Israel hastens the return of hostages by killing the chief negotiator of Hamas

[rylah]

Well I do hope it improves to a level greater than that of your Middle Eastern history, especially the history of the European Jewish colonization of Palestine and the seeds of militant Zionism being found in Nazism, blood and soil and all that stuff.

I love the Harvards with a degree on the history of street slogans,
preaching about the Middle Eastern history, and it always starts
not a day before the Zionist victory over Arab imperialism:

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[Sherlock Holmes]

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

 

[Man With A Plan]

Erm, that's what they are doing, 67% of all the buildings are damaged/destroyed. 150,000 structures. Thousands and thousands of people are homeless. The total debris in Gaza is about 41 million tons, that's up from 23 million tons in January.

This is 14 times more debris than all previous attacks on Gaza since 2008, combined. Its estimated that 250 lbs of debris is generated for every square meter.

Fuck off man, part of the reason you are unaware of reality is because the IDF have killed all the journalists.

Like the "journalist" that was holding one of the hostages in his apartment?

 

[Grau]

It’s funny how you antisemites expose yourselves, and then upset when you’re called out for who you are.

Whose upset?

You call everyone who exposes your falsehoods an "anti Semite" because:

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" Socrates

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Like the "journalist" that was holding one of the hostages in his apartment?

How many journalists have been killed in Gaza since Oct 7th?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The source for this data is the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Do you know what journalists do? they report stuff like this:



Just as the German public were largely kept in the dark about the Nazi extermination campaign, todays Israelis are for the most part blissfully unaware and sadly that's through choice rather than an absence of news.

 

[rylah]

How many journalists have been killed in Gaza since Oct 7th?

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The source for this data is the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Really desperate at trolling.

 

[rylah]

What law protects "journalists" holding hostages?

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[Shusha]

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The source for this data is the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Journalists do not retain the protected status of non-combatants (civilians) if they participate in the hostilities.

 

[gipper]

Hi. Still Canadian.

Do you mean total number of Gazan combatant deaths since October 7? There is no way to know with any certainty. Best guess, with the information I have at my disposal? 20,000+ easily. Probably higher.

You mean 200,000 civilians.

 

[gipper]

Hi. Still Canadian.

Do you mean total number of Gazan combatant deaths since October 7? There is no way to know with any certainty. Best guess, with the information I have at my disposal? 20,000+ easily. Probably higher.

You’re Canadian yet your allegiance is to Israel. You might be considered a traitor.

 

[Shusha]

You’re Canadian yet your allegiance is to Israel. You might be considered a traitor.

Canada and Israel are not in conflict.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Not a day goes by when we don’t see videos of tunnels built by Palestinian subhuman animals that are underneath schools, hospitals and mosques, which are confirmed by the world and even the anti Israel UN. These are the same animals that send their suicides to blow themselves up and be martyrs. And here you are denying all of it.

There are Hamas tunnels, of course, I don't deny that, but they're not under Al Shifa Hospital or any other hospital bombed by the Israelis. There's zero evidence for that, other than some Israeli propaganda videos. The "animals" are the Israelis with their genocidal bombing campaign of Gaza. Those are the actual wild savages.

 

[TruthNotBS]

My point would be for you to look at the legal and factual claims from BOTH sides, and not just the one. And before you ask, yes, I am familiar with the site you posted and have been reading it for decades.

I have studied both sides, along with their appeals to international law.

 

[Shusha]

I have studied both sides, along with their appeals to international law.

Cool.

 

[TruthNotBS]

My point would be for you to look at the legal and factual claims from BOTH sides, and not just the one. And before you ask, yes, I am familiar with the site you posted and have been reading it for decades.

In their About page:

"Regavim’s activities are directed toward accomplishing one mission: Restoring the Zionist vision to its primary role in the Israeli policy process. As we see it, the Zionist vision is first and foremost an unapologetic Jewish vision, but at the same time it is a vision grounded in humanist values, justice, and morality – values expressed in strict adherence to high ethical standards and clean government."

Source: About Us - Regavim

How does the above, further or advance your case for the land becoming Judaized, at the expense of the non-Jews who have been living there for centuries? You turn the land Jewish and what happens to the Christians and Muslims? Do they become second-class citizens in your Jewocracy?

Legal and Institutional Discrimination

1. Nation-State Law (2018): This law enshrines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, stating that only Jews have the right to national self-determination. This effectively marginalizes non-Jewish citizens and makes Arabic a language with "special status" rather than an official language, reducing its prominence in public life (Human Rights Watch, Council on Foreign Relations).
2. Discriminatory Land Policies: Israeli land policies significantly disadvantage Arab citizens by restricting their access to land and housing. These policies have confined Arab towns to overcrowded areas while enabling neighboring Jewish towns to flourish. The Israeli government has historically prioritized the development of Jewish communities and often denies Arab citizens' requests to expand or establish new towns (Human Rights Watch, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace).
3. Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law (2003): This law imposes severe restrictions on the ability of Palestinian citizens of Israel to obtain residency or citizenship for their spouses from the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and several other countries, affecting their right to family unification (Human Rights Watch).

Socioeconomic Disparities​

1. Education and Funding: Arab-majority schools receive significantly less funding than Jewish-majority schools, resulting in poorer facilities and resources. This funding disparity contributes to lower educational outcomes and reduced employment prospects for Arab citizens (Council on Foreign Relations, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).
2. Employment Discrimination: Arab citizens face systemic discrimination in the labor market. They are underrepresented in high-paying and government jobs, and face discriminatory practices in hiring and promotion, exacerbating economic disparities between Jewish and Arab citizens (Human Rights Watch, Council on Foreign Relations).
3. Housing and Infrastructure: Arab communities often live in overcrowded conditions due to discriminatory housing policies. Many Arab towns lack basic infrastructure and services, further entrenching socioeconomic disparities. For example, in the Negev/Naqab region, tens of thousands of Palestinian Bedouins live in "unrecognized" villages without access to essential services (Human Rights Watch, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

Political and Civic Representation​

1. Political Participation: Although Arab citizens have the right to vote and some representation in the Knesset, they face significant obstacles in political participation. Arab political parties often encounter attempts to disqualify them, and no Arab party has been part of a governing coalition. This limits their political influence and ability to effect change (Council on Foreign Relations, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

Police and Judicial Disparities​

1. Law Enforcement and Judicial Inequality: Arab citizens often experience over-policing in their communities, while also facing neglect in protection from crime and violence. Additionally, the judicial system exhibits biases that result in harsher sentences for Arab citizens compared to Jewish citizens for similar offenses (Human Rights Watch, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace).

What to Know About the Arab Citizens of Israel

Arabs represent one-fifth of Israel’s population. Systemic discrimination, outbreaks of communal violence, and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue to strain their ties with Israel’s Jew…

www.cfr.org

Israel: Budget Discriminates Against Arab Citizens

www.hrw.org

Israel: New Laws Marginalize Palestinian Arab Citizens

www.hrw.org

 

[gipper]

Canada and Israel are not in conflict.

That is not the definition of traitor.

 

[Shusha]

In their About page:

"Regavim’s activities are directed toward accomplishing one mission: Restoring the Zionist vision to its primary role in the Israeli policy process. As we see it, the Zionist vision is first and foremost an unapologetic Jewish vision, but at the same time it is a vision grounded in humanist values, justice, and morality – values expressed in strict adherence to high ethical standards and clean government."

Source: About Us - Regavim

How does the above, further or advance your case for the land becoming Judaized, at the expense of the non-Jews who have been living there for centuries? You turn the land Jewish and what happens to the Christians and Muslims? Do they become second-class citizens in your Jewocracy?

Legal and Institutional Discrimination

1. Nation-State Law (2018): This law enshrines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, stating that only Jews have the right to national self-determination. This effectively marginalizes non-Jewish citizens and makes Arabic a language with "special status" rather than an official language, reducing its prominence in public life (Human Rights Watch, Council on Foreign Relations).
2. Discriminatory Land Policies: Israeli land policies significantly disadvantage Arab citizens by restricting their access to land and housing. These policies have confined Arab towns to overcrowded areas while enabling neighboring Jewish towns to flourish. The Israeli government has historically prioritized the development of Jewish communities and often denies Arab citizens' requests to expand or establish new towns (Human Rights Watch, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace).
3. Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law (2003): This law imposes severe restrictions on the ability of Palestinian citizens of Israel to obtain residency or citizenship for their spouses from the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and several other countries, affecting their right to family unification (Human Rights Watch).

Socioeconomic Disparities​

1. Education and Funding: Arab-majority schools receive significantly less funding than Jewish-majority schools, resulting in poorer facilities and resources. This funding disparity contributes to lower educational outcomes and reduced employment prospects for Arab citizens (Council on Foreign Relations, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).
2. Employment Discrimination: Arab citizens face systemic discrimination in the labor market. They are underrepresented in high-paying and government jobs, and face discriminatory practices in hiring and promotion, exacerbating economic disparities between Jewish and Arab citizens (Human Rights Watch, Council on Foreign Relations).
3. Housing and Infrastructure: Arab communities often live in overcrowded conditions due to discriminatory housing policies. Many Arab towns lack basic infrastructure and services, further entrenching socioeconomic disparities. For example, in the Negev/Naqab region, tens of thousands of Palestinian Bedouins live in "unrecognized" villages without access to essential services (Human Rights Watch, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

Political and Civic Representation​

1. Political Participation: Although Arab citizens have the right to vote and some representation in the Knesset, they face significant obstacles in political participation. Arab political parties often encounter attempts to disqualify them, and no Arab party has been part of a governing coalition. This limits their political influence and ability to effect change (Council on Foreign Relations, Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

Police and Judicial Disparities​

1. Law Enforcement and Judicial Inequality: Arab citizens often experience over-policing in their communities, while also facing neglect in protection from crime and violence. Additionally, the judicial system exhibits biases that result in harsher sentences for Arab citizens compared to Jewish citizens for similar offenses (Human Rights Watch, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace).

What to Know About the Arab Citizens of Israel

Arabs represent one-fifth of Israel’s population. Systemic discrimination, outbreaks of communal violence, and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue to strain their ties with Israel’s Jew…

www.cfr.org

Israel: Budget Discriminates Against Arab Citizens

www.hrw.org

Israel: New Laws Marginalize Palestinian Arab Citizens

www.hrw.org

It is far beyond the scope of this thread (which is already much derailed) to address all of the (unsubstantiated) claims you posted here. I can only address the generalities posted in your questions:

How does the above, further or advance your case for the land becoming Judaized, at the expense of the non-Jews who have been living there for centuries? You turn the land Jewish and what happens to the Christians and Muslims? Do they become second-class citizens in your Jewocracy?

I'd answer in the same way Regavim does. Jewish sovereignty and self-determination grounded in humanist values, justice, morality, and the highest ethical standards. Discrimination is a vile reality in every nation, with some performing much better than Israel, and many far, far, far worse. Israel, I would hope and expect, shall continue to strive for continual improvement, as all nations should.

I would be happy to discuss individual specific issues in depth. Perhaps, we could also discuss the discrimination of Jews in Palestinian-controlled territories. Oh, wait. First, we would have to get past that very first hurdle of even permitting Jews to live in Palestinian-controlled territories, or even to visit them without being brutally murdered.

 

[Shusha]

TruthNotBS

The more important point about bringing up Regavim is that no one talks about how Palestinians are exploiting lawfare and stealing land in Area C, trying to change the facts on the ground and the character of the territory.