Is Home-Schooling a Fundamental Right?

[Foxfyre]

Okay, in defense of bakers and other chefs, both professional and home cooks, we all DO use fractions. When the recipe calls for 1/3 cup of butter or 3/4 cup milk, those are fractions. But in defense of those who say bakers don't use fractions, such measurements are already marked on measuring containers and one would not have to understand fractions to find the markings on those containers.

 

[Samson]

Okay, in defense of bakers and other chefs, both professional and home cooks, we all DO use fractions. When the recipe calls for 1/3 cup of butter or 3/4 cup milk, those are fractions. But in defense of those who say bakers don't use fractions, such measurements are already marked on measuring containers and one would not have to understand fractions to find the markings on those containers.

Lets put what we're talking about in context.



If a pizza is cut into 8 pieces, and I take a slice, I did not "use fractions."

 

[Foxfyre]

Okay, in defense of bakers and other chefs, both professional and home cooks, we all DO use fractions. When the recipe calls for 1/3 cup of butter or 3/4 cup milk, those are fractions. But in defense of those who say bakers don't use fractions, such measurements are already marked on measuring containers and one would not have to understand fractions to find the markings on those containers.

Lets put what we're talking about in context.



If a pizza is cut into 8 pieces, and I take a slice, I did not "use fractions."

Well, actually yes you did. You just didn't have to know that was what you were using.

 

[Luissa]

Um.....adding fractions on the test, or in training doesn't make the practice any less useless; it only illustrates how completely archaic the test and the training is.

I had to take the test because we use them every day. That was the point.
Fuck, you and QW must live in box. Lol

Wow, you get paid to double cookie recipies or count 5 out of 12 people?

Hey I suppose someone out there also uses a buggy whip, but sorry to break it to you sweetie; horse carts not the latest transportation.

No, I pass medication. We use fractions quite a bit.
So do the pharmacists who fill the medication.

 

[Votto]

Just out of curiosity, where is the Constitutional right of the state to force feed our children an education?

 

[clevergirl]

every child has a right to learn about the world.

Its child abuse to teach them lies

How is a home school education "child abuse" and how does it prevent them from "learning about the world"?

 

[clevergirl]

Some people speak out their butts because they were uneducated in our public schools.

a Google of success stories.

https://www.google.com/search?q=suc...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

[Samson]

I had to take the test because we use them every day. That was the point.
Fuck, you and QW must live in box. Lol

Wow, you get paid to double cookie recipies or count 5 out of 12 people?

Hey I suppose someone out there also uses a buggy whip, but sorry to break it to you sweetie; horse carts not the latest transportation.

No, I pass medication. We use fractions quite a bit.
So do the pharmacists who fill the medication.

Fractions For Pharmacy Techs

These are all ways to write one-half. But 1/2 is the simplest form of this answer

Fractions For Pharmacy Techs

 

[clevergirl]

These poor unworldly abused people...


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Will Smith - singer, actor

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· Robert Frost - Pulitzer Prize-winning poet

· Christopher Klicka - attorney and Senior Counsel of Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA)

· Len Munsil - attorney and President of The Center for Arizona Policy (CAP)

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· Mike Smith - lawyer and co-founder of Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA)

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[JakeStarkey]

And millions upon millions more who were just as or more important who were public schooled.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Tell that to the baker, the accountant, statisticians, construction, architects, carpet layers, granite table top installers.

Shut the fuck up.

Bakers, carpenters, and architects in Europe do not use fractions, they have a nice easy metric system that is so simple even you can use it. As for accountants and and statisticians, I have never met any that ever use fractions for anything.

You have never met statistician that uses fractions? Do you understand what fractions are?

Do you understand that this all started because I challenged the idea that every teacher in school tells the kids who are learning about least common denominators that they will need it in life? No one uses those except carpenters who ignore the metric system. Every day math is in decimals, no one needs to know how to add fractions, the only reason we teach it is because that is what they taught when grandad was in school.

 

[Samson]

Wow,


All homeschool parents knew what the fuck they were doing and never waited until the kid was 13, then sent them to public school where they were remediated at public expense.

Amazing!

 

[clevergirl]

And millions upon millions more who were just as or more important who were public schooled.

Not millions upon millions- total exaggeration. But I digress, the point IS that home educated kids are not lacking, and indeed, are often better able to reason and integrate socially and academically into mainstream. This is due to most home educators choosing Classical curriculum that includes Latin as well as logic courses- and their central socializing being with all age groups making them much more social and communicative.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Okay, in defense of bakers and other chefs, both professional and home cooks, we all DO use fractions. When the recipe calls for 1/3 cup of butter or 3/4 cup milk, those are fractions. But in defense of those who say bakers don't use fractions, such measurements are already marked on measuring containers and one would not have to understand fractions to find the markings on those containers.

I know recipes call for fractions, but they can be converted to non fracional numbers, and no one has to add fractions different denominators.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And millions upon millions more who were just as or more important who were public schooled.

Not millions upon millions- total exaggeration. But I digress, the point IS that home educated kids are not lacking, and indeed, are often better able to reason and integrate socially and academically into mainstream. This is due to most home educators choosing Classical curriculum that includes Latin as well as logic courses- and their central socializing being with all age groups making them much more social and communicative.

Not all, not even a little bit. No, they "are [not] better able to reason and integrate socially and academically into the mainstream." Many of them have trouble socializing and many of them have trouble integrating evidence that counters what they learned at home.

To say otherwise merely reveals a no-information home educator.

 

[Samson]

Bakers, carpenters, and architects in Europe do not use fractions, they have a nice easy metric system that is so simple even you can use it. As for accountants and and statisticians, I have never met any that ever use fractions for anything.

You have never met statistician that uses fractions? Do you understand what fractions are?

Do you understand that this all started because I challenged the idea that every teacher in school tells the kids who are learning about least common denominators that they will need it in life? No one uses those schools except carpenters who ignore the metric system. Every day math is in decimals, no one needs to know how to add fractions, the only reason we teach it is because that is what they taught when grandad was in school.

Just out of curiousity I looked up how they use fractions as pharmacy technicians:

Not every dosage conversion will work out easily with whole numbers, so it's good to be comfortable working with fractions and decimals.

To convert between the two forms, simply use a calculator to divide the top number by the bottom number. Five-eighths for example, you would enter 5 divided by 8. This returns .625, which is the correct decimal form for five-eighths

So when Louissa says she "works with fractions" essentially she's converting them to decimals.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Just out of curiosity, where is the Constitutional right of the state to force feed our children an education?

The government doesn't care about the Constitution, all they care about is money. If your kid doesn't go to schoolthey don't get the money.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Wow, you get paid to double cookie recipies or count 5 out of 12 people?

Hey I suppose someone out there also uses a buggy whip, but sorry to break it to you sweetie; horse carts not the latest transportation.

No, I pass medication. We use fractions quite a bit.
So do the pharmacists who fill the medication.

Fractions For Pharmacy Techs

These are all ways to write one-half. But 1/2 is the simplest form of this answer

Fractions For Pharmacy Techs

I couldn't read that, I was laughing too hard.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You have never met statistician that uses fractions? Do you understand what fractions are?

Do you understand that this all started because I challenged the idea that every teacher in school tells the kids who are learning about least common denominators that they will need it in life? No one uses those schools except carpenters who ignore the metric system. Every day math is in decimals, no one needs to know how to add fractions, the only reason we teach it is because that is what they taught when grandad was in school.

Just out of curiousity I looked up how they use fractions as pharmacy technicians:

Not every dosage conversion will work out easily with whole numbers, so it's good to be comfortable working with fractions and decimals.

To convert between the two forms, simply use a calculator to divide the top number by the bottom number. Five-eighths for example, you would enter 5 divided by 8. This returns .625, which is the correct decimal form for five-eighths

So when Louissa says she "works with fractions" essentially she's converting them to decimals.

Which is what I implied way back before this became a major debate. I used to tutor math to adults studying for their GED, and everyone loved it when I told them they would never need fractions again, all they have to do is get through the stupid test.

 

[PaulS1950]

Try cutting a recipe into a third so you don't have to feed a meal for twenty to you and your wife. Or double a recipe to make four loaves of bread instead of two without using fractions.