Is a libertarian is essentially a slow conservative?

I consider myself a Libertarian because it seems like people that call themselves Conservatives compromise with the Liberals too often. That is a bad thing. To me most Conservatives will be too willing to go along with big government, as an example.

Conservatives do compromise which you have to do in a democracy. That's why they control the Supreme court while libertarians have not put one justice on.


we are,,,WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!!

The distinction is not relevant to the point he was making.



its totally relevant,,,and his comment about controlling the SCOTUS is a reason why, since in a democracy a party can control courts where as a republic they cant, they are bound by the constitution


Yes we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. You are a bright boy for knowing that. I award you 16 Internets for bringing that up. However, in internet discussions the terms Democracy and Republic are quite often used interchangeably and the distinction is mostly not relevant. I don't think it was relevant in the point he was making. If you think it is then god bless you.

I disagree with the EdwardB guy on other issues but it is not worth quibbling about this.
 
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And then began accelerating the deficit.

Deficit Donald.

He has a long way to go before he breaks the Jungle Monkey President's world record of $10 trillion in debt.

You stupid Moon Bats were absolute morons electing that Obama piece of shit. The worst President this country ever had.
I didn't elect Obama, dipshit.

And Deficit Donald has already shattered Obama's worst yearly spending record. Bigly.

And none of you dipshits has made a peep about it.

Libertarians/conservatives, my ass.
 
I consider myself a Libertarian because it seems like people that call themselves Conservatives compromise with the Liberals too often. That is a bad thing. To me most Conservatives will be too willing to go along with big government, as an example.

However, I don't support all Libertarian issues. For instance, I don't support legalize mind altering drug use and abortion. I think they have pretty much changed their minds but it use to be that Libertarians supported open borders providing nobody could get any government welfare once they got here. I have never supported open borders with any qualifications.
The biggest problem with libs and cons is they advocate for a bloated war machine and lots of foreign wars. Rs and Ds are this way too.


I really don't see much distinction between the R and the Ds.

The Democrats preach destructive out of control bloated big government and when they are elected they usually deliver on that vile socialist shithole agenda.

The Republicans usually run on a platform of fiscally responsible Conservative government but when elected usually deliver 90-95% of the destruction we would have got had the Democrats won.
 
...the Jungle Monkey President's...
This shit right here is exactly what the people who claim to be conservatives or libertarians need to clean up.

Clean your own house first, people, before telling the Democrats what they are doing wrong.

Do you really want to claim these bigoted LBJ Democrats as your own?
 
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as determined by the Supreme Court

Bull pucky, Jones.

Judicial review does not exist in Article III. Anywhere.

Go look. We'll wait.


clayton you still pushing that case law BS???

go home prog we dont want your kind here

It's always amusing when a wag who's been here all of two days starts using the word "we". :rofl:

Let alone the anachronistic handle, let alone his lack of a shift key....


yeah but I've been on this planet for 53 yrs,,,,sorry if my grammar or punctuation offends you,,,try blaming dems and repubes for my education for I are a product of that

And now three commas in a row. Somewhere Gertrude Stein is screaming.

Oh sorry --- that's "gertrude stein" in your language.

And nice touch, trying to pin your education on others as a crutch. I take care of my own but maybe that's just me.
 
A lot of people have complained about Trump signing the budget, and the spending. But he hasn't come close to running up the total debt Obama did. Now you are just being misleading.
 
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, as determined by the Supreme Court

Bull pucky, Jones.

Judicial review does not exist in Article III. Anywhere.

Go look. We'll wait.


clayton you still pushing that case law BS???

go home prog we dont want your kind here

It's always amusing when a wag who's been here all of two days starts using the word "we". :rofl:

Let alone the anachronistic handle, let alone his lack of a shift key....


yeah but I've been on this planet for 53 yrs,,,,sorry if my grammar or punctuation offends you,,,try blaming dems and repubes for my education for I are a product of that

And now three commas in a row. Somewhere Gertrude Stein is screaming.

Oh sorry --- that's "gertrude stein" in your language.


youre maturates showing

you have yet to discuss the topic
 
A lot of people have complained about Trump signing the budget, and the spending. But he hasn't come close to running up the total debt Obama did. Now you are just being misleading.


so spending 5 trillion instead of 8 trillion dollars of other peoples money is better HOW???
 
...the Jungle Monkey President's...
This shit right here is exactly what the people who claim to be conservatives or libertarians need to clean up. Clean your own house first, people, before telling the Democrats what they are doing wrong.
I assume you're not holding your breath.
.
:D

I'm not holding my breath, but I have been holding my vote. I was a straight ticket Republican voter until 2004. I stopped voting on the federal level in 2006 because the party has been hijacked by these bigots as well as hypocrites, retards, and psychopaths.
 
...the Jungle Monkey President's...
This shit right here is exactly what the people who claim to be conservatives or libertarians need to clean up. Clean your own house first, people, before telling the Democrats what they are doing wrong.
I assume you're not holding your breath.
.
:D

I'm not holding my breath, but I have been holding my vote. I was a straight ticket Republican voter until 2004. I stopped voting on the federal level in 2006 because the party has been hijacked by these assholes.
Ironically, I'm in the same fix on the other side.

This is all a bad, bad joke.
.
 
Bull pucky, Jones.

Judicial review does not exist in Article III. Anywhere.

Go look. We'll wait.


clayton you still pushing that case law BS???

go home prog we dont want your kind here

It's always amusing when a wag who's been here all of two days starts using the word "we". :rofl:

Let alone the anachronistic handle, let alone his lack of a shift key....


yeah but I've been on this planet for 53 yrs,,,,sorry if my grammar or punctuation offends you,,,try blaming dems and repubes for my education for I are a product of that

And now three commas in a row. Somewhere Gertrude Stein is screaming.

Oh sorry --- that's "gertrude stein" in your language.


youre maturates showing

you have yet to discuss the topic

Hey, you have yet to post a complete sentence. :dunno:
 
I consider myself a Libertarian because it seems like people that call themselves Conservatives compromise with the Liberals too often. That is a bad thing. To me most Conservatives will be too willing to go along with big government, as an example.

However, I don't support all Libertarian issues. For instance, I don't support legalize mind altering drug use and abortion. I think they have pretty much changed their minds but it use to be that Libertarians supported open borders providing nobody could get any government welfare once they got here. I have never supported open borders with any qualifications.
The biggest problem with libs and cons is they advocate for a bloated war machine and lots of foreign wars. Rs and Ds are this way too.


I really don't see much distinction between the R and the Ds.

The Democrats preach destructive out of control bloated big government and when they are elected they usually deliver on that vile socialist shithole agenda.

The Republicans usually run on a platform of fiscally responsible Conservative government but when elected usually deliver 90-95% of the destruction we would have got had the Democrats won.


FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SEES WHATS HAPPENING!!!!

at least the dems are honest about their desire, the GOP are lying mother fckers


thank you mr flash
 
A lot of people have complained about Trump signing the budget, and the spending. But he hasn't come close to running up the total debt Obama did. Now you are just being misleading.
For FY2018, Trump outspent Obama's worst year by half a trillion dollars.

For FY2019, Trump's 4.4 trilion budget exceeds Obama worst year by a full trillion dollars.

Obama + $1 trillion = Trump

Trump had DOUBLED the deficit he inherited. The deficit was going DOWN until the GOP got control of Congress back. Then they blew it back the fuck up.


And not even a single peep out of these alleged conservatives/libertarians about it.

"yeahbutobama!"
 
A lot of people have complained about Trump signing the budget, and the spending. But he hasn't come close to running up the total debt Obama did. Now you are just being misleading.


A Moon Bat like this g500 clown being misleading???? Say it ain't so!

Trump said he reluctantly signed the deficit budgets so that he could properly fund the military after the destruction done by the Jungle Monkey President.

He said he wasn't going to do that again. Lets hope he keeps his word.
 
I consider myself a Libertarian because it seems like people that call themselves Conservatives compromise with the Liberals too often. That is a bad thing. To me most Conservatives will be too willing to go along with big government, as an example.

Conservatives do compromise which you have to do in a democracy. That's why they control the Supreme court while libertarians have not put one justice on.


we are,,,WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!!

The distinction is not relevant to the point he was making.



its totally relevant,,,and his comment about controlling the SCOTUS is a reason why, since in a democracy a party can control courts where as a republic they cant, they are bound by the constitution


Yes we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. You are a bright boy for knowing that. I award you 16 Internets for bringing that up. However, in internet discussions the terms Democracy and Republic are quite often used interchangeably and the distinction is mostly not relevant. I don't think it was relevant in the point he was making. If you think it is then god bless you.

I disagree with the EdwardB guy on other issues but it is not worth quibbling about this.


when you are talking about controlling courts I think a reminder is in order to understand the real problems so we can have a logical response/action to correct it
 
I'm not buying this horseshit from people claiming to be conservatives or libertarians. Not while they are fucking dead silent about Trump's record spending, and certainly not while they tolerate, coddle, and feed the fucking racist motherfuckers in their ranks.
 
clayton you still pushing that case law BS???

go home prog we dont want your kind here

It's always amusing when a wag who's been here all of two days starts using the word "we". :rofl:

Let alone the anachronistic handle, let alone his lack of a shift key....


yeah but I've been on this planet for 53 yrs,,,,sorry if my grammar or punctuation offends you,,,try blaming dems and repubes for my education for I are a product of that

And now three commas in a row. Somewhere Gertrude Stein is screaming.

Oh sorry --- that's "gertrude stein" in your language.


youre maturates showing

you have yet to discuss the topic

Hey, you have yet to post a complete sentence. :dunno:
Im not writing a book,,,try to keep up would ya
 
A lot of people have complained about Trump signing the budget, and the spending. But he hasn't come close to running up the total debt Obama did. Now you are just being misleading.


A Moon Bat like this g500 clown being misleading???? Say it ain't so!

Trump said he reluctantly signed the deficit budgets so that he could properly fund the military after the destruction done by the Jungle Monkey President.

He said he wasn't going to do that again. Lets hope he keeps his word.


TRUMP KEEP HIS WORD???

dont make me laugh
 
No one.

No one in the history of the universe. That's 14 billion years. 6,000 if you are a fundamentalist.

No one has ever spent in a single year the amount of other people's money that Trump has.

And for the next year, he's going to top his own record.

And what do we hear from the alleged libertarians and conservatives?

Crickets!

"b-b-b-b-b-but Obamaaaaa! :206:"


I honestly don't know how they stand the stench of their own hypocrisy.
 

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