to heal a person who did "Not believe in Him" means He would approach a skeptical person maybe not even desirous of healing from Him and "force" the healing. Jesus doesn't do that. Jesus WOULD even heal if there was faith with some doubt mixed in ("I believe; help me in my unbelief!") but forced healings? Nope

I do not mean that

I mean what I said he strictly helped those who believed in him and had faith

Of course. Because to help those who didn't believe in Him, who did not have faith, would have been to force Himself on them. God does not do that. Neither does Jesus. You are free to go your way.

Regardless of the why he was discriminatory and selective.

 

[SweetSue92]

Jesus was a myth and under your sick and inferior system doctors are forced to work the way others dictate

Your Doctors work under the direction of cororate goons. Thats why they turn away sick children.

They work for who they choose to work for and becoming a doctor does not make one a slave who owes his or her labor to others

Corporations work through voluntary trade not violent force as your system does.

I have already shown you that our Doctors can choose to work for themselves. Therefore your "slave" comments are risible. Please show me this violent force you froth about.

It is a government program

By definition all government programs are rooted in force and violence


You have shown no such thing.

Post 17

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Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So Jesus would have turned away a sick child ?

Jesus would not have, Tommy. But Jesus is no longer with us, here, in the flesh. He is seated at the Right Hand of the Father at the moment, see. What he said about the government is this: give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. That means, to me, to gov't you give the bare minimum and you give to charity apart from government.

In any case my former statement stands. It's those who read the words of Jesus the least and who seek to know Him the least who always crow about "THIS IS WHAT JESUS WOULD WANT". It's insulting Tommy, you probably little know how prideful it is.

I am glad that you accept the Christian ethos behind socialism. Its an implicit rejection of the American dog eat dog culture. You just havent realised that yet.

More shoving words in people's mouths Tommy. If you want to know why your posts are so reviled on these boards, that's why. The tactic is beyond juvenile, it's hostile. The "I'm glad", followed by stating something that you KNOW the poster doesn't mean, is nasty. Stop it.

Socialism is not only not Christian, it is patently anti-Christian. Nothing in the Bible ever said to pawn off your charity on the government. That's a fail.

But you have already accepted that Jesus would not have turned away this sick child. Neither would the NHS. They are on the same page.

Jesus is the Son of God, Tommy. His resources are limitless. He never "runs out". If any adult would have brought this child to Jesus, Jesus--the Judge of all mankind--would have been able to ascertain whether the human was on the up and up. To perfectly judge this.

Jesus is not the NHS. The NHS is not Jesus.

Everyone---above is the very problem with Leftists. They really, honestly think Utopia can happen and Big Daddy Government is "on the same page" as Jesus.

God. Help. Us.

I never claimed that the NHS was Jesus. You build a straw man.

But helping those in need is a basic Christian tenet and that is what the NHS does. The Good Samaritan never asked for a policy number.

 

[SweetSue92]

Not true, where did you get that? Everyone He helped was basically Jews; there were no "Christians" yet, to speak of. And He didn't help just Jews; he also spoke to the Samaritan woman, the Canaanite woman....

And they all believed in him

He never helped a non believer

Pay attention to details when you read the book

Well of course. He wasn't going to heal someone against their will, if that's what you mean. God is never a God of force. For Jesus to heal a person who did "Not believe in Him" means He would approach a skeptical person maybe not even desirous of healing from Him and "force" the healing. Jesus doesn't do that. Jesus WOULD even heal if there was faith with some doubt mixed in ("I believe; help me in my unbelief!") but forced healings? Nope

I do not mean that

I mean what I said he strictly helped those who believed in him and had faith

Of course. Because to help those who didn't believe in Him, who did not have faith, would have been to force Himself on them. God does not do that. Neither does Jesus. You are free to go your way.

Regardless of the why he was discriminatory and selective.

Yes. God is discriminatory and selective. But you have a choice. That's the way it works. Salvation will not be forced on you. Take it or leave it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Your Doctors work under the direction of cororate goons. Thats why they turn away sick children.

They work for who they choose to work for and becoming a doctor does not make one a slave who owes his or her labor to others

Corporations work through voluntary trade not violent force as your system does.

I have already shown you that our Doctors can choose to work for themselves. Therefore your "slave" comments are risible. Please show me this violent force you froth about.

It is a government program

By definition all government programs are rooted in force and violence


You have shown no such thing.

Post 17

Private London GP | Same Day Appointments Only £39
Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Jesus would not have, Tommy. But Jesus is no longer with us, here, in the flesh. He is seated at the Right Hand of the Father at the moment, see. What he said about the government is this: give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. That means, to me, to gov't you give the bare minimum and you give to charity apart from government.

In any case my former statement stands. It's those who read the words of Jesus the least and who seek to know Him the least who always crow about "THIS IS WHAT JESUS WOULD WANT". It's insulting Tommy, you probably little know how prideful it is.

I am glad that you accept the Christian ethos behind socialism. Its an implicit rejection of the American dog eat dog culture. You just havent realised that yet.

More shoving words in people's mouths Tommy. If you want to know why your posts are so reviled on these boards, that's why. The tactic is beyond juvenile, it's hostile. The "I'm glad", followed by stating something that you KNOW the poster doesn't mean, is nasty. Stop it.

Socialism is not only not Christian, it is patently anti-Christian. Nothing in the Bible ever said to pawn off your charity on the government. That's a fail.

But you have already accepted that Jesus would not have turned away this sick child. Neither would the NHS. They are on the same page.

Jesus is the Son of God, Tommy. His resources are limitless. He never "runs out". If any adult would have brought this child to Jesus, Jesus--the Judge of all mankind--would have been able to ascertain whether the human was on the up and up. To perfectly judge this.

Jesus is not the NHS. The NHS is not Jesus.

Everyone---above is the very problem with Leftists. They really, honestly think Utopia can happen and Big Daddy Government is "on the same page" as Jesus.

God. Help. Us.

I never claimed that the NHS was Jesus. You build a straw man.

But helping those in need is a basic Christian tenet and that is what the NHS does. The Good Samaritan never asked for a policy number.

Wrong wrong and more wrong

Jesus never said take from some and give to others and force others to help others.

That is precisely what your system does.

You get no credit or respect when using to the state to replace charity and genorosity.

It is not compassionate to take money from some to give to others it is strictly theft and violence and makes you a hypocrite.


Robin hood was no hero he was a theif criminal and bastard.

 

[SweetSue92]

Jesus would not have, Tommy. But Jesus is no longer with us, here, in the flesh. He is seated at the Right Hand of the Father at the moment, see. What he said about the government is this: give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. That means, to me, to gov't you give the bare minimum and you give to charity apart from government.

In any case my former statement stands. It's those who read the words of Jesus the least and who seek to know Him the least who always crow about "THIS IS WHAT JESUS WOULD WANT". It's insulting Tommy, you probably little know how prideful it is.

I am glad that you accept the Christian ethos behind socialism. Its an implicit rejection of the American dog eat dog culture. You just havent realised that yet.

More shoving words in people's mouths Tommy. If you want to know why your posts are so reviled on these boards, that's why. The tactic is beyond juvenile, it's hostile. The "I'm glad", followed by stating something that you KNOW the poster doesn't mean, is nasty. Stop it.

Socialism is not only not Christian, it is patently anti-Christian. Nothing in the Bible ever said to pawn off your charity on the government. That's a fail.

But you have already accepted that Jesus would not have turned away this sick child. Neither would the NHS. They are on the same page.

Jesus is the Son of God, Tommy. His resources are limitless. He never "runs out". If any adult would have brought this child to Jesus, Jesus--the Judge of all mankind--would have been able to ascertain whether the human was on the up and up. To perfectly judge this.

Jesus is not the NHS. The NHS is not Jesus.

Everyone---above is the very problem with Leftists. They really, honestly think Utopia can happen and Big Daddy Government is "on the same page" as Jesus.

God. Help. Us.

I never claimed that the NHS was Jesus. You build a straw man.

But helping those in need is a basic Christian tenet and that is what the NHS does. The Good Samaritan never asked for a policy number.

The Good Samaritan helped the man directly. He did not send money to some far away city via this bureaucracy and that bureaucracy and give the Samaritan some kind of NHS card and say, here, get yourself to this clinic. Charity is supposed to be more direct than that.

 

[Soupnazi630]

They work for who they choose to work for and becoming a doctor does not make one a slave who owes his or her labor to others

Corporations work through voluntary trade not violent force as your system does.

I have already shown you that our Doctors can choose to work for themselves. Therefore your "slave" comments are risible. Please show me this violent force you froth about.

It is a government program

By definition all government programs are rooted in force and violence


You have shown no such thing.

Post 17

Private London GP | Same Day Appointments Only £39
Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

You failed.

 

[Likkmee]

this is the kind of action that warrants a pardon

An Indiana school superintendent was arrested for helping out a sick student by putting him on her health insurance

And the arresting officer" just doing my job maam" needs a shotgun blast to the throat and his house burned down

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I have already shown you that our Doctors can choose to work for themselves. Therefore your "slave" comments are risible. Please show me this violent force you froth about.

It is a government program

By definition all government programs are rooted in force and violence


You have shown no such thing.

Post 17

Private London GP | Same Day Appointments Only £39
Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

You failed.

No I didnt. You claimed that our Doctors are slaves to the system. i have shown you that they work for the NHS through choice.
In light of this you should withdraw your ill judged comments.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is a government program

By definition all government programs are rooted in force and violence


You have shown no such thing.

Post 17

Private London GP | Same Day Appointments Only £39
Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

You failed.

No I didnt. You claimed that our Doctors are slaves to the system. i have shown you that they work for the NHS through choice.
In light of this you should withdraw your ill judged comments.

Yes you did and massively

You ignore that under your failed and inferior system people are forced to help others.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's always fun when people that don't know Christ claim what Christ would do

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I am glad that you accept the Christian ethos behind socialism. Its an implicit rejection of the American dog eat dog culture. You just havent realised that yet.

More shoving words in people's mouths Tommy. If you want to know why your posts are so reviled on these boards, that's why. The tactic is beyond juvenile, it's hostile. The "I'm glad", followed by stating something that you KNOW the poster doesn't mean, is nasty. Stop it.

Socialism is not only not Christian, it is patently anti-Christian. Nothing in the Bible ever said to pawn off your charity on the government. That's a fail.

But you have already accepted that Jesus would not have turned away this sick child. Neither would the NHS. They are on the same page.

Jesus is the Son of God, Tommy. His resources are limitless. He never "runs out". If any adult would have brought this child to Jesus, Jesus--the Judge of all mankind--would have been able to ascertain whether the human was on the up and up. To perfectly judge this.

Jesus is not the NHS. The NHS is not Jesus.

Everyone---above is the very problem with Leftists. They really, honestly think Utopia can happen and Big Daddy Government is "on the same page" as Jesus.

God. Help. Us.

I never claimed that the NHS was Jesus. You build a straw man.

But helping those in need is a basic Christian tenet and that is what the NHS does. The Good Samaritan never asked for a policy number.

The Good Samaritan helped the man directly. He did not send money to some far away city via this bureaucracy and that bureaucracy and give the Samaritan some kind of NHS card and say, here, get yourself to this clinic. Charity is supposed to be more direct than that.

The NHS is not a charity and nor is it free. But,like the Good Samaritan, it does help people directly, as Jesus would have wanted.

These are the principles of the NHS -

• that it meet the needs of everyone
• that it be free at the point of delivery
• that it be based on clinical need, not ability to pay

It is a lot closer to Christian principles than a for profit clinic that turns away sick children. The founder of the NHS, Nye Bevan, was the son of a Baptist father and a Methodist mother. He was totally in tune with hat was the moral and ethical thing to do.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Post 17

Private London GP | Same Day Appointments Only £39
Actually they can and do. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Socialism ensures that the sick are never turned away. Its what Jesus would have wanted.

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

You failed.

No I didnt. You claimed that our Doctors are slaves to the system. i have shown you that they work for the NHS through choice.
In light of this you should withdraw your ill judged comments.

Yes you did and massively

You ignore that under your failed and inferior system people are forced to help others.

So where are our Doctors slaves ? Answer the question please.

 

[Soupnazi630]

More shoving words in people's mouths Tommy. If you want to know why your posts are so reviled on these boards, that's why. The tactic is beyond juvenile, it's hostile. The "I'm glad", followed by stating something that you KNOW the poster doesn't mean, is nasty. Stop it.

Socialism is not only not Christian, it is patently anti-Christian. Nothing in the Bible ever said to pawn off your charity on the government. That's a fail.

But you have already accepted that Jesus would not have turned away this sick child. Neither would the NHS. They are on the same page.

Jesus is the Son of God, Tommy. His resources are limitless. He never "runs out". If any adult would have brought this child to Jesus, Jesus--the Judge of all mankind--would have been able to ascertain whether the human was on the up and up. To perfectly judge this.

Jesus is not the NHS. The NHS is not Jesus.

Everyone---above is the very problem with Leftists. They really, honestly think Utopia can happen and Big Daddy Government is "on the same page" as Jesus.

God. Help. Us.

I never claimed that the NHS was Jesus. You build a straw man.

But helping those in need is a basic Christian tenet and that is what the NHS does. The Good Samaritan never asked for a policy number.

The Good Samaritan helped the man directly. He did not send money to some far away city via this bureaucracy and that bureaucracy and give the Samaritan some kind of NHS card and say, here, get yourself to this clinic. Charity is supposed to be more direct than that.

The NHS is not a charity and nor is it free. But,like the Good Samaritan, it does help people directly, as Jesus would have wanted.

These are the principles of the NHS -

• that it meet the needs of everyone
• that it be free at the point of delivery
• that it be based on clinical need, not ability to pay

It is a lot closer to Christian principles than a for profit clinic that turns away sick children. The founder of the NHS, Nye Bevan, was the son of a Baptist father and a Methodist mother. He was totally in tune with hat was the moral and ethical thing to do.

It is not based on any Christian principles

That has been demonstrated and proven

Btw if your links concerning private doctors are true it means doctors CAN turn away sick kids, correct ?

 

[Soupnazi630]

You....just posted the same thing again after being totally refuted.

WOW

Yes, he claimed not to have seen it. Now I have addressed that gap in his knowledge.

You failed.

No I didnt. You claimed that our Doctors are slaves to the system. i have shown you that they work for the NHS through choice.
In light of this you should withdraw your ill judged comments.

Yes you did and massively

You ignore that under your failed and inferior system people are forced to help others.

So where are our Doctors slaves ? Answer the question please.

Can they turn away sick kids? Because according to you they cannot.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Where are our Doctors slaves ?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Where are our Doctors slaves ?

Answer the question can any of them turn away sick kids?

 

[Correll]

this is the kind of action that warrants a pardon

An Indiana school superintendent was arrested for helping out a sick student by putting him on her health insurance

That is one stupid fucking kid.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Where are our Doctors slaves ?

Answer the question can any of them turn away sick kids?

I asked first.