It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[AsherN]

Nature (God) does define morality, because bad consequences follow from immorality. Good consequence, from morality. They are completely objective.

Wrong, Skippy. Mostly, a culture defines morality for that culture at a point in time. What is moral changes. Polygamy was moral, even for your perfect Jesus. It no longer is.

 

[Mashmont]

It is your opinion of what happens and it is wrong

You jump off a building, you fall to the ground. It doesn't matter if you believe in gravity or not. Immorality is the same way, except that the consequences are not always apparent or immediate. Just the same, it doesn't matter if you believe in them or not; they're still there.

 

[AsherN]

I don't know the teachings of Judaism, but how can they be perfect if Jesus' teachings are perfect and they differ from Jesus' teachings?

Because Jesus' teachings are not perfect.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Wrong, Skippy. Mostly, a culture defines morality for that culture at a point in time. What is moral changes. Polygamy was moral, even for your perfect Jesus. It no longer is.

Slavery was moral in the time of jesus and he gave explicit directions on how to treat slaves

 

[Mashmont]

Wrong, Skippy. Mostly, a culture defines morality for that culture at a point in time. What is moral changes. Polygamy was moral, even for your perfect Jesus. It no longer is.

Polygamy was never moral.

 

[AsherN]

You jump off a building, you fall to the ground. It doesn't matter if you believe in gravity or not. Immorality is the same way, except that the consequences are not always apparent or immediate. Just the same, it doesn't matter if you believe in them or not; they're still there.

Nope, because morality is not a immutable law of physics. It is an ever evolving concept.

 

[Vegasgiants]

You jump off a building, you fall to the ground. It doesn't matter if you believe in gravity or not. Immorality is the same way, except that the consequences are not always apparent or immediate. Just the same, it doesn't matter if you believe in them or not; they're still there.

And it is opinion which action is immoral and which is not

 

[Vegasgiants]

Polygamy was never moral.

Of course it was

 

[Mashmont]

Slavery was moral in the time of jesus and he gave explicit directions on how to treat slaves

Slavery at that time was different from the colonial slavery we know today. Slavery has had many meanings. Leftwingers call employment at Walmart "slavery".

 

[AsherN]

Polygamy was never moral.

I would refer you to the Torah. All the Patriarch were polygamist. Jacob even had 2 unmarried concubines.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Slavery at that time was different from the colonial slavery we know today. Slavery has had many meanings. Leftwingers call employment at Walmart "slavery".

I see ......you mean the good concept of slavery. Lol

 

[Mashmont]

And it is opinion which action is immoral and which is not

No, it's not. The ones that have destructive consequences are immoral.

 

[Vegasgiants]

No, it's not. The ones that have destructive consequences are immoral.

In your opinion


Keep expressing an opinion


I will keep pointing it out

 

[Mashmont]

I see ......you mean the good concept of slavery. Lol

Explain what you mean.

 

[Mashmont]

In your opinion


Keep expressing an opinion


I will keep pointing it out

Is it an opinion that when you jump off a building, you fall toward the ground?

 

[AsherN]

No, it's not. The ones that have destructive consequences are immoral

The definition of "destructive consequences" is subjective.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Explain what you mean.

There is no good concept of slavery.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Is it an opinion that when you jump off a building, you fall toward the ground?

No that's gravity...not morals. Lol

 

[Mashmont]

I would refer you to the Torah. All the Patriarch were polygamist. Jacob even had 2 unmarried concubines.

And you think that's perfect?

 

[AsherN]

There is no good concept of slavery.

Torah tried to mitigate with rules on how to treat a slave, but slaves acquired by conquering anther nation were still slaves.